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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 14:26 GMT
#3958
On August 17 2013 23:23 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. DI is being a dick. He is claiming he knows someone shot Mocsta, but isn't saying whether he knows because he used the HP check, or because someone claimed vigi. I did the math on the Lord KP and there is only 1 possible shot on Mocsta: from Oats on N2. The only other potential KP that is missing is that Sharrant lied, or Risen lied. Neither seems likely at all to me.

I don't care who shot him. I care that it WASN'T scum. Can anybody guarantee that?


That depends. Do you believe xata, myself and DI to all be scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 14:30 GMT
#3960
Yeah unless he somehow got healed. Sucks that we have 1 less kp tonight but mocsta can die tonight.
This is your cue btw mocsta, even if you think you can't avoid getting killed by town, time to contribute with all your thoughts nicely condensed and useful etc etc
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 14:53 GMT
#3970
So we're not lynching johnny and mocsta because we're shooting them in the face.
We're not lynching snb because reasons, I guess.

Koshi took 1 kp by sharrant, but the thing is there's only so many nights of lord kp we have left, so maybe koshi is a good consideration for a lynch?

I still wanna lynch rayn. Notice how now that I've stopped tunneling him he has withdrawn both me and onegu from his scumlist despite claiming earlier he had scumreads on us for different reasons.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:01 GMT
#3976
On August 17 2013 23:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 23:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
So we're not lynching johnny and mocsta because we're shooting them in the face.
We're not lynching snb because reasons, I guess.

Koshi took 1 kp by sharrant, but the thing is there's only so many nights of lord kp we have left, so maybe koshi is a good consideration for a lynch?

I still wanna lynch rayn. Notice how now that I've stopped tunneling him he has withdrawn both me and onegu from his scumlist despite claiming earlier he had scumreads on us for different reasons.


Is there some reason other than speculation for why snb is town? rayn could be okay though. It's just that he's active and will ultimately dig his own grave if he keeps up (unlike snb).


No.. not really. Been flip flopping on snb all game.
I'll have to go back to pms and see if I can find something that makes it more or less likely that vivax/snb are both scum at some point.

I felt a little better about snb last night but then he didnt vote for me.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:02 GMT
#3978
On August 18 2013 00:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
clarity you claimed rb today right?


Nope
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:06 GMT
#3984
On August 18 2013 00:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 23:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah unless he somehow got healed. Sucks that we have 1 less kp tonight but mocsta can die tonight.
This is your cue btw mocsta, even if you think you can't avoid getting killed by town, time to contribute with all your thoughts nicely condensed and useful etc etc

Go fuck yourself


You don't wanna contribute?

Like, I'm not set on your lynch/shot yet... or I guess I wasn't...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:07 GMT
#3986
On August 18 2013 00:06 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +

From: Dandel Ion [ 7123 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: hello
Date: 8/17/13 21:29
can you give me the hp numbers plz?

i wanted to check my house anyways, twice. before and after a night.
if you gimme i can just use our check now and it'd save me sick amounts of time.

Original Message From Mocsta:
We used it last cycle to check your house.

What hp am I on. Btw?

Do we know who checked me?
I'm pretty proud to be shot as a late replacement.

Show nested quote +

I can get modkilled now.

U guys are a bunch of real dumb fucks.


What the fuck is this ragequite for no reason. zzzzzz
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:09 GMT
#3991
On August 18 2013 00:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
the pm's are real btw

100% copy-pasted


Alright well mocsta claimed town and is gonna get modkilled, that's great.
Fucking hell.

I don't even understand why.....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:11 GMT
#3994
Going forward with mocsta being confirmed town, does that make sharrant scum?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:14 GMT
#3999
On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.


Yeah but before you're pro-town you gotta be pro-game. This is dumb.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:18 GMT
#4001
Man, aside from my mini blowup on rayn I was enjoying this game.
Like, I didn't even mind ace being a dumbass as much.

But this just sucked my spirits.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:36 GMT
#4009
On August 18 2013 00:22 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 00:19 Sharrant wrote:
On August 18 2013 00:16 s0Lstice wrote:
well this is very interesting..

i have a strong urge to kill sharrant


Do tell.

And I'm saying it again, I'm pretty sure Johnny is town.


outside of your checks there is nothing to go on from you really aside from general PM niceties. you've been floating on all this town cred and doing nothing with it.


And you know, his supposed red check is soon to modconfirmed something, and I'll bet my left arm dollar it's town.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:38 GMT
#4011
All stags do is kill direwolves and themselves along with it SYMBOLISM
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:41 GMT
#4014
On August 18 2013 00:41 Onegu wrote:
Im guessing he flips miller


That would be hilarious.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:42 GMT
#4016
do non self-aware millers flip as non self-aware millers or as vt?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 15:47 GMT
#4019
Well done s0lstice. Whatever is in his post now, you get the credit.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:04 GMT
#4026
On August 18 2013 01:00 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.

Strategic self-modkill is right up there with ubsanctuoned editing of posts on the "cheating" list.


That's what I said. Only clevererer
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:07 GMT
#4031
But I didn't wanna lynch him, I wanted to shoot him.
rayn had a good argument for not shooting him though, and lynching him instead, but now we never get that discussion

What I'm trying to say is fuck you mocsta.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:12 GMT
#4035
On August 18 2013 01:10 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:02 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 18 2013 00:50 Chromatically wrote:
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.


Yes, I agree that it would be pretty outrageous from a scum Sharrant and town Acro point of view. I don't think it would be that crazy if they were both scum. Scum do what they think will make them win. Anyway, I don't really love pre-flip connections.

The bolded isn't entirely true. Risen voted and said the lynch was Vivax right around when I did, and I was at the very beginning of the wagon. He didn't push it all that hard, but to say he consolidated when it was clear isn't entirely right.

I'm not a fan of preflip connections either, but this isn't one. I don't see a reason for Sharrant to do this as scum either way, It's possible, but there's just no benefit.

That's true, I was going from memory on "lynch in the clear". The main point is that he had a large scumread on Vivax ("#1"), but he never pushed it in-thread, even when he was on the lynch. He voted SnB and Sharrant before actually voting Vivax.


Just like vivax had no reason to claim survivor jailkeeper.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:15 GMT
#4037
Anyone wanna go play some pool instead of play mafia or something? Drinks are on me
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