Also, CJS filter is really good. I believe that he is actually such a good player that he can see through the bullshit as opposed to having more information as scum player.

Koshi

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August 05 2013 10:50 GMT

#4319

On August 03 2013 05:04 hzflank wrote:
If Exar is not scum:

Oats
Clarity
CJS
Rayn
Stutters
hzflank
Koshi
Tofu
JAT
Exar

I am surprised that Koshi, Tofu and JAT do not think that Exar is likely scum.

Just look at that shit. Look at it. Stutters is a null read. This post was made by hz on his filter page 22. The next 4 pages hz makes a million fucking scumteams and Stutters is not in a single one. How the fuck does something like that happens.

This post is made on page 26 of his filter. In the 80 posts between my first quote and the post below Stutters is not mentioned.

On August 04 2013 00:14 hzflank wrote:
I agree that lynching XRZ is the safest play. I am just having a hard time for 2 reasons: I think Clarity is likely town and I cannot understand why scum-XRZ unclaimed when he did.

The three likely scum-team would be:

XRZ
Cora
Clarity

XRZ
FT
Koshi

FT
Koshi
JAT

As scum XRZ would not of claimed cop unless either Cora or FT were scum. I am doubting that Stutters and FT are both scum.

I suppose it could be Stutters, Koshi and JAT, but I see that as less likely.

Therefore we also get a lot of information from lynching FT or Koshi. And FT just really looks like scum.

Also, if you count the fourth potential scum team then Koshi is on 3 out of 4, so he might be a good lynch.

And soooo much energy that hzflank puts is saying he is rereading filters to find that little bit of evidence why XRZ might have copclaimed as town... But then eventually it also comes down that XRZ flipping town on this lynch might not be the worst thing ever.... It's just bad.

But I do know we are not lynching hz... There is so much sloppy play here. And Stutters and JAT are just hiding and hiding and hiding.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 10:55 GMT

#4321

There is really not much I can say.
FT is going to be town.
Rayn is going to be town. But lol. just lol.
Stutters is going to be scum, hiding in this game only to come out to trow some shit at FT and validate his vote on XRZ.
JAT is going to be scum. Tofu case is pretty good. On top of that this guy keeps promising making cases but never does. Probably afraid after those 2 horrible first cases he posted.
hz is going to be the mastermind. well played by him. but I could have caught you if I didn't fuck up in the start.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 11:13 GMT

#4323

On August 05 2013 19:52 Oatsmaster wrote:

Show nested quote +

explain this bit.

The only problem I have with Cora is his change in opinion about FT. I don't see where that happened. In the early game he was defending FT and didn't say he was scum, even in the Malongo lynch Cora was still believing that FT was town.

But Cora has always found me scummy. So him voting me is normal, hell, it might even be why he thinks FT is scummy now.

Cora believed that Malongo was scum after his case, he didn't want to go for FT and sticked to that. Same with XRZ. Both times he was right (I am saying FT is town) and Cora should not been seen as scum for being right.

On August 05 2013 00:58 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

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I just stated my "scumteam"...

Koshi/JAT/Stutters/Malongo

That's actually a perfect scumteam. Maybe he is the scumleader and just named his fellow 3 scummies and is going to push me for the win, but I don't think that is true. Maybe the defense of XRZ was done to make this post

On August 05 2013 10:34 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Really guys...after the XRZ flip are you NOT going to listen to me? Come on.

But I still don't think so.

Look, if we can lynch JAT/Stutters first and then we got to pick between Cora/hz/Koshi then I am still going for hz.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 11:14 GMT

#4324

On August 05 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you mean by 'going to be'?
also

Show nested quote +

if he's scum, didnt you catch him?

What are you even saying in that paragraph?

I am going to get lynched and the game is over. That's what I am saying. I am already searching the scumteam for endgame cred.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 11:48 GMT

#4326

Between cora/hz/rayn I am certain that 1 is scum. That means that out of these 3, there are 2 towns that want to lynch me.

2 towns + 3 scums = bye Koshi.

On top of that FT will consolidate on me if it is 4/3 because I was magically able to convince either rayn/cora...

lol it's over.

Rayn wont like it that I am using "fear" as a motivator for not voting me but I know we are going to lose and it's sad.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 11:49 GMT

#4327

EDIT
On top of that FT will consolidate on me if it is 4/3 in case I was magically able to convince either rayn/cora...

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 12:06 GMT

#4329

Yeah, I have read his filter, but it's just a bad filter. There is nothing scummy especially if people thing FT is scum. But I ll read it again and make a case. Got to work now for a while.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 12:51 GMT

#4332

Your first scumread was Paper. You made 1 offensive case this game and that was it. You sticked your vote permantly on him. You are right that you had FT as town for the entire game. Your second post was saying you thought FT was town.

1) You are fucking lying! You said Paper his reads weren't good and you asked more information on 3 different town reads (vayne, Koshi, Oats) off him. You sticked your vote on Paper for this reason and ever took it off. This looked like a pressure vote but you actaully never pressured him beyond this point.

2) Koshi just realized here that his play was fucking awful up until this point. Getting heat was the reason for me to actually filter dive you and see that people were right to call you scummy. You indeed just ad homined me and just like that time you are again not defending the points against yourself but just stating I am scum/FT is scum. ezpz

3) meh, I can see this being true.

4) I don't really remember why you actually made that post. Of course you weren't going to die. Did somebody claim that? How come that you make so many posts promising things in the future? Here you say that your ideas will be influanced by the nightkill, in other posts you promise cases, but in the end you never deliver.

Saying that "if I was scum I wouldn't have done that" is an extremely bad excuse. You always make posts that you prefered you didn't make as town/scum/3rd party. Especially as an anti town party you are going to say I wouldn't have done that because you know what you should have done in that anti town mindsset.

You are scum JAT. Stop defending and start making cases on me / Tofu. You haven't done any scumhunting in the past 100 hours. It's pathetic that I will get lynched over somebody like you.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:03 GMT

#4333

JAT tell me when you have 30 mins time to play this game.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:37 GMT

#4335

Ok sure. Let's go for a big question then. Why am I scum?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:40 GMT

#4336

Small question: Why haven't you made cases on any of your scumreads through this game? You keep promising that but you never do. You just trow out names that are on your scumlist. But you never say why.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:40 GMT

#4337

Small question:
Do you like hzflank?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:43 GMT

#4338

feel free to answer the small question fast.

Small question:
Why would I bother buddying both Malongo and FirmTofu as scumteam? I could understand FirmTofu because our asses are on the line atm (lol) but why do it with Malongo?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:44 GMT

#4339

Small question;

When did you put FT as a scumread. Why?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 13:51 GMT

#4341

On August 05 2013 22:47 Stutters695 wrote:

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Nah dawg, FT, you and JAT. In that order. Also, I don't "hide" as scum, my posting is pretty standard regardless of alignment. Just depends on how busy I am.

All those 1 liners towards a pretty town FT during day 1 & day 2 were not standard Stutters.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 05 2013 14:59 GMT

#4346

Yeah, I am out of ammo. It's what it is. It looks bad and that's that. A lot of my scumminess is based on association and a bad first day / early day 2. Lessons learned.