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Eh, just skimming over his red filter, I don't really see tooooo much of a striking resemblance. Maybe a little, but it doesn't scream to me as you said it would.
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So you're saying with your anointed power as certified grack reader that grack is town?
Or are you saying you just kinda feel like he's town?
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On August 09 2013 20:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Any thoughts on Oberyn dandel?
I don't like how he plays.
It feels like he's always trying to talk about things that are not relevant at the moment.
Like, he keeps annoying me about sol while koshi is the topic, then when we finally talk about sol, the topic he liked so much, he suddenly goes on about acro instead.
Not sure what that means for his alignment but it ain't feeling right.
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On August 09 2013 21:44 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 17:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. If you're going to say this, you have to list names. Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 20:10 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 20:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Any thoughts on Oberyn dandel? I don't like how he plays. It feels like he's always trying to talk about things that are not relevant at the moment. Like, he keeps annoying me about sol while koshi is the topic, then when we finally talk about sol, the topic he liked so much, he suddenly goes on about acro instead. Not sure what that means for his alignment but it ain't feeling right. So you attack me for asking about sol, but you would be quite happy with sol. You attack me for poking at Acro, but you understand why he would be suspicious. And this means that my play doesn't "feel right"? In what way does moving forward the conversation targeted at people you view as likely scum make you dislike my play?
If you can't even look at the signup-list and be able to tell who isn't posting, you aren't reading the thread.
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On August 09 2013 21:52 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 21:44 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 17:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. If you're going to say this, you have to list names. On August 09 2013 20:10 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 20:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Any thoughts on Oberyn dandel? I don't like how he plays. It feels like he's always trying to talk about things that are not relevant at the moment. Like, he keeps annoying me about sol while koshi is the topic, then when we finally talk about sol, the topic he liked so much, he suddenly goes on about acro instead. Not sure what that means for his alignment but it ain't feeling right. So you attack me for asking about sol, but you would be quite happy with sol. You attack me for poking at Acro, but you understand why he would be suspicious. And this means that my play doesn't "feel right"? In what way does moving forward the conversation targeted at people you view as likely scum make you dislike my play? If you can't even look at the signup-list and be able to tell who isn't posting, you aren't reading the thread. There is no reason to respond like this as town. I asked you for specific individuals that you believe should be shot. There are at least 10 people who could be classified as lurkers. They obviously aren't all mafia. Which ones are more likely to flip mafia?
See, you do know who's a lurker and who's not.
Wasn't that hard was it.
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What's there to respond to?
Obviously you can (and will) try to make it sound super pro town (durr), but I disagree with that interpretation.
The fact that they are people I find scummy makes the action null for now.
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On August 09 2013 21:55 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 21:54 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 21:52 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 21:44 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 17:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. If you're going to say this, you have to list names. On August 09 2013 20:10 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 20:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Any thoughts on Oberyn dandel? I don't like how he plays. It feels like he's always trying to talk about things that are not relevant at the moment. Like, he keeps annoying me about sol while koshi is the topic, then when we finally talk about sol, the topic he liked so much, he suddenly goes on about acro instead. Not sure what that means for his alignment but it ain't feeling right. So you attack me for asking about sol, but you would be quite happy with sol. You attack me for poking at Acro, but you understand why he would be suspicious. And this means that my play doesn't "feel right"? In what way does moving forward the conversation targeted at people you view as likely scum make you dislike my play? If you can't even look at the signup-list and be able to tell who isn't posting, you aren't reading the thread. There is no reason to respond like this as town. I asked you for specific individuals that you believe should be shot. There are at least 10 people who could be classified as lurkers. They obviously aren't all mafia. Which ones are more likely to flip mafia? See, you do know who's a lurker and who's not. Wasn't that hard was it. Are you trying to imitate Ace or something? Keep working on it.
yeah sure buddy you sure showed me
oh boy
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On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynOn August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all?
No, but he sure would like to act like it.
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On August 09 2013 22:29 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 22:22 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
You told onegu it was a pressure vote? Was it? As opposed to a vote meant to not pressure him? Yes I wanted a reaction. On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. It hasn't changed and I just asked him a few things less than an hour ago, but he's playing hard to get. I don't think sol and dandel are both scum, which is the part time trying to figure out. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Suggestions? On August 09 2013 22:16 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 22:14 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 21:56 Clarity_nl wrote:I didn't mention the hp check because it wasn't part of my case? I'm not sure what you're referring too based on that last statement. You did mention the hp check. You're misunderstanding what I'm referring to. The 1-shot single target hp check was what I did not mention and was what Acro did not understand. I'm referring to when Acro wanted to use the 1-shot house hp check for no real reason other than to figure out the hp system. On August 09 2013 21:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why do you tell rayn you have a scumread on acro but don't give him reasons AND tell him to not tell anyone else. We discussed the scummy setup analysis. I told him to not tell anyone because I wanted Acro to be more open in PMs if he thought I trusted him. On August 09 2013 21:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
You mention you said it to multiple players, who else? Did you give them reasons or is it the same as with rayn? rayn and chrom mainly. I told Onegu that it was a pressure vote. I don't give any other reasoning, nor was I asked really. Could you make a summary of your thought process in this issue? You lost me somewhere along the way. At this point I'd rather focus more on other players than myself, unless there was something about Acro that you don't follow. As opposed to a vote to lynch him because he's scum. I understand the two are not mutually exclusive but if it's so obvious that every vote is a pressure vote then why did you tell onegu it was a pressure vote? onegu expressed that he would prefer my vote to remain on sol. I wanted to see where the thread went after the discussion of sol died off and there was still a full 24 hours left in the day to explore new individuals. I replied that I wanted to pressure Acro and would likely return to sol. At this point, I'm undecided whether or not I will be returning to sol, dandel, or possibly yamato/iamp. When I poked yamato for activity, he said he would be on for a while tonight and assumed he would catch up in the thread. He has continued to be around, but not helpful, which is why he is one of my preferred lurker shot candidates (See dandel, that wasn't very hard was it? Your turn!)
