On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Wait.
Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town?
Wait.
Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town?
sorry I should have said "confirmed townies"
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:21 GMT
#4104
On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote: On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote: Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town? Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular) You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait. I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are. Wait. Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town? sorry I should have said "confirmed townies" | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:22 GMT
#4105
On August 05 2013 05:18 hzflank wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote: On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote: On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote: Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town? Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular) You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait. I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are. Wait. Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town? I actually laughed out loud. Good job ![]() Lets try to not let Koshi mess the thread up. In particular I am really trying to see if Stutters and FT are likely scum together. I can see either of them being scum individually, but D2 makes it look like they are not both scum. Mess up the thread???? HAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Mr associations everywhere. You did a hell of a good job Day 3. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:23 GMT
#4106
Mr 37 pages and Mr 28 pages are scum or horrible town. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:33 GMT
#4111
But where is that case on me? I have played a perfect town day 3. Sure I sheeped our 2 "confirmed towns" but I was there to discuss the XRZ lynch. But eventually I followed rayn and hz. I was not in a position to make a strong case on somebody else (because I do not know who is scum) and then to be wrong and get lynched. But now that XRZ flipped town, do NOT play like yesterday. I want that everybody looks at everybody and then makes a decision. If rayn plans on tunneling me now for 48 hours and hz plans on making association cases for when I die and flip red. Then you guys are fucking stupid. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:34 GMT
#4112
On August 05 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is a difference between Koshi´s posts now and my/hz´s posts on D3. JAT can you tell me what that difference is? Same can be asked from Stutters/FT. Rayn, yay for you to look at the worst in my posts and be wrong once again. So sad. You do realize you were wrong about XRZ right? You are so bad for this town. So unbelievable bad. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:35 GMT
#4113
On August 05 2013 05:32 justanothertownie wrote: Besides the fact that there is no intention to solve the game behind Koshi's posts? True. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:39 GMT
#4115
I realize that now. But I am not going to go down as easily as XRZ. Fuck that. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:40 GMT
#4117
On August 05 2013 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahh it doesn´t really matter at this point. But yes, you are right. On top of that those posts are not trying to make people convinced of someone being mafia. They scream fear and survival instead of solving the game as you said. It´s really hard to tell who is mafia amongst FT/Stutters/JAT/Koshi. Not a single one of those people is asking questions from each other. One of them is town and should be trying to figure out a way to tell the other people why the three other guys are mafia. That cannot be accomplished unless you make mafia question each other and point out why the interactions are fake. Could the guy who amongst them is town start doing that? I can´t possibly gain anything by asking anything from you four. Because you can just say "i think the three other are scum" and i can´t do anything other than to accept that as a town-tell or a null-tell. It leads me nowhere any more. I can only make conclusions from how you interact with each other and that has not happened after N2. Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:41 GMT
#4118
On August 05 2013 05:39 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't even know what to say. If Koshi is town this is really sad. "I don't know who scum are so I make no attempt to find scum and just sheep you. You are really shit for town btw!" Being shit for town comes after the flip. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:41 GMT
#4119
On August 05 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2013 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahh it doesn´t really matter at this point. But yes, you are right. On top of that those posts are not trying to make people convinced of someone being mafia. They scream fear and survival instead of solving the game as you said. It´s really hard to tell who is mafia amongst FT/Stutters/JAT/Koshi. Not a single one of those people is asking questions from each other. One of them is town and should be trying to figure out a way to tell the other people why the three other guys are mafia. That cannot be accomplished unless you make mafia question each other and point out why the interactions are fake. Could the guy who amongst them is town start doing that? I can´t possibly gain anything by asking anything from you four. Because you can just say "i think the three other are scum" and i can´t do anything other than to accept that as a town-tell or a null-tell. It leads me nowhere any more. I can only make conclusions from how you interact with each other and that has not happened after N2. Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today. are = and | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#4123
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: @Koshi You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3? I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that. What bad is: -Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?) -Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground. THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#4126
On August 05 2013 05:46 justanothertownie wrote: I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone. Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies). Why am I scum? Tell me. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4128
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote: On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: @Koshi You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3? I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that. What bad is: -Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?) -Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground. THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play. If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it? It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it. Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there. I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4129
On August 05 2013 05:54 justanothertownie wrote: Possible. I could imagine CJS being killed too. Koshi, I think everyone gets that you don't like rayns and hzs play by now. Would you stop it now? I will. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:59 GMT
#4132
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#4134
On August 05 2013 05:58 hzflank wrote: Can we read anything new into this now that we know Malongo was scum? Show nested quote + On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real): hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats. Details tomorrow. Can you stop fucking asking us questions and answer them yourself. Let us think about your ideas. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#4138
On August 05 2013 06:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote: On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote: On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: @Koshi You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3? I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that. What bad is: -Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?) -Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground. THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play. If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it? It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it. Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there. I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me. Yes it was disruptive in a way. But are you trying to say you do not see townies trying to make an effort in the both of them? Do you think a scum hz, who is pretty confirmed before he started pushing xrz, would put all that effort into all of the association stuff just to bury a discussion about the xrz lynch, which was pretty much going to happen anyway once he made some very valid points. I don't get you. Didn't I fucking tell you that is what hz does? Read my fucking case on him day 1. The case where I prove that he was thinking that me and Paper were both scum and where he was thinking I knew Paper was town on the same moment. Hzflank plays perfect like scum. Him playing like this to completely fuck us up is what he does. ffs. Too bad there is no fucking SK to kill the guy in this gamen because he is confirmed town as scum.......... | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:07 GMT
#4140
On August 05 2013 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can tell you that you should be arguing with your scumreads, ask them specific questions about your other scumreads. You should already know what you expect them to answer. As mafia it´s often hard to keep your story straight and town would not win these games if mafia didn´t fuck up or if mafia did always act naturally towards each other. Most mafia players can´t do that, and any mafia player can´t do that all of the time. That´s what exposes them and that´s how you get out of a bad spot if people think you are mafia. The one of you four who is town is our best (and pretty much only) chance of winning by starting discussion between these four people. For me/hz/Clarity/Cora/Oats it is incredibly hard to tell the difference between you all because you have not been interacting with each other for a long time. You fucking know that you have made 740 posts this game? 500 must be about how FT and XRZ are scum. And only that. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:09 GMT
#4141
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:16 GMT
#4144
1) First pages of FT filter is trying to interact with everybody to find out who scum is. It looks perfectly fine as a town player to do this. 2) From page 4-5 there are some lists that make sense and explain his thoughts. It looks really good and possible. 3) Page 6 he completely changed his ideas based on the flip. He gets a lot of flak for it but it makes perfect sense once more. 4) Page 7/8 he again gives his reads on all people. 5) 9-... Him defending himself in the lynch 6) Didn't bother with this on Day 3. Tried to read the game and asked some silly questions. Decided to vote XRZ and that is that. | ||
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