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On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.
I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan. Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to: 1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not. 2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere. Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence. So you wanna discuss townreads because? Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time. I don´t think this is the right way to think about it. The game does not work in the way that i say "X is town" and when people ask me "why" i say "i don´t wanna discuss my townreads" and everyone should take me at face value. But you are right, the discussion is going nowhere as we cleraly have different opinion here. Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu?
Dude, you arent thinking the right way about it. Im saying that 3 our of our list in the game is town. Thats it. That shouldnt do anything to help you or hurt you from finding scum.
I think koshi and Johnnywup top candidates for reasons already expressed by both dandel and myself. Yeah Onegu really needs to explain that bit. First giving out info is bad, then townread.
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Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.
So events happened like this.
I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys?
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On August 09 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.
So events happened like this.
I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys? I read all of this and i´m like wtf? I am clueless..
so therefore, this is why we dont discuss pm's in detail cause explaining shit is hard. Stick to the thread.
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Acro's first post felt way more constructed. Like not even close to being natural cause he was Roleplaying. So I dont think its alignment indicative.
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On August 09 2013 14:44 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro's first post felt way more constructed. Like not even close to being natural cause he was Roleplaying. So I dont think its alignment indicative. So you think the fact that it was more constructed makes it non-alignment indicative? Wouldn't scum be more worried about the content of their posts than town? Why would constructed flavor not be alignment indicative?
Because both scum and town have to construct a roleplaying post. Its not natural either way so therefore the fact that its constructed is not alignment indicative. The content on the other hand, may be. I dunno.
Ok so I was looking through johnnywup's filter and I saw this
On August 09 2013 05:57 johnnywup wrote:
i don't have any extra information and its the first thing that came to mind for a 3p wincon in a themed setup like this. robert barath trying to kill targs is like pretty big in lore so it came to mind pretty quickly. I posted the exact same thought in a PM to my housemates and none seemed to think it was scummy.
And its really weird that his defence is 'none of my housemates think it was scummy'. Shows an attitude of caring about his appearance. Not that he was wrong about the 3p or whatever but that his suggestion did not look scummy to other people. Weird mindset. Thoughts?
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On August 09 2013 14:58 johnnywup wrote:
he said it was scummy that I had that thought and I said that others saw it and some thought the exact opposite. Maybe that doesn't even really matter but I thought it was worth pointing out.
Why is it worth pointing out?
Why didnt you explain why its not scummy to think that there is a 3p
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On August 09 2013 15:19 johnnywup wrote:
I dunno, I just thought it was. Does that bother you?
It's scummy to think there's a 3p?
It bothers me that your defence is 'these guys think its not scummy'
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On August 09 2013 15:44 johnnywup wrote:
it's hardly a defense i'm sure you'll agree. i didn't really intend for it to be a defense. I was just pointing out a contrast. Do you think I'm scum?
yes
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So which lurker do you want to die Xata?
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I feel that kush will show his alignment either way.
So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right?
Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree.
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koshi so bad man.
So bad 
On August 09 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed.
I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town.
So i have townreads. Big whoop.
I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them.
Making cases means im town? Wow fuck thats easy. Why do you think Im not making cases?
Town atmosphere is overrated man, you have this idealistic view of an optimum town atmosphere. Oh well.
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What exactly is kush's town meta Sharrant?
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Why are you posting that more than 48 hours until we have to vote Oberyn?
Seems like useless fluff to me.
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koshi too dick to be scum. MY FINAL READ ON KOSHI.
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yeah I could get behind a sharrant lynch.
I dunno Vivax. I dunno. If he flips town do I get to say 'I TOLD YOU SO'?
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On August 10 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 10 2013 02:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you posting that more than 48 hours until we have to vote Oberyn?
Seems like useless fluff to me. Pretty sure we vote for lord during n1, OP states every night. Btw the OP also states lords are lords for the following day AND nightcycle. Who was it that said lords cant pm eachother during the night? I said that, it´s in OP.
doesnt night 1 end in like 2 days?
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FT is a pure lurker lynch.
I thought we were leaving this to kp?
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Acro has been absolutely useless, popping in once in a while to soft push people and disappear. And look at this scumreads post.
On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, people I want to lynch:
jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.
FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.
Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.
I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now.
So Acro wants to lynch 2 lurkers and someone he doesnt even give proper explanation for.
acro isnt this bad as town. Horrible post. Horrible.
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On August 10 2013 12:59 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT is a pure lurker lynch.
I thought we were leaving this to kp? shut up no it isn't read the thread
I read his filter. Its like 7 pages.
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