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On August 18 2013 04:47 Dandel Ion wrote:to answer this question, because I couldn't find a coherent argument in it's favor, I've googled "risen logic" and extracted the visual representation of it. ![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZEs_gcamX9w/T5lvtwcONDI/AAAAAAAAU3k/z4K65O-TqzY/s400/resurrectiondionysiou.jpg) I am unsure what this means.
that just looks like a medieval triptych.
When i google image search "risen logic" this is the third result (honestly). humorously, the link goes to the previous game of thrones mafia game.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/il7Yt.jpg)
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On August 18 2013 04:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
oh we 100% can't kill johnny
why are we not lynching him then
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On August 18 2013 05:26 johnnywup wrote:
How did gumshoe and kush force town to shoot them? Is that what you're going to say about me after I flip?
And good, I want rayn dead.
not if you flip scum. which i believe you will, and no one but you seems to disagree. so why is it so hard to make you dead?
seriously guys we need to be killing our top scum reads, as fast as possible. none of this shitty letting scum stick around, use their possible roles, and vote for shitty candidates. we should be killing johnnywup.
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On August 18 2013 19:10 Clarity_nl wrote:I guess I'm up for lynching johnny but it's for the wrong reasons. I have no idea if he's scum or town, he's completely null and useless. Don't want him around at lylo. I kinda wanna lynch grack just because of this post Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Shits going down. I'm content to lynch Johnnywup since we won't even get him in lord shots tonight and he has the best chance of anyone to flip scum.
I did use my pm's, I talked a whole bunch with Mocsta to try to get a better read on him because I wasn't confident he would flip scum when everybody else was throwing him to the wolves. I also talked a bit to Rayn and he seemed to be genuinely convinced Mocsta was scum so I don't think he is the best lynch for today,
##Vote: Johnnywup I dunno how johnny has "the best chance of flipping scum" but that's a silly statement that means nothing. I can't tell if this post is scum just consolidating on a townie without much thought, or a bus because johnny is a lost cause, however I do know that a townie does not post this. Apparently he was talking to mocsta in pms, when everyone else wanted to kill him, because he wasn't confident in the lynch. Was anyone aware of this? I sure as hell wasn't. I don't understand why, as a townie, you would INSTEAD of saying in the thread "hey guys, I'm not too confident in this lynch/shot" you go talk to the guy who is up for getting lynched/shot?? Clearly you didn't show the fact that you doubt he's scum with him, because he fucking gave up on the game. This is a classic scumpost. Consolidate without reasons. Try to get towncred by opposing a lynch/shot on a townie (after his flip, might I add) and give out a random townread (on rayn)
Do you disagree with my case on jwup? I think the point about the difference in the way he defended himself in this game versus nwm is good, plus the rest of it. If you disagree I would like to hear why
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Acro why. Answer my case/ explain yourself.
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Once again, I lead the votes but don't get lynched! SUCCESS!
Yeah, whatever. Mocsta should get a strong ban. "Getting modkilled so town doesn't mislynch" is exactly defined as cheating in the OP. it doesn't matter that he claims to not have known about it, it's in the op of literally every game and is a core part of the rules.
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I actually agree with kush. The game should take an hour to play per day, no longer. If you're demanding people spend more than 1 hour of full, attentive play, you're gonna kill your game anyway by limiting the player pool.
We need more post count limit games.
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No, I don't. When I'm catching up (like after I was gone for the weekend in this game) I'm perfectly willing to spend more than an blue reading and posting about the game to make it up.
But if it's taking people more than an hour on a regular day just to stay current, then you have a problem.
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On August 21 2013 23:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm just baffled that kush just gets to say that he didn't even read some of the game and be fine, and everyone else is fine too. I guess he's like that dull pain in the back of your head that you just kinda zone out after a while.
and just like a headache I just wanna shut the blinds and crawl into bed and wait until it's gone.
people aren't, like, fine with it. it's kush. it's why no one listens to him.
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I don't think a one game ban is appropriate. This is abuse of the rules to help your team, and it's explicitly listed as one of the most serious ways that one can cheat in this game. I think the punishment for this needs to be more serious than the punishment for getting modkilled for missing a vote or ragequitting in a normal way.
Like, this wasn't just a modkill or ragequit, it was an attempt to influence the game with a forced modkill.
I think a three-game ban is more appropriate than a one-game. This should include the one that mocsta already has decided not to participate in, so two more games.
But some rules are much more serious than others, and those rules need to be enforced more strongly than everyday infractions.
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Permaban is obviously too extreme. Maybe a two-game ban rather than three.
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On August 22 2013 23:56 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 23:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
help your team?
I'll remind you that his modkill made the votes from town 3-2 scum to 2-2, essentially fucking any chance to ever lynch scum. Yep, but the intention was there, which is what matters in these situations. edit: let me clarify I guess. Mocsta was almost certainly either going to be lynched or shot. He was aware of this and from my perspective (although mocsta has not said this as far as I'm aware) he got himself modkilled because he thought it might benefit town. Yes, it turns out it removed town's majority in votes that cycle but mocsta did not know this at the time, I assume he thought he was making it possible for town to lynch/shoot scum instead of him. That's not to say I agree that he needs more than a 1 game ban, not sure what I think about this yet, but it's worth discussing I realize you were just co-hosting marv, but could you explain why the hosts have not really commented on this situation yet? Or if any other hosts are around, ofcourse. Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I would really like if GoT hosts brought up the Mocsta issue here. Purposely getting yourself modkilled is ruining the game for everyone. At least that's how i feel. That's the worst thing you can do. Play against your wincon and ruin the game for people. I also remember myself getting a 5 game ban for the same thing. Why are different people treated differently in these kind of situations?
He actually did say this was his reasoning for getting modkilled.
On August 20 2013 15:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 15:18 DrParnassus wrote:
moc, yours was malicious. i remember reading that you've never been mislynched.... ragequitting at a critical time for town is not the ideal way to uphold that statistic It may have been taken that way. But it was actually for town to move on and get a successful lynch. I didn't predict town would react that way Either way. I genuinely didn't know it was cheating. If I did. I certainly wouldn't have quit. So I do apologise on those grounds.
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but it's in every single OP and he's been playing here for a while, I don't think that makes it okay.
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