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Interesting. Now you suddenly think I'm scummy without any new information? Suddenly you don't believe I'm new anymore and the posts you use to prove it were available to you way earlier when you actively defended me and said I'm town.
WTF.
On July 31 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote:
JAT doesn't look new at all when I actually read his filter. Especially page 3 is pretty hardcore. This makes his first 2 posts look pretty bad.
Are you serious? That's the best you could come up with?
And yes I'm aware of the fact I didn't follow through with my hz/tofu case. That's because it was not up to date anymore and I would have needed to add the new information gained by all the claims and reactions tonight. When I tried to put it together I started to become unsure and waited and since my conversation with hz earlier I'm seriously doubting my read on him. The case was a mix of hz/tofu with a lot of connection between them and if I doubt the hz part of it I can't justificate the whole case as it is. Therefore I didn't post it.
Btw. like I said to oats before - do you want prove I'm new? I can give it to you easily.
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EBWOP: *justify ... man my english sucks.
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Come on man. At least put a bit of effort into this. If you avoid giving real reasons besides the so called scumslip would you mind explaining why exactly my mistake is only possible from a scum point of view? I really want to hear how you try to justify that.
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Koshi are you seriously asking for my opinion on my own posts? It's getting comical. Obviously my first posts were bad and I was wrong on top of that is that what you wanted to hear?
Whatever it's already late and there is no deadline today so I will finally get some sleep now.
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On July 31 2013 08:05 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 08:02 justanothertownie wrote:Come on man. At least put a bit of effort into this. If you avoid giving real reasons besides the so called scumslip would you mind explaining why exactly my mistake is only possible from a scum point of view? I really want to hear how you try to justify that. Oh I will. I'm not done with your case yet. I deliberately didn't post my scum cases yet because I knew I wouldn't have enough time to address them fully before I left for the bus. Since everyone knows where I stand on my scum cases, I figured I'd post information I've gathered on everyone else first.
Fair enough.
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On July 31 2013 09:49 Malongo wrote:
I am just going to stop posting because I feel like in another level of idiocy right now. Sorry to all players. For me it was an all pm game. Thats what I can say without interfering even more. I am going to cry in a corner now.
##Unvote.
##Vote: Malongo
This is so fucking stupid. If you thought it was a pm game - did you message someone? If no WHY?
If you are town this move is horrible. Why don't you even try to help us figure this shit out instead of doing that? If we lynch you and you are town I will rage.
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On July 31 2013 12:16 FirmTofu wrote:
My Response: Yes, if I think someone is scum, I'm going to try and throw all the dirt I have and pursue that lynch with fervor. That's what I do as town.
So, would you kindly post your case on me then?
Also, if rayne tried to direct the lynch into paper/you/me why would he start tunneling koshi so hard? Not saying you are wrong but at the moment I don't see a good reason for rayne to do so.
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Where I am standing right now:
I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.
If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.
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Hzs post in the conversation with rayn, xrz and me felt very genuine to me. An example for that is this post:
On July 31 2013 04:00 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also did not understand why did he assume the check is not real unless he knows Malongo is town. But apparently a lot of people fail at reading the OP so tha's kinda null-tell. :E Touche
It came pretty quickly after raynes post (I was f5ing hard at that time) and to me it feels scum hz wouldn't have come up with this that quickly. He immedeatly assumed rayne meant to attack his claim with this post and I think scum-hz would have read the op before fakeclaiming. No hard evidence but it seems very genuine to me.
I'm at work as always at this time of the day so my time is limited. If you want me to post reads tell me about which player you want to hear.
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Why did you pick xrz exactly... damn.
I didn't know how to read this guy since the very beginning of the game that's also the reason why I didn't comment on him that much as of yet.
Ok, I will try to take a closer look at him but this will take some time as I only have a few minutes to play ever so often.
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On July 31 2013 21:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:
I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.
If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second. But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?
Why would you do it as town?
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As scum you would do it to not get lynched obviously.
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As town you don't want to get lynched too, but you will try to make sure scum is and not anybody else besides you.
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Ok, I read xrzs filter. I'm leaning town on him. Many things he say make sense. If he is scum he is hiding this really good.
For now the best lynch is koshi in my eyes.