okay, shoot kush.
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:44 FirmTofu wrote:On August 09 2013 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro's first post felt way more constructed. Like not even close to being natural cause he was Roleplaying. So I dont think its alignment indicative. So you think the fact that it was more constructed makes it non-alignment indicative? Wouldn't scum be more worried about the content of their posts than town? Why would constructed flavor not be alignment indicative? FT, I'm not sure what you use as reason for calling Acro scum. Do you think he's scum for caring about the content of his posts or do you want to kill him for roleplaying, seems like a mix of the both. Wanting people to stop posting bollocks is fine but assuming they're scum for playing around in their first posts seems like a stretch. Are you claiming that Acro is also scum for roleplaying or only for: Show nested quote +Afrocales' post looks very constructed and deliberate. He holds back by soft-accuses Oats instead of pushing him like he should be. The apathy is in plain sight for everyone to see This is what Acro said: Show nested quote +
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.
To me it looks like he's asking for reasons for Oats townreads on the house members. You call it a soft-accuse, how do you draw the line?
It's quite a bit beyond "first posts" by now and it's getting real fucking annoying.
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.
I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynOn August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all? No, but he sure would like to act like it. Just to be clear, does this mean that I'm maliciously trying to make you look bad as a potential mislynch or that I'm just casting suspicion on you for personal amusement?
Just to be clear, have you, or have you not ever seen one of my towngames?
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On August 09 2013 22:40 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:33 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.
Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.
On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
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koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
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Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynOn August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all? No, but he sure would like to act like it. Just to be clear, does this mean that I'm maliciously trying to make you look bad as a potential mislynch or that I'm just casting suspicion on you for personal amusement? Just to be clear, have you, or have you not ever seen one of my towngames? Yes sir.
So why do you act like you didn't?
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On August 09 2013 22:42 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:40 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:33 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
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This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3).
4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.
Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.
I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynOn August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all? No, but he sure would like to act like it. Just to be clear, does this mean that I'm maliciously trying to make you look bad as a potential mislynch or that I'm just casting suspicion on you for personal amusement? Just to be clear, have you, or have you not ever seen one of my towngames? Yes sir. So why do you act like you didn't? If you're playing scummy, saying "hey guys look at my old games, I always play scummy" isn't a valid excuse. I'm not a huge meta fan either. If you're incapable of emulating your town play as scum, then you're not very good scum player.
I'm not even playing scummy, you're just imagining that.
Yes, I'm a bad scum player.
That's what I keep telling people...
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On August 09 2013 22:47 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:42 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:40 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:33 Oberyn wrote:On August 09 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:
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I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case?
I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment.
I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement?
@ Oberyn
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I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy.
Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment.
That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all? No, but he sure would like to act like it. Just to be clear, does this mean that I'm maliciously trying to make you look bad as a potential mislynch or that I'm just casting suspicion on you for personal amusement? Just to be clear, have you, or have you not ever seen one of my towngames? Yes sir. So why do you act like you didn't? If you're playing scummy, saying "hey guys look at my old games, I always play scummy" isn't a valid excuse. I'm not a huge meta fan either. If you're incapable of emulating your town play as scum, then you're not very good scum player. I'm not even playing scummy, you're just imagining that. Yes, I'm a bad scum player. That's what I keep telling people... Don't worry. I can give you some tips post game if you ask nicely. Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:44 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 06:17 jrkirby wrote:
Also, I have a hunch that DI and Koshi are both town, and they're kinda "OMGUSing" each other. Often people who think they're really good at scumhunting spend a lot of time accusing people who are town and tunneling, and have confirmation bias when they're actually right. Scum are less likely to do this kinda tunneling. Oberyn, what do you think of this? jrkirby hasn't set off any red flags yet in PMs, though similar to Acro, I question how they come to the both town conclusion so easily. In this case, I'd be more suspicious of Acro, rather than kirby due to experience. Kirby is going to find himself shot if he's not posting in the thread more though.
how about no
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I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending.
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koshi doesn't respond to meta argument in 5 minutes, confirmed scum.
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On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime.
XLIV
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On August 10 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:58 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg What is that? That game I had 3 pages of post till I got into a superheated discussion with Chroma on who to lynch.
we have had a heated discussion and shit, which already bloated your filter and you still sittin at 2.
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