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On August 19 2013 01:48 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because people seem to pay zero attention to why people post what they do rather than what they do post which i think is not the right way to play mafia. Someone asks for a houselist, johnny posts a houselist. snb calls it scummy. I call it null. Then you say if it was town he would have known where vivax and gumshoe would have been, as if he wouldn't have known as scum. Here's the town reasoning to post the list: someone asked, so you contribute Here's the scum reasoning to post the list: someone asked and you might look like you're contributing UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME WHY IT'S #2, JUST STFU ABOUT IT Like, I'm so tired of this discussion holy fuck. I dunno how you can be so logically inept yet still yell at everyone else but "not playing the right way"
rayn his point is that because Johnny knew Vivax is scum, and johnny knew that Vivax was in Stark because it was in the scum QT. Johnny was afraid to put Vivax in house Stark in his list because he could get flak for it if it wasn't said in the thread. But it was said in the thread, and a town Johnny would have seen it.
Something in those lines.
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So about Risen:
1) Risen his opening post. Xatalos, DI, Oats, Clarity and Grack were scum.
It was instantly seen as so bad that Risen gained townpoints. But even though everybody saw that it was bad Risen went on bout it for 3 days straight. Only to go soft after Vivax after that.
2) Risen made a case vs Sharrant, went on about it for 2 days while also softpushing Vivax as second candidate.
3) Risen flipflopped on everybody. Yelled rayn was 100% scum, he yelled that Xatalos scumslipped. Voted on rayn, Xatalos and StrongandBig.
4) Risen eventually voted on Vivax saying that it was a good lynch and that people were hardefending Vivax. He said the same thing when he was trying to get Sharrant lynched. However, Risen never followed up. Why? Maybe it didn't follow the scumplan or he didn't want to put himself in the spotlight?
5) Chrom said Sharrant gave Acro 2 choices to pick out and from this point Risen his case was suddenly null, even more Sharrant was suddenly the towniest fucker allive. I got flak for saying the case was still valid, and Chrom was Risen his best buddy for pointing out the mistake.
6) Risen shooting rayn is just trying to get the House for him alone. There is really no good reason to shoot rayn, unless you think he is scum, but then why give him the Lord position? I don't remember if he shot me the first time he was Lord, but I think he did. Like, seriously? Risen has shot me and rayn...
7) Last post from Risen is saying Onegu is scum that is now owning a House. ________________________________________________________
How many really townie things has Risen done? I can't recall any.
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Oh Risen is back. This might be fun!
Comments?
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Risen
So the best lynch for today would be Xatalos?
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Yes I am going over your points. Sec. Need to verify.
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On August 19 2013 02:33 Risen wrote:
1) 3 of those people haven't flipped, one was town. No one ever said why my targets were bad, it just was.
2) And then Vivax flipped red and Shar was wrong about a red check.
3) Rayn was a bad plan; Xata, SnB haven't flipped. Note how I still want Xata dead, though, and haven't made any real comments on SnB.
4) What? I've been pushing Vivax since d1 when he defended FT while trying to shift the wagon back to Onegu. I was the second of six votes on Vivax. I didn't jump on the wagon to kill him, I helped create it.
5) It was a bad time, I was really embarassed and ashamed for my play over the course of the day. You got flak because at the time you said it Chrom has completely unraveled my case and you didn't voice anything other than "yeah I support lynching Shar". That's not really giving a good reason, especially after the case gets debunked. Had you said this after it turned out Shar was giving a red check on a green target it might be worth something.
6) Seemed like a good idea at the time. In hindsight, probably not so much.
7) That's not what it says at all. It says the scum plan assuming Shar is scum is to get Onegu alone in the house so he can either a) control it as he's on the scum team or b) they can kill him as part of the three people are dead sweep tonight.
1) DI is close to confirmed town. Xatalos and Clarity like 75% and 90%. Why can't you recognize that this far in the game?
2) Are you saying Sharrant is also still scum? Because that means DI is scum. So what? Sharrant, DI, Xata and Clarity are scum???
