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I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:
gumshoe has 7 kp.
The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.
4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.
Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check.
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On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote: We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...
Just to follow up on this...
Did iamp inform you of the results of the check before the night cycle ended?
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On August 11 2013 15:28 Grackaroni wrote: Yes. I did consider this as well after i said that in thread but more likely he was shot additionally by a townie with kp. Scum could have gotten a free lynch from Gumshoe today...
You don't find it incredibly strange that a player releases the number of shots it takes to eliminate 4 players at a point where the mafia can still submit their night hits?
If there is a townie who used a kp to finish off gumshoe, I think they should claim to their Lord, that Lord pms their strongest town read Lord, and the town kp is claimed anonymously in the thread.
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On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 15:19 Oberyn wrote: I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:
gumshoe has 7 kp.
The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.
4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.
Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check. Why would scum want gumshoe dead ASAP though? He wasn't doing anything. But if we follow your logic, one of me, iamperfection or grackaroni is scum. I have townreads on all three of us now though, so I doubt it. It could have been a Vigi or something similar as well.
It's also possible that another Lord used their kp check. If no town claims the shot, then I'd be extremely suspicious of whoever knew how much it would take to kill gumshoe. Mafia would obviously want gumshoe dead ASAP if they knew it would only take 1 kp, since he could be blue and is a easy pick off when there are players with 7+ hp around.
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On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote: I was roleblocked tonight. Dunno for what reason.
I'm going to roleclaim now because I think it leads us to at least one mafia lynch.
I'm Oberyn Martell The Watcher who targeted Xatalos last night. I saw two different players visit Xatalos during the night cycle. Claim in the thread the reason you were visiting him or we assume you're the roleblocker and we lynch you.
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On August 11 2013 15:50 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote: I was roleblocked tonight. Dunno for what reason. I'm going to roleclaim now because I think it leads us to at least one mafia lynch. I'm Oberyn Martell The Watcher who targeted Xatalos last night. I saw two different players visit Xatalos during the night cycle. Claim in the thread the reason you were visiting him or we assume you're the roleblocker and we lynch you.
Actually on second thought. PM your Lord the reason that you were visiting Xatalos. That way we don't potentially expose a blue. The Lord can then PM me with the reason. If I don't hear back, I'll just out both players and we can decide between the scummiest.
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I'll give the other player a few more hours to claim via pms to their Lord for them to pass it on to me. If they don't, I'll reveal who they are and we can lynch them.
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On August 11 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote: What happens if A: Its a fakecheck. B: Yamato is a miller C: Yamato was framed. Hm Xata?
So is that what you think oats?
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On August 11 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 22:20 Oberyn wrote:On August 11 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote: What happens if A: Its a fakecheck. B: Yamato is a miller C: Yamato was framed. Hm Xata? So is that what you think oats? yes
But wasn't yamato one of your scum reads prior?
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It's worth noting that I told iamp I thought FT should be shot and asked if they'd consider a yamato lynched. He was not open to consideration.
I then PM'd iamp stating that I want yamato moved up to the priority night kill. He disagreed and insisted that gumshoe and kush be shot first.
I asked Acro about his thoughts on night hits, including yamato's name and he said that he was too busy in PMs to reply. He completely dodged the question.
Chromatically put yamato last on his list of night shots behind gumshoe, kush, and johnnywup stating that yamato will likely be lynched today.
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rayn, what is your opinion of Ace deciding not to elect you as Lord?
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##Vote yamato77
I haven't been around a computer all day, but I should be available most of tomorrow. The thread should be made aware that I am not a watcher and Onegu is not a 1-shot medic. It was probably a long shot, but I have received no information regarding the identity of the roleblocker. Carry on.
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Acro, for what reason did you not attempt to sit on the red check and either pass it to me to talk with yamato in pms or wait to see who yamato would push today?
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On August 10 2013 06:40 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:37 Dandel Ion wrote: A bit more likely he's just scum with koshi though. The way koshi went about saying he's voting sol over me without explaining it or listening to my reasons also suggests as much. I'd like to take another look at this post. Dandel suggests that the most likely situation is that koshi and sol are scum buddies. However, at an earlier point he explained how sol was lying and misrepresenting his town abilities in a pm with koshi and that koshi reported back to dandel with this information. Is is just me or does it make absolutely no sense that a scum player would decide to campaign to convince his own scum buddy, then that scum buddy would report the misrepresentation back to a town player. I really don't understand how dandel could come to a conclusion that they are both mafia.
Dandel, could you please comment on this post.
Additionally, why did you choose to disappear at the end of d1?
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On August 12 2013 22:50 kushm4sta wrote: I'm so tired of fakeclaims.... it happens like every game now. Lynch the fake claimers so we won't have to deal with this shit in future games IMO>>>>>>>>>
Just to be clear, you think I should be lynched?
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I've gone over the pm's I have received from yamato post red flip:
In PM's, I asked jrkirby if he has been in contact with yamato and he replied that he sent a pm, but did not receive a response. I then asked yamato if he had been in contact with jrkirby and he responded that he has never received anything. When I confronted jrkirby about the conflict, he explained that he was sending the pms to yamato, rather than yamato77. The house PM did refer to him as yamato, without the numbering.
jrkirby told me that he was concerned about the FT lynch and expressed interest in a yamato lynch, refering to him as the scummiest player in the thread.
yamato sent a PM to Onegu stating that we should vote for him because he is the most experienced player on our team. I received the exact same PM. jrkirby indicated that he did not receive the same campaign speech. I find it incredibly odd that he wanted two of us to vote for him, but not the third. When I asked him about it, he claims to have found it incredibly strange not to have heard from him, but he will contact him once he has time. So why does he have time to contact two of us, but not the third?
yamato is not interested in giving an opinion on koshi/sol. He expresses suspcion about s&b, mostly one-liners.
I told yamato that he was currently the priority vig shot if he doesn't start posting and he replied as if he knew he was not the priority shot. Dirty scum Lord?
yamato PM'd me asking for my pms from Acro. He claimed that he was building a case on Acro for day two.
yamato claims vanilla to me this cycle.
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iamp, when I asked for yamato to be our night hit because everyone had a scum read on him, what was the reason you wanted gumshoe and kush shot first?
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On August 12 2013 23:32 Clarity_nl wrote: What do you mean post red flip. The reveal of the check in thread or?
The check/trolling of the thread.
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On August 12 2013 23:34 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:31 Oberyn wrote: iamp, when I asked for yamato to be our night hit because everyone had a scum read on him, what was the reason you wanted gumshoe and kush shot first? are you seriously asking me why i wanted gumeshoe shot.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................really? kush is useless piece of shit i still want him shot.
I'm asking why you preferred them over yamato......really.
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