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On July 28 2013 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway about Vayne, he is playing this game totally different from his sole scumgame on site, serious play there, got into a egobitch fight with marv and yeah. None of that here. At all. Meta says he aint scum.
Of course, he might just be really good and faking the bullshit but I dont see why he needs to draw attention to himself when he can play perfectly competent town when he rolls scum.
Again you defend Vayne for some meta bullshit.
My current lynchpool
5. raynpelikoneet
7. Malongo
8. VayneAuthority
9. Stutters695
13. justanothertownie
I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day:
hzflank
clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
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On July 28 2013 02:30 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 23:53 exarezee wrote:On July 27 2013 23:48 hzflank wrote:On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.
I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.
Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum. Because scum want two town wagons on day 1. Town only wants to find one scum as the chance of actually finding multiple scum on day 1 is very slim. If a scum member is under pressure and cannot deal with it alone then the simplest and easiest thing for the scum team to do is to ignore that person and secure two other lynch candidates. If town start saying that we want to lynch two specific people then it makes it too easy for scum to steer us into a mislynch without being noticed. If you think that they are both scum that is fine, but don't do anything resembling pushing for lynches on them both at the same time. You're exactly right. Scum would ideally want two town wagons Day 1. That's why we wagon paper and tofu......you really think they are town/town with their interactions with me day 1? WTF? Bolded and big'd obvious scumslip. How did no one catch this?
That looks pretty okish. He meant that the town/town wagon hz spoke of is clearly not a town/town wagon at all. He just says that he is scum because he is pushing that wagon.
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I this point I would like to continue on day 2 with the people actively posting in this thread. Only one guy looking bad over the entire line. But I don't think he is scum anymore.
Still around 30 hours left to see some posts from the inactives.
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On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie? Give me some time yo. Well, my filter isn't exactly huge.... I would like to repeat my earlier request: Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad? Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...
Oh I missed that question earlier.
I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.
I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.
I am actually leaning town on you now.
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On July 28 2013 17:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Malongo are you serious right now? Koshi, + Show Spoiler +do you have any scumreads at all? Other then saying that JAtownie "looks bad" I don't really see it. And even this accusation of him looking bad is after Oats posted a giant case on him.... On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie
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You only give your reasons for suspecting him of being scum after you have a townread on him. On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie? Give me some time yo. Well, my filter isn't exactly huge.... I would like to repeat my earlier request: On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad? Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all... Oh I missed that question earlier. I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore. I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases. I am actually leaning town on you now. Other than this, you've posted your "willing to lynch" lists but they have basically been JAtownie and a bunch of lurkers/non-posters.... and vayne who is trolling. Who do you currently want to lynch?
In one of my first games I didn't know what to do so I started out with making 2 cases, both cases were horrible because I was new to the game, and I received a decent amount of flak for it. But I continued playing trying to learn and post 1 liners to help town. I see the same in JAT currently.
My fav lynch target can be found in the lists I make and will make.
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On July 28 2013 18:58 hzflank wrote:
So what is up with the Oats + Paper + Vayne circle jerk? These guys have all acted like the have strong town reads throughout the entire game and I would go as far as to say it looks like they may have been carefully defending each other throughout the entire game.
Can anyone other than Oats and Vayne give me a good reason to move my vote off of Paper?
/agreed
It's strange.
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On July 28 2013 23:17 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 23:11 Koshi wrote:On July 28 2013 17:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Malongo are you serious right now? Koshi, + Show Spoiler +do you have any scumreads at all? Other then saying that JAtownie "looks bad" I don't really see it. And even this accusation of him looking bad is after Oats posted a giant case on him.... On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie
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You only give your reasons for suspecting him of being scum after you have a townread on him. On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie? Give me some time yo. Well, my filter isn't exactly huge.... I would like to repeat my earlier request: On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad? Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all... Oh I missed that question earlier. I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore. I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases. I am actually leaning town on you now. Other than this, you've posted your "willing to lynch" lists but they have basically been JAtownie and a bunch of lurkers/non-posters.... and vayne who is trolling. Who do you currently want to lynch? In one of my first games I didn't know what to do so I started out with making 2 cases, both cases were horrible because I was new to the game, and I received a decent amount of flak for it. But I continued playing trying to learn and post 1 liners to help town. I see the same in JAT currently. My fav lynch target can be found in the lists I make and will make. Okay, and that's cute and innocent and stuff but being wrong does not a scum make. Go scumhunt, find scum. Making a list of 5 people which includes 4 lurkers and the current thread sentiment target, and then taking back the suspicion on the current thread sentiment target, does not make for a useful list. Who do you currently want to lynch, and why? One name, couple of reasons. C'mon
My current lynchpool:
raynpelikoneet
Malongo
VayneAuthority
Stutters695
I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day:
hzflank
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On July 28 2013 23:43 Clarity_nl wrote:I kinda want to lynch Koshi now. I can't explain him not giving a read with reasons as town, but I can't explain it if he's scum either. Doesn't make sense as either alignment = scum. Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 23:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Don't you feel he's scared that im vig or something and will shoot him oats? He doesnt actually give a good reason for lynching me. Haha.
I dont know if hes scared scum or town though What's this random mention of vigi? If you were vigi (which is town only) why would you shoot someone trying to lynch you, or why would the person trying to lynch you be afraid of that. I'm confused.