3) ok ok. So SnB can also be scum? rayn was a bad plan? But 3 days later you shot him anyway?
4) You didn't fucking push Vivax at all. You made some comments on Vivax but you were pushing SHARRANT.
5) Not a reply worthy.
6) lol... Unless you are scum and you are just shooting townies.
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Xatalos, DI, Sharrant is your scumteam?
Because with Sharrant scum, DI is confirmed scum as well.
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Can somebody lynch Risen?
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On August 19 2013 02:47 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos, DI, Sharrant is your scumteam?
Because with Sharrant scum, DI is confirmed scum as well. Sharrant, DI, Acro is my scum team.
So DI just bussed Vivax like that? Reading the rules and pointing it out?
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On August 19 2013 02:51 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 02:50 Koshi wrote:On August 19 2013 02:47 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos, DI, Sharrant is your scumteam?
Because with Sharrant scum, DI is confirmed scum as well. Sharrant, DI, Acro is my scum team. So DI just bussed Vivax like that? Reading the rules and pointing it out? Vivax was already the lynch target when DI did this, right?
Maybe, but people were going to inspect his claim. DI just fucking hammered Vivax.
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On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.
How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours...
Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else?
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On August 19 2013 02:58 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast. How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours... Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else? I thought screaming out Shar was the clear lynch in caps was screaming to the thread to lynch somebody. It's not?
That was after I asked you about it...
I dnu about this game. But imho DI is not scum anymore... Xatalos as well. Wtf Risen?
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Ok I agree with it. That is actually a good scumplay.
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On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much.
So who is your scumteam?
Koshi, Grack and which other 2?
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On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5.
LooooooooL
Koshi: Made a case vs Risen
SnB: Made a case vs Johnny
Grack: Voting for Johnny
Rayn: Voting for Johnny
So it seems like scum controls the vote in Onegu his mind and decided to lynch his other scumtarget. Or scum is not controling the vote but Grack and SnB are bussing Johnny.
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On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win....
1) SnB needs Clarity dead (Clarity confirmed damage)
2) Grack needs Xatalos dead
3) Rayn needs Risen dead
4) Onegu
5) Baratheon can't be touched by Koshi
6) Acro / Sharrant /johnnywup (Sharrant was shot but Acro still full)
This doesn't make sense Onegu. Unless you are scum in that list and I am not. Because I can't get to House Baratheon and Acro+Sharrant can't be killed in Tyrell. Also Sharrant taking damage makes no sense because both Risen and Xatalos will not die.
So. Unless Onegu is scum, scum can't take the win.
I am going to go with the Risen theory and lynch Onegu!
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On August 19 2013 03:47 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:43 Koshi wrote:On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
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This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win.... 1) SnB needs Clarity dead (Clarity confirmed damage) 2) Grack needs Xatalos dead 3) Rayn needs Risen dead 4) Onegu 5) Baratheon can't be touched by Koshi 6) Acro / Sharrant /johnnywup (Sharrant was shot but Acro still full) This doesn't make sense Onegu. Unless you are scum in that list and I am not. Because I can't get to House Baratheon and Acro+Sharrant can't be killed in Tyrell. Also Sharrant taking damage makes no sense because both Risen and Xatalos will not die. So. Unless Onegu is scum, scum can't take the win. I am going to go with the Risen theory and lynch Onegu! Thats why I said if I was scum. But Im not. But when mocsta assholed out, I lost passion for this game. So go ahead and kill me. Btw s0L is confirmed town, dont lynch him.
Wait what?
1) People should stop crying about that Mocsta thing. Fuck him but the game goes on. Town got a bit of a advantage but he wasn't going to get lynched probably, only shot.
2) Out of nowhere martyr?
3) Thx for giving a townread towards a player we will never lynch.
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On August 19 2013 03:51 Onegu wrote:
When I flip town and there if the game isnt over/in scum hands look how fast koshi jumped on the lynch onegu train and off shar.
You mean off Johnnywup/Risen. DI is town for me = Shar is town for me.
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GG all. I have no problem sharing the scum QT. Dnu how the other scummers feel but we were friendly iirc 
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