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On August 12 2013 22:22 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:17 Acrofales wrote:On August 12 2013 22:14 Onegu wrote:On August 12 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 22:09 Onegu wrote:
and he is getting looked at alot more than he would have if he never claimed. Best case for a scum Oberyn is he trades himself for one blue. Doesnt seem legit No, if town JK did claim, there is no reason to think Oberyn is suddenly more/less scummy than he was before. It has nothing to do with Oberyn and the JK dying does not necessarily mean he is mafia. What means is that he outed a blue, whatever alignment he is. Outing a blue with a fakeclaim. Only to have that person die would look really bad on him, and I am sure people would want his lynch, its to much risk for little reward as scum. Well, you're here saying he's loyal for the exact reasons that people would say he's loyal if all this happened. Nevertheless, it all seems entirely based on wifom. There is also still the third possibility that you are a Blackfyre and that's why a Blackfyre roleblocker never claimed: Oberyn's plan was hatched by a loyalist, but immediately compromised. Until we actually get some flips or further info, it all seems like pointless wifom, though. Yes I am going though motivation and what could have happened. If he is scum he doesnt gain much no matter how it played out.
Ofcourse he gets alot because scum knows who the JK is and Oberyn can just say "guys, you all believed the visitor was scum, I did that as well and tried to find him". Also, Clarity & Xatalos had to post around 10 times to come to this conclusion while Oberyn just found it instantly out on his own? That's very unlikely.
Oberyn & iamp both scum? Interesting.
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On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time.
THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA
You scum Onegu?
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On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted.
You can only claim stupid or scum tbh.
What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi.
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On August 12 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi. listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM?
Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense?
And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical.
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On August 12 2013 22:52 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi. listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp That's a fair point but a LOT of people were aware of who was getting lord kp'd that night. Surely the vigi if he did not know would try to find out before shooting someone? As town vigi I would not shoot the person the lords are kping, even if he didn't die close to nightpost.
THANK YOU
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On August 12 2013 22:53 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:51 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi. listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM? Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense? And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical. because im the towniest player in the game and the reason people dont listen to you is because your stupid. and your not even considering why else i would think it was a town vig. now drop it
You claiming vig?
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On August 12 2013 23:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:09 Acrofales wrote:On August 12 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 23:05 Acrofales wrote:On August 12 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
@Oberyn: I probably should have waited with revealing the detective's information, but I saw the PM urging me to talk to the other lords and saw no point in just telling the lords, so I told the general populace. Waiting may have revealed some associative tells from Yamato and may have been the better course of action. Your kinsman has not been taking our meeting seriously since its very start, though, so I don't think we missed out on much. Why didnt you talk with Sharrant instead of outing him? He was already outed? You should come south, my dear Lord Stark. All that cold is freezing your brain to the point of utter uselessness. He is in your house right? I and I dont think anyone else thought he was the cop before you posted that yamato got checked. Yeah yeah. You're a Blackfyre. Nobody is really this stupid. So lets ask other dudes. Before Acro claimed the red check on Yamato, who thought that Sharrant was cop?
lol. You kinda hinted it, even if it was unintentional.
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@Sharrant
A vig with a 1 KP shot? Or 3 KP shot? Like how stupid is that? A vig shoots people death, not hit them for 1 HP... I could see 3hp/5hp vig if the vig can shoot multiple times but then it is still stupid to shoot gumshoe unless for some reason you think gumshoe has 10 hp. While that doesn't make any sense at all because lords can only do 6 hp damage combined.
Also that's not even the point. The point is that iamp says that it is MOST LIKELY a vig. While it is most likely it is scum in his house knowing gumshoe has 1 hp.
but w.e. I drop it because everybody thinks iamp is town.
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On August 13 2013 00:07 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
neither. i honestly believe this. for this game and future games we need to start plynching fake claimers so they stop doing it You're lecturing us after deciding that you're only going to start playing the second half of the game, stating that you have no scum reads, and you want to push a policy lynch the day of a red check? I'm not sure if I'd be more upset if you were to flip town or scum.
How can you be upset when he flips scum?
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On August 12 2013 23:54 Vivax wrote:
Hey Koshi, shouldn't you find it strange that Oats got elected lord of our house? Wasn't he your scumread?
There's something I want to bring to thread's attention. S & B was extraordinarily malleable in his role as lord during N1. I had to leave that day already and decided I would put my vote onto him again cause he actually agreed on yamato being a viable target. The points he mentioned for him being scummy was
1. The way we (?) have to drag everything out of him and
2. The bad push on S & B himself, but he added that he might be biased cause he was being pushed.
Initially, S & B got convinced by Calrity to vote Onegu without much resistance, he quickly agreed with clarity's arguments and I asked S & B what he liked about those reasons, then I asked clarity what he said to him.