##Vote: Koshi
I will be at a meeting from now on and not be able to follow the game or post. I will be back before the deadline (I hope several hours before).
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I'm back.
On August 01 2013 02:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
how can one person make the game so fucking unenjoyable
QFT.
On August 01 2013 03:19 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 03:12 Stutters695 wrote:On August 01 2013 02:55 hzflank wrote:On August 01 2013 02:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Assumption. I plan for the worst, and a successful janitor kill practically ends us if we have Mal& Oats alive in LYLO. How do you know that Mal and Oats are town? :p Oats feels town, I don't want to lynch him. Unfortunately this is how he plays town. If Mal is somehow town also we're royally fucked. I was joking when I asked that as I did not really think it could be a scum-slip. Now I am seriously concerned though. Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:48 Stutters695 wrote:
if we have Mal& Oats alive in LYLO. The first time you implied: I feel like Mal is town The second time you implied: I feel like Mal is scum Any third parties have thoughts on this?
I think you might over interpret this. I could imagine me posting like that if I'm not sure about Malongo. He is right it would be a policy lynch.
So, hz/clarity. If you are right then we should lynch vayne the next day if he doesn't get nightkilled, yes? If we don't get really different new information.
On August 01 2013 04:35 FirmTofu wrote:
Guys, we need to start consolidating if we want a lynch to happen today. No lynch is not an option. Since some people are not entirely convinced about rayn, can you guys look over JAT an stutters so we can actually lynch scum? Thanks.
Seriously man. You took your time to make that rayn case and all but you still prefer to lynch me. WHERE IS THE CASE ON ME? Am I blind or did you just not post anything about me apart from saying "yeah totes scum lynch please"?
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So the "scumslip" is your only reason? Then it wouldn't be to much of a task to explain why exactly you think it is a scum slip in the first place like you promised before, is it?
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SINCE WHEN IS MAKING A MISTAKE ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE?!?!
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Why would town not make that mistake? Do you even have any reason for this?
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On August 01 2013 05:03 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 04:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
here's something to think about hz
If rayn is the one leading scum right now ( which I think he is)
He said to have the doctor on vivax, so he thought he was the most dangerous/important player at the time.
Fast forward and vivax died that night. He then gave the fake "why wasn't doc on vivax!!" anger
that along with his questionable play this game leads me to believe he is scum, the subconscious speaks the truest! Before I start Vayne, lets make it clear that I do not fully trust you as I do Clarity. I have no idea whether you trust me. If you think that Rayn is scum and directed the NK (if he were scum then he would be the one making those decisions) then the simple answer is that he thought the most likely Doctor to save Vivax was Clarity, so he roleblocked Clarity. If Rayn is scum then when he directed the doctor the only good reason to do so was in an attempt to figure out who the doc was so that they could roleblock or shoot them.
How would that work? I don't get it.
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On August 01 2013 05:12 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 01 2013 05:03 hzflank wrote:On August 01 2013 04:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
here's something to think about hz
If rayn is the one leading scum right now ( which I think he is)
He said to have the doctor on vivax, so he thought he was the most dangerous/important player at the time.
Fast forward and vivax died that night. He then gave the fake "why wasn't doc on vivax!!" anger
that along with his questionable play this game leads me to believe he is scum, the subconscious speaks the truest! Before I start Vayne, lets make it clear that I do not fully trust you as I do Clarity. I have no idea whether you trust me. If you think that Rayn is scum and directed the NK (if he were scum then he would be the one making those decisions) then the simple answer is that he thought the most likely Doctor to save Vivax was Clarity, so he roleblocked Clarity. If Rayn is scum then when he directed the doctor the only good reason to do so was in an attempt to figure out who the doc was so that they could roleblock or shoot them. How would that work? I don't get it. I am not sure. When I played scum sometimes I was talk about blue roles and look for how people responded. I always took notice to everything said about roles in an attempt to figure out the blues. Once I got a shortlist of possible blues, I went well if this guy is that role then he will probably target player X, etc. It's all assumptions but I think it is better to attempt to blue hunt (as scum) and to just rng your roleblock.
Ah, ok. Thought you might have definite reasoning I can't see. But you know how very wrong you were as scum trying to predict blue roles.
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