EPTLike I said, I dunno where the rest of scum's kp went, but it either got blocked or they spread it out to kill 4 people n2 or whatever.
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Like I said, I dunno where the rest of scum's kp went, but it either got blocked or they spread it out to kill 4 people n2 or whatever. | ||
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Or is it more likely that scum realized gumshoe had 1 hp so they just used 1kp out of like the (random guess) 12-20 they have? If you're scum and you become aware of someone who's not scum being killable with hardly any downside, why not kill him. Especially since you're in his house, meaning you only have to convince one person to make you lord now, instead of two. He could be replaced, he could be a blue. No reason to overthink it. The rest of scum kp could have easily hit a high hp townie or been blocked. There's 0 reason to think they would stack kp on gumshoe. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:46 Dandel Ion wrote: Why is it assumed scum can split their kp in the first place? Pretty decent assumption in this large a game, no? I also think it's pretty standard in hp games? | ||
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On August 11 2013 19:01 Xatalos wrote: Clarity, I think grackaroni is town atm. He's also making sense in this discussion. He wouldn't be made Lord if gumshoe died. gumshoe was also playing for scum, even if he was town, so why would scum use their KP and not let him just hinder town (probably a mislynch or at least wasted KP)? Even if he was blue, which was unlikely, he would still almost certainly be of advantage to scum. I would never kill gumshoe as scum, especially if it meant putting myself at risk (like in grackaroni's case). That's the thing I never called him scum. I called you and iamp likely town though. Anyway, killing him as scum makes more sense if one of you three is scum. I'm done WIFOMing though. If later on in the game there's still no town claim for shooting gumshoe or a flip that suggests town might have shot him, then I want to revisit this. On August 11 2013 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Why using setup speculation to defend yourself is bad? Come on Ace. He was being attacked with setup speculation... how else is he supposed to defend himself at this point? He was called scum because of the assumption that his house MUST have a scum, so he explains that we don't know if all houses have scum. This isn't difficult. Let's just let ace catch up and get some reads, yes? | ||
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let me just put it in one post to make it easier. xata claims roleblocked oberyn claims watcher and says he targeted xata, 2 visitors. He hasn't told us who, though. onegu claims 1 shot medic on xata Easy conclusion: xata lied about the roleblock or onegu is lying about the 1shot medic or the 2nd person who targeted xata is the roleblocker. xata looks pretty town, no reason for him to lie and no reason for a town roleblocker to target him Therefore either Onegu or the second person is scum With how quickly onegu claimed 1shot medic I doubt he's scum trying to get a townie lynched before he dies. Therefore whoever is left is scum. Oberyn if you did not fakeclaim you should just tell us who it is so we can lynch him | ||
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If the person is town he is likely a protective role, if the person is scum he will likely claim a protective role. If we lynch this person and he flips town we can't immediately lynch onegu for this. | ||
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On August 11 2013 20:37 Xatalos wrote: The fact is that I was roleblocked. Why would I lie about that? So 1) Oberyn is lying (scum) 2) Onegu is lying (scum) 3) X is lying (scum) If X flips town, we absolutely need to lynch Onegu or Oberyn. That's what I mean. Both people on you could theoretically be town. Onegu's claim seems really natural, so I think he's town. Oberyn seems town. If X flips town I don't think we can lynch onegu/oberyn on just this watcher claim | ||
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I guess jailer is a possibility but unlikely. | ||
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The only explanation where all are town is a town jailer. Very unlikely and if player X is anyone even remotely scummy we need to lynch them | ||
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If there is a town roleblocker it's more likely he targeted me, than xata. | ||
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On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote: First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities. ##vote Yamato Could we have... details about these little birds? | ||
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Let me sum up the 5 pages of d2: On August 11 2013 20:20 Clarity_nl wrote: Anyway... let me just put it in one post to make it easier. xata claims roleblocked oberyn claims watcher and says he targeted xata, 2 visitors. He hasn't told us who, though. onegu claims 1 shot medic on xata Easy conclusion: xata lied about the roleblock or onegu is lying about the 1shot medic or the 2nd person who targeted xata is the roleblocker. xata looks pretty town, no reason for him to lie and no reason for a town roleblocker to target him Therefore either Onegu or the second person is scum With how quickly onegu claimed 1shot medic I doubt he's scum trying to get a townie lynched before he dies. Therefore whoever is left is scum. Oberyn if you did not fakeclaim you should just tell us who it is so we can lynch him | ||
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Oats, to answer your question, to protect the cop, perhaps? | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:22 Oberyn wrote: But wasn't yamato one of your scum reads prior? Oats has been rather persistent in calling yamato town in pms. | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:33 Sharrant wrote: Well, I wasn't quite expecting to be revealed so quickly. I claimed my role to Acro last night (I'm a one shot alignment cop). I asked him who I should target with it, he said Kush and Yamato. Both players I had in mind originally. In case he was mafia I lied and said I would target Kush. After I brought up framing he suggested that Kush might be too high profile, and that I should check Koshi or Ace. I think both of those are fairly legitimate suggestions. It seems less likely that Acro is mafia because he was suggesting more people to check that are in positions where a check would be very good. An alternative is that Acro is mafia, and they have no framer like role, so he wanted to push me off a mafia Kush, but I find this unlikely. At the end of the day you're left with a red check on Yamato, someone relatively out of the spotlight and not a likely choice for framers. And as I stated, his argumentative nature in this game is quite different from how it is when he's arguing as a town member. I like this. I'll go with this. I also want to share that while oats has been really eager to convince me yamato is town, vivax has been really eager to convince me he's scum. | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:37 Acrofales wrote: I may be forced to use the too dumb to be Blackfyre line. Are you drunk? While we're on the topic, how the flying fuck did the Starks think it was a good idea to elect you? I understand not electing Strongandbig again, but you are far from an improvement. Please explain the politics of Winterfell. I can. Vivax voted snb and went away 12 hours before deadline. Oats did not want to vote me, snb did not want to vote himself (he said he's be less active today) From my perspective it was oats as lord or no lord. | ||
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On August 11 2013 23:11 Ace wrote: read his earlier conversations with me. Poor Starks, always have shit leaders. Ace rather than flinging shit with oats which doesn't do anyone any good, have you caught up and if so could you... you know, do things? | ||
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On August 12 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: wtf is with you guys? Why did you discuss the watcher situation? You'd rather we didn't discuss it? | ||
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