Their arguments:
Clarity:
- Mainly: Onegu soft-defended people too quickly.
- Simply doesn't seem interested, more posts in pregame
S & B:
- Agrees that pre-game banter was too much compared to in-game.
- Added that he only posted a clarity townread at the time.
- Sees himself as example for being soft-defended too quickly.
While being afk, S & B sent me a PM where he said he was going along with a plan from iamp and Rayn to shoot gumshoe.
I can't help but feel that S & B might be scum for his low activity, I don't see much case making from him, and it looked to me like he subjectively felt uncomfortable in the lord role.
What iamp and Rayn can now do is give me more insight into S & B's decision making process and if he mentioned yamato and Onegu in the conversation with you too. I'm interested into knowing how much dedication he put into proposing them as night kills. Given yamato's likely red flip I am suspicious of the way S & B agreed with me on yamato, possibly not doing anything about it afterwards.
On August 12 2013 23:54 Vivax wrote:
Hey Koshi, shouldn't you find it strange that Oats got elected lord of our house? Wasn't he your scumread?
Hey Vivax, wasn't I your scumread and I suggest you stop trying to get me lynched? I thought we were bros after Sicilian and that you would have my back. Like in Titanic.
Our friendship is coming to an end like this. Unless you are scum, then I can forgive you. + Show Spoiler +If you claim now, baby seals is the way to go.
If yamato flips town Oats is my nr 1 lynch for tomorrow. But chances are pretty low.
Also, I have read the rest of your message 3 times now and I don't understand what you are saying. Who is scum?
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^ failed quote. I didn't want to quote everything.
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On August 13 2013 00:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Koshi, what? Show nested quote +If yamato flips town Oats is my nr 1 lynch for tomorrow. But chances are pretty low.
Who were you going to suggest to lynch when Yamato flipped town?
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On August 13 2013 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sorry Koshi, I dont understand the past tense of that statement.
You said that you wanted to suggest a lynch if Yamato were to flip town?
Who was it?
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On August 13 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah acro.
Its not cause Yamato flips town.
Even after the baby seals and the gifs? lol... Impossible. The guy makes a podcast. He will not trow a game like this.
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On August 13 2013 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:28 Koshi wrote:On August 13 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah acro.
Its not cause Yamato flips town. Even after the baby seals and the gifs? lol... Impossible. The guy makes a podcast. He will not trow a game like this. I dont understand what you are saying.
Just going to ignore you after this.
A guy who takes the game serious will never trow a game as town by posting baby seals and gifs. Not going to happen. ever.
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On August 13 2013 03:26 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah I don't see how this Grack thing is scummy at all.
Do you think there is a mole in the Lannister House? If so is it JrKirby, iamp, or Grack?
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On August 13 2013 03:45 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote:On August 13 2013 03:26 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah I don't see how this Grack thing is scummy at all. Do you think there is a mole in the Lannister House? If so is it JrKirby, iamp, or Grack? Just to clarify, Jrkirby is not a Lannister (And if he is, we've got a nice dungeon cellar for him)
Ah yeah. Sorry...
Was trying to trap Chrom but that didn't work out well lol......
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On August 13 2013 03:55 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 03:51 Koshi wrote:On August 13 2013 03:45 Oberyn wrote:On August 13 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote:On August 13 2013 03:26 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah I don't see how this Grack thing is scummy at all. Do you think there is a mole in the Lannister House? If so is it JrKirby, iamp, or Grack? Just to clarify, Jrkirby is not a Lannister (And if he is, we've got a nice dungeon cellar for him) Ah yeah. Sorry... Was trying to trap Chrom but that didn't work out well lol...... What was the trap?
Yeah, I had a feeling that you had both Grack and JrKirby as scumread and dnu... It was bad. Ignore me -_-.
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I actually like Risen his case on Sharrant.
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Koshi
Had a scum read on him early game. Especially as he maintained his tunnel on oats, which just read as forced points. Long absence; followed by a resurgence in posting late Day2. I actualy don’t mind his recent posting. Willing to give him a chance. Again, I want his opinion on people like chromatically/iamperfection. Null to leaning scum.
Tried to question my House about Chrom. I have a strong townread on s0lstice (3p is also possible) and I didn't like Chrom tunnel on s0lstice but my entire House thinks Chrom is town, all Lords think Chrom is town and Chrom his PMs are indeed ok to think he is town. But we don't PM that much, which is House Baratheon style. I could actually see Chrom being 3p now. It fits perfect, because you can fool people easier because you don't know who is scum.
Request:
Who posted that yamato could be Mr.X. ? I can't find that post anymore.
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