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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#1242
On August 10 2013 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?

seeing as you say you have a townread on sol.

I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me?

no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it.
same thing i told sol.

I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter.........
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 17:20 GMT
#1245
On August 10 2013 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?

seeing as you say you have a townread on sol.

I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me?

no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it.
same thing i told sol.

I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter.........

its not because of the filter, retard, it's because I'm sick and tired of you and sol acting like you do more in PMs, which is false.

This is what I had to fucking work with on n0. You ask him a question, he says do "x", I do "x" he calls you a retard. Fucking bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 17:27 GMT
#1250
On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?

seeing as you say you have a townread on sol.

When you made this you completely forgot that I asked you about chrom didn't you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:11 GMT
#1337
On August 10 2013 04:01 Oberyn wrote:
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On August 10 2013 03:14 Oberyn wrote:
Does anyone disagree with the Lords splitting the house kp between 2 targets with 3 kp a piece?


I disagree with this actually. I think it might have been mentioned elsewhere, but I forgot about it. It is probably better to shoot the same player in order until they flip, then move on to the next player on the list.

Does anyone disagree with this?

No I agree with that completely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:14 GMT
#1342
On August 10 2013 03:56 Acrofales wrote:
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On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'

If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.

In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending.

lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime.

You were in the TL+ Mafia game, right? I was coaching scum in that atrocity of a game and I seem to recall you as one of the few highlights of town, but the whole game was full of lurk. EVERYBODY's activity was way below acceptable. I don't see how you can have played in that game and then decided that being inactive is a good idea.

If that wasn't you, then disregard. My TL+ ran out and I don't feel like paying just to make sure

Yep, but that game was so bad... I might have been a town highlight because I posted something unlike 90% of the people. :D That was my first game ever actually. Or should I say "game".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#1356
On August 10 2013 04:13 Oberyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:11 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:01 Oberyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:14 Oberyn wrote:
Does anyone disagree with the Lords splitting the house kp between 2 targets with 3 kp a piece?


I disagree with this actually. I think it might have been mentioned elsewhere, but I forgot about it. It is probably better to shoot the same player in order until they flip, then move on to the next player on the list.

Does anyone disagree with this?

No I agree with that completely.


I feel like I don't really have an understanding of what your reads are. I'd really like to see some sort of list post from you or something. Or at least a couple suggestions who to shoot. Have you tried to push sol further in pms?



Player List:

1) Oatsmaster
Has given 6 townreads now, I was the last on because 'too dick and shit'. Nobody else finds him scummy but if I had the power I would shoot him.
8) s0lstice
A townread of mine. He keeps playing a calm game and doesn't try to escalate things in PMs. The only reason he is considered scum is because Chroma is tunneling him 24/7 and DandelIon is tunneling me while also saying s0lstice is scum. If it weren't for those 2 I am sure people would see s0lstice completely different.
10) Chromatically
Probably busy in PM land because he isn't doing too much in the thread except for tunneling s0lstice for voting him over Dandel. Which shouldn't be a crime but seen as common sense if you received PMs from DI.
11) Clarity_nl
I don't like Clarity softdefending Oats and DI. Clarity started by making a lot of useless post in the start but picked it up in his last 2 filter pages.
15) raynpelikoneet
Best player atm.
18) johnnywup
Started really strange with the 3P stuff and calling out Robert Baratheon. Didn't redeem himself after that. I would actually shoot this guy as well.
20) strongandbig
Started this game completely different than Sicilian and is therefore town in my book. Scumhunted after Clarity but I don't understand why he isn't going after Oats. It was Oats who said that there were no scum in their house, Clarity told Oats SnB his plan, so I don't understand why he only went after Clarity and not Oats.
24) Risen
I agreed with his opening post at the moment he made it. At least not afraid to call things out how they are, and not using "meta" to give everybody that is suspicious a townread.
_______________________
I left out the inactives that could obviously also use a bullet to the brain. 0 posters should be replaced instead of killed though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:39 GMT
#1360
And now I see that Chroma is also fine with killing me. Chroma and DI are just playing the same game but have chosen another member in the house to tunnel / FoS...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#1361
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:46 GMT
#1367
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:54 GMT
#1376
On August 10 2013 04:50 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?

You? And Solstice?

And who are your scumread?
Solstice and me....

So boring...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 21:21 GMT
#1450
On August 10 2013 06:09 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 05:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:38 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I read Crackaroni as the exact opposite compared to Chromatically, based on that post.
Why is that a non-contribution Chrom?

How is it a contribution? There's no scumhunting and doesn't help town at all. I would expect town to post the part on iamp and try to do some pressure, or jump on something in the thread, but listing your house and giving townreads is useless.

I gave what I thought about Iamp in the post and I pressured him in pm's as well, and how many first posts involve scumhunting? What about Koshi makes him your 2nd scum read?

Koshi has been posting, but doesn't seem like he cares about the lynch at all. He's halfheartedly pushed Oats, and that's it.

Kirby and Onegu have similar problems, posting without caring about the lynch and not contributing.

I have pushed Oats 3 times in this thread, and every time I get laughed at and everybody telling me that Oats is town because of meta. How can you say I half-heartedly pushed Oats?
On top of that I can't lynch anybody and my Lord thinks I am scum. Obviously I am not as passionate about the lynch as I normally am.

Who are you going to vote on? Because I would love you to go outside our House because I am not scum and s0lstice hasn't done anything scummy except vote for you... You are the only Lord that is actually trying to lynch his own servants.
Kill FT, Oats, Kirby or johnnywup. They are all "active" but completely useless, and with Oats or johnnywup you have a good chance to hit scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#1978
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#1984
On August 12 2013 00:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Does it matter now rayn?

Ok if we lynch yamato and hes town, can I choose who we lynch d3?

Now after s0lstice explaining to me what Oats his meta is I must say that Oats is playing like that on D2. However, above post gave me instant flashbacks to Cora in Titanic. Always seeing townreads and then suggesting a "sure" scumlynch. Rayn, Oats and Clarity know what I am talking about.

s0lstice is now confirmed town to me. In the night he tried to help me on how to play better, which is something that scum would never do in the way s0lstice did.

Sadly I do not have any new scumreads except that everybody who has been posting lately is probably town... I could point out to some inactives but that is just too easy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 18:54 GMT
#1985
On August 12 2013 03:50 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.

yeah I have a sneaking suspicion about yamato

Yeah, I was typing that and wanted to add scumlist after that but refreshed and saw what was happening. So I just hitted post...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:03 GMT
#1991
On August 12 2013 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.


Why is this unlucky?

With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him?

But that is just theorycrafting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:04 GMT
#1993
Also, can you just stop posting yamato? This is just silly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#2002
On August 12 2013 04:07 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.


Why is this unlucky?

With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him?

But that is just theorycrafting.

Why would scum shooting Xat mean that the second visitor was trying to protect him?

Scum is not going to kill him and going to send a guy to him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2010
Nice to see you 2 being friends again. House Baratheon so stronk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2048
Sickest comeback. Sickest.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2013 13:21 GMT
#2193
If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule.
Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game.

Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read...

EXCEPT
On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive.

I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue.

So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this.

On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa."
Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck.
yamato77- Thought he was town because of the fight early on but has been entirely apathetic in the game and is not intrested in catching scum at all. More intrested in complaining. could be scum

yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it.
In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better.
Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game...

PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched.
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