Here is a game for you with hzflank as scum.
The guy can make a million posts, make sense and still be scum.
I see him playing the same game here, but this time I don't agree with his case. But I am not saying he is scum, he can be town, I just put him under investigation.
I have read everybody his posts. I do not find somebody lynchworthy for Day 1. That's how I feel, if you don't like it. Bad fucking luck.
Also, I am waiting on Vivax to name the scums.
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Weren't you 2 giving me a bad time 15 minutes ago for wanting to lynch a lurker?
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On July 29 2013 00:00 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 28 2013 23:58 Koshi wrote:
Weren't you 2 giving me a bad time 15 minutes ago for wanting to lynch a lurker? And? What the fuck Oatsmaster? You can't have fucking double standards.
I am ok with it... It's just funny.
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##vote : hzflank
I will put my vote on the person that is actively posting and I find the most scummy.
Reasons:
1) Disagree on Paper
2) Posting habit is equal to a previous game with hzflank. Such a good scumplayer, got killed by SK that game because he looked the most town with a lot of people left.
This is a respect vote if you like. I am checking in every so many minutes for questions.
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People Koshi wants to lynch
1. hzflank
2. Stutters
3. VA
People Koshi can agree upon:
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On July 29 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi, why are you making lists in this game and in NONE of your other games?
Why are you not providing much reasoning for any of those reads. Why do you not seem to care who dies?
I feel like being countvoncount this game.
I gave reasoning for all my names. Or it is obvious.
Why should I care? I would like it to be scum, I would really like it to be not me.
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On July 29 2013 01:03 exarezee wrote:
meh, don't really see why smurfs are allowed in games. gives the smurf too much of an advantage.
Are you and JAT friends?
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On July 29 2013 01:46 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 29 2013 01:37 Koshi wrote:On July 29 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi, why are you making lists in this game and in NONE of your other games?
Why are you not providing much reasoning for any of those reads. Why do you not seem to care who dies? I feel like being countvoncount this game. I gave reasoning for all my names. Or it is obvious. Why should I care? I would like it to be scum, I would really like it to be not me. Why should you care who dies? Who the fuck has this kind of mindset as town? "I dont care who dies, I dont want it to be me. " GUYS WANNA LYNCH KOSHI? I might be reading too much into this, but that may be a trap aimed at me. Koshi knows that scum-me would jump on him for that but not push it too hard, because it would be too easy to just let townies finish him. I think I have figured out Koshi's play this game. Since out last game together he now checks under the bed for me before he goes to sleep.
You were quite scary in that game.
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On July 29 2013 02:02 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:47 Koshi wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 hzflank wrote:On July 29 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 29 2013 01:37 Koshi wrote:On July 29 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi, why are you making lists in this game and in NONE of your other games?
Why are you not providing much reasoning for any of those reads. Why do you not seem to care who dies? I feel like being countvoncount this game. I gave reasoning for all my names. Or it is obvious. Why should I care? I would like it to be scum, I would really like it to be not me. Why should you care who dies? Who the fuck has this kind of mindset as town? "I dont care who dies, I dont want it to be me. " GUYS WANNA LYNCH KOSHI? I might be reading too much into this, but that may be a trap aimed at me. Koshi knows that scum-me would jump on him for that but not push it too hard, because it would be too easy to just let townies finish him. I think I have figured out Koshi's play this game. Since out last game together he now checks under the bed for me before he goes to sleep. You were quite scary in that game. So what are you doing this game? If you are town then you must realise that you position is becoming increasingly precarious. As town you are currently an easy lynch target that anyone can attack and anyone can vote for without even looking at all scummy. That is not a good position for a townie to get into. I am trying to figure out your gameplan here but the best I can see is that you have some kind of meta-vendatta against me and just want to catch me out as scum. You were better than this in the previous game. You must appreciate that if I cannot figure out how you are playing to win as town then it looks a lot like you are playing to win as scum. And do not tell me that you are not playing to win as I do not buy that sort of thing at all. Whose filters have you read recently? Did you find anything interesting? Do you have any in-game reasons for wanting to lynch me?
Nono. I am not out for you. I just find it a similar playstyle. You don't agree?
Also there is no reason for bad blood between us. SK killed me right? I loved your game. I just want the same to happen here. You know. Because I am town.
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On July 29 2013 02:37 hzflank wrote:
Koshi, my playstyle is similar to last game where I was scum and also to the game before where I was town. My playstyle is slowly evolving, as it should. Your playstyle is very different to the last game where you were town. Do you not see how this makes you look more scum than me?
You need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper?
I said I dislike it. Paper looks cool.
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On July 29 2013 02:49 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:On July 29 2013 02:37 hzflank wrote:
Koshi, my playstyle is similar to last game where I was scum and also to the game before where I was town. My playstyle is slowly evolving, as it should. Your playstyle is very different to the last game where you were town. Do you not see how this makes you look more scum than me?
You need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper? I said I dislike it. Paper looks cool. That is not what I asked. What do you think of the reasons as to why I think Paper is scum?
I think there is a chance that you are tunneling paper to prove you are scumhunting and to hide your reads on other people. Because it is hard to fake reads on multiple people as scum.
Hence my vote and shizzle.
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