• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:50
CET 15:50
KST 23:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Ghostwriting Services for Authors and Businesses The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1926 users

Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 21

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 31 Next All
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:21 GMT
#4104
On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town?
Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular)
You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point

Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait.

I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are.


Wait.

Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town?

sorry I should have said "confirmed townies"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:22 GMT
#4105
On August 05 2013 05:18 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town?
Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular)
You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point

Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait.

I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are.


Wait.

Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town?


I actually laughed out loud. Good job

Lets try to not let Koshi mess the thread up. In particular I am really trying to see if Stutters and FT are likely scum together. I can see either of them being scum individually, but D2 makes it look like they are not both scum.

Mess up the thread????

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah Mr associations everywhere. You did a hell of a good job Day 3.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:23 GMT
#4106
I know 1 thing.

Mr 37 pages and Mr 28 pages are scum or horrible town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:33 GMT
#4111
Ugh..... I don't know. I would say yes, but I have no real proof. Like hard evidence that he is.

But where is that case on me? I have played a perfect town day 3. Sure I sheeped our 2 "confirmed towns" but I was there to discuss the XRZ lynch. But eventually I followed rayn and hz. I was not in a position to make a strong case on somebody else (because I do not know who is scum) and then to be wrong and get lynched.

But now that XRZ flipped town, do NOT play like yesterday. I want that everybody looks at everybody and then makes a decision. If rayn plans on tunneling me now for 48 hours and hz plans on making association cases for when I die and flip red. Then you guys are fucking stupid.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:34 GMT
#4112
On August 05 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a difference between Koshi´s posts now and my/hz´s posts on D3. JAT can you tell me what that difference is?
Same can be asked from Stutters/FT.

Rayn, yay for you to look at the worst in my posts and be wrong once again. So sad.

You do realize you were wrong about XRZ right? You are so bad for this town. So unbelievable bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:35 GMT
#4113
On August 05 2013 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Besides the fact that there is no intention to solve the game behind Koshi's posts?

True.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:39 GMT
#4115
Well, my intention is to make you all look at rayn and hz again. I know that some attempted to do so, sadly enough those people were voting on me and that made me unwilling to join them. That and the fact that I was stroking rayn, hz their cocks myself.

I realize that now. But I am not going to go down as easily as XRZ. Fuck that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:40 GMT
#4117
On August 05 2013 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh it doesn´t really matter at this point. But yes, you are right. On top of that those posts are not trying to make people convinced of someone being mafia. They scream fear and survival instead of solving the game as you said.

It´s really hard to tell who is mafia amongst FT/Stutters/JAT/Koshi. Not a single one of those people is asking questions from each other. One of them is town and should be trying to figure out a way to tell the other people why the three other guys are mafia. That cannot be accomplished unless you make mafia question each other and point out why the interactions are fake.

Could the guy who amongst them is town start doing that? I can´t possibly gain anything by asking anything from you four. Because you can just say "i think the three other are scum" and i can´t do anything other than to accept that as a town-tell or a null-tell. It leads me nowhere any more. I can only make conclusions from how you interact with each other and that has not happened after N2.

Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:41 GMT
#4118
On August 05 2013 05:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't even know what to say. If Koshi is town this is really sad.

"I don't know who scum are so I make no attempt to find scum and just sheep you. You are really shit for town btw!"

Being shit for town comes after the flip.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:41 GMT
#4119
On August 05 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh it doesn´t really matter at this point. But yes, you are right. On top of that those posts are not trying to make people convinced of someone being mafia. They scream fear and survival instead of solving the game as you said.

It´s really hard to tell who is mafia amongst FT/Stutters/JAT/Koshi. Not a single one of those people is asking questions from each other. One of them is town and should be trying to figure out a way to tell the other people why the three other guys are mafia. That cannot be accomplished unless you make mafia question each other and point out why the interactions are fake.

Could the guy who amongst them is town start doing that? I can´t possibly gain anything by asking anything from you four. Because you can just say "i think the three other are scum" and i can´t do anything other than to accept that as a town-tell or a null-tell. It leads me nowhere any more. I can only make conclusions from how you interact with each other and that has not happened after N2.

Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today.

are = and
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#4123
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#4126
On August 05 2013 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone.
Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies).

Why am I scum? Tell me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4128
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?

It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it.

Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there.
I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4129
On August 05 2013 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah it's gonna be me or rayn fo sho

Possible. I could imagine CJS being killed too.

Koshi, I think everyone gets that you don't like rayns and hzs play by now. Would you stop it now?

I will.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:59 GMT
#4132
Also, I don't believe FT is scum. At least he looks through the bullshit. I don't see scum doing that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#4134
On August 05 2013 05:58 hzflank wrote:
Can we read anything new into this now that we know Malongo was scum?

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real):
hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats.
Details tomorrow.

Can you stop fucking asking us questions and answer them yourself. Let us think about your ideas.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#4138
On August 05 2013 06:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?

It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it.

Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there.
I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.


Yes it was disruptive in a way.
But are you trying to say you do not see townies trying to make an effort in the both of them?
Do you think a scum hz, who is pretty confirmed before he started pushing xrz, would put all that effort into all of the association stuff just to bury a discussion about the xrz lynch, which was pretty much going to happen anyway once he made some very valid points.

I don't get you.

Didn't I fucking tell you that is what hz does? Read my fucking case on him day 1. The case where I prove that he was thinking that me and Paper were both scum and where he was thinking I knew Paper was town on the same moment.

Hzflank plays perfect like scum. Him playing like this to completely fuck us up is what he does. ffs. Too bad there is no fucking SK to kill the guy in this gamen because he is confirmed town as scum..........
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:07 GMT
#4140
On August 05 2013 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can tell you that you should be arguing with your scumreads, ask them specific questions about your other scumreads. You should already know what you expect them to answer. As mafia it´s often hard to keep your story straight and town would not win these games if mafia didn´t fuck up or if mafia did always act naturally towards each other. Most mafia players can´t do that, and any mafia player can´t do that all of the time. That´s what exposes them and that´s how you get out of a bad spot if people think you are mafia.

The one of you four who is town is our best (and pretty much only) chance of winning by starting discussion between these four people. For me/hz/Clarity/Cora/Oats it is incredibly hard to tell the difference between you all because you have not been interacting with each other for a long time.

You fucking know that you have made 740 posts this game? 500 must be about how FT and XRZ are scum. And only that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:09 GMT
#4141
Ok. So everybody here thinks FT is scum. Tell me why please.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:16 GMT
#4144
As far as I see it:
1) First pages of FT filter is trying to interact with everybody to find out who scum is. It looks perfectly fine as a town player to do this.
2) From page 4-5 there are some lists that make sense and explain his thoughts. It looks really good and possible.
3) Page 6 he completely changed his ideas based on the flip. He gets a lot of flak for it but it makes perfect sense once more.
4) Page 7/8 he again gives his reads on all people.
5) 9-... Him defending himself in the lynch
6) Didn't bother with this on Day 3. Tried to read the game and asked some silly questions. Decided to vote XRZ and that is that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Platinum Heroes Events
12:00
PSC2L Finals - Playoffs
Nicoract vs Creator
RotterdaM914
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 914
DivinesiaTV 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44205
Shuttle 2068
GuemChi 1422
Sea 1001
EffOrt 866
Horang2 783
Stork 698
Soma 589
Jaedong 570
Snow 455
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 416
actioN 293
hero 242
Last 172
Sharp 154
Barracks 130
Zeus 120
sorry 97
ToSsGirL 57
Aegong 49
Leta 48
Sea.KH 48
JYJ 26
ajuk12(nOOB) 26
Rock 23
HiyA 16
Sexy 16
scan(afreeca) 14
yabsab 13
GoRush 11
Shine 10
Noble 7
Dota 2
syndereN1017
XcaliburYe596
Fuzer 309
febbydoto18
League of Legends
C9.Mang0358
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor89
Other Games
Grubby4058
Gorgc3640
B2W.Neo1741
Pyrionflax679
DeMusliM511
hiko388
Hui .336
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc252
• Adnapsc2 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV404
Upcoming Events
OSC
22h 10m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 12h
OSC
1d 21h
IPSL
1d 23h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.