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On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.
I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)
On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up. AND YOU HAVENT. Now either back it up or take it back.
I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.
Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.
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On August 05 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question. I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up. AND YOU HAVENT. Now either back it up or take it back. I have. If you refuse to read that's fine. Do you think I'm town? You should. Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not. Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not. Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead?
Yep, true. Was hoping someone who I didn't consider confirmed town would answer honestly 
On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible. If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together? I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam. If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at: JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out. Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4. This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this. Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?
If you think he's scum you shouldn't try to convince him that he's scum. 
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On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple. If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.
lol.
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On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple. If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose. Did you really just say this Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.
Pretty sure the consensus was to lynch Koshi.
Are you shaking in your little scum booties?
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Allow me to waste a post so that you will post what you should have in the first place.
QUOTE]On August 05 2013 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, JAT is probably town. Can you see why?[/QUOTE]
No. Why?
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Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town?
Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular)
You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point
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On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town?
Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular)
You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait. I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are.
Wait.
Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town?
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On August 05 2013 05:23 Koshi wrote:
I know 1 thing.
Mr 37 pages and Mr 28 pages are scum or horrible town.
So your idea of being a good townie is to do nothing, then fling shit at the people who did stuff but ended up being wrong.
Yes, the association stuff by hz got kinda out of control and rayn was just spamming the same two things over and over but it doesn't make either of them scum.
So what is your point? Do you believe hz is scum or not?
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I don't even know what to say. If Koshi is town this is really sad.
"I don't know who scum are so I make no attempt to find scum and just sheep you. You are really shit for town btw!"
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Yeah it's gonna be me or rayn fo sho
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On August 05 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi
You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3? I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that. What bad is: -Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground. THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play. If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it? It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it. Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there. I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.
Yes it was disruptive in a way.
But are you trying to say you do not see townies trying to make an effort in the both of them?
Do you think a scum hz, who is pretty confirmed before he started pushing xrz, would put all that effort into all of the association stuff just to bury a discussion about the xrz lynch, which was pretty much going to happen anyway once he made some very valid points.
I don't get you.
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rayn you're doing that thing again. Where you say the exact same thing multiple times, phrased differently.
I thought you had a really good point the first time around and agreed with everything in that post.
*pat pat*
It's okay.
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On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
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Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see. To make it more clear: HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)
They can easily roleblock rayn and keep him alive.
How does that change the alignment of rayn oats and hz?
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God I hope scum kill me.
Koshi thinks rayn and hz are both scum.
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Like, if there was ever a time to say "too dumb for scum".....
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On August 05 2013 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Clarity. You also instantly believed in a fake XRZ claim. Why?
Because I'm scum with rayn and hz.
All we did day 3 was circlejerk eachother and we just laughed and laughed in the scum qt.
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On August 05 2013 07:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 07:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 05 2013 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Clarity. You also instantly believed in a fake XRZ claim. Why? Because I'm scum with rayn and hz. All we did day 3 was circlejerk eachother and we just laughed and laughed in the scum qt. No, my point is. Vayne is on Malongo and switches to XRZ because he claimed cop over rayn. Rayn does not believe Malongo is scum but as cop instantly believes XRZ his redcheck on Malongo. Is that not strange?
Pretty sure rayn called me an idiot (correctly) for voting the claimed cop over the claimed cop's red check, because at worst it's a 1 for 1 (unless ofcourse its town faking a red check LOL)
I don't recall him immediately believing the claim, as much as I remember him just making logical sense in the situation.
You're saying scum have a roleblocker, but town has no cop or other powerrole that can be blocked?
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By the way Koshi
On August 05 2013 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you are stupid Koshi and that is so horribly wrong and idiotic i am not even going say anything about it.
I hope my sanity check reveals i am a vigilante so i can shoot you in the face.
This is called sarcasm, not to be taken literally.
I wanna make it clear, the 2nd bit is sarcasm
No the first
I'm pretty sure he means the first part.
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I'm lost for words really. I dunno
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