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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 14:11 GMT
#234
Oats isn't blending in, he's sticking out like a sore thumb. Whether that makes it more or less likely that he's scum I'm not sure yet.

But leave your vote where it is, all good, but please give us some opinions other than those on oats.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 15:28 GMT
#281
Oats your case makes no sense to me, why do you think JAtownie is scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 15:52 GMT
#296
Paper Towns is a good book.
Vayne is a pig or swine or something.

I think you should all vote Tofu for president captain lynching
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:01 GMT
#300
On July 28 2013 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats your case makes no sense to me, why do you think JAtownie is scum?

Cause he nitpicks peoples post. He suddenly 180s on a read convinced by a really bad post.
He never explains how papers is scum cause of that, just points out 'bad' posts without offering any analysis.


I happen to agree that vayne has done nothing and that before you made that case you had done nothing.
So what is left, he nitpicks stuff during the first 12 hours of the game? Please explain why that is scummy.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:15 GMT
#315
On July 28 2013 01:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats your case makes no sense to me, why do you think JAtownie is scum?

Cause he nitpicks peoples post. He suddenly 180s on a read convinced by a really bad post.
He never explains how papers is scum cause of that, just points out 'bad' posts without offering any analysis.


I happen to agree that vayne has done nothing and that before you made that case you had done nothing.
So what is left, he nitpicks stuff during the first 12 hours of the game? Please explain why that is scummy.

because he takes it and calls 1 part scummy. Like he is trying so desperately to call paper's scum. If you read a filter and you dont think a dude is scum, you dont make a case right? Well justanothertownie decided that he had to call papers scum and capitalize on the current thread view towards him and went through his filter thinking that. So he nitpicked. Nitpicking is bad and scummy because it shows you dont have actual reasons to believe someone is scum.

Clarity, who is scum? And dont say vayne, hes town.


I'm not buying it, I understand that argument when you cherrypick a 10 page filter but it was like 12 hours into the game or something.

Anyway, other than Tofu? I dunno, there's a lot of people who have contributed nothing or the minimum and I'm kinda getting worried this is just gonna be a town on town shitfest.
What makes you say vayne is town?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:16 GMT
#318
On July 28 2013 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 28 2013 01:13 hzflank wrote:
Oats, they have already posted that. Clarity thinks that Tofu is scum and CJS thinks that Oats is scum.

my bad.

So clarity, ignoring the vote post, what else makes tofu scum?


What? Nothing else makes him scum he hasn't done anything else.
You're asking silly questions.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:19 GMT
#325
On July 28 2013 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:13 hzflank wrote:
Oats, they have already posted that. Clarity thinks that Tofu is scum and CJS thinks that Oats is scum.

my bad.

So clarity, ignoring the vote post, what else makes tofu scum?


What? Nothing else makes him scum he hasn't done anything else.
You're asking silly questions.

you're bad or scum.

I have already given multiple explanations why FT's vote doesnt make him scum. You havent responded to ANY OF THEM. And since its the only reason you think he is scum, better go and justify your view point.



Thought you were talking about my "vote post"
Anyway, your answers are still in my case.
You're just asking everyone every question you can think of, how is this helping anyone.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:22 GMT
#332
On July 28 2013 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:13 hzflank wrote:
Oats, they have already posted that. Clarity thinks that Tofu is scum and CJS thinks that Oats is scum.

my bad.

So clarity, ignoring the vote post, what else makes tofu scum?


What? Nothing else makes him scum he hasn't done anything else.
You're asking silly questions.

you're bad or scum.

I have already given multiple explanations why FT's vote doesnt make him scum. You havent responded to ANY OF THEM. And since its the only reason you think he is scum, better go and justify your view point.



Thought you were talking about my "vote post"
Anyway, your answers are still in my case.
You're just asking everyone every question you can think of, how is this helping anyone.

answer the fucking question.


read my fucking case you spammy fuck, my main point wasnt even about his vote post
all you're doing is burying decent discussion with your incessant dumbass questions
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:30 GMT
#341
On July 28 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie

Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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come on koshi, I just posted a case lol.


How is anyone supposed to know when you spam the next two pages with one liner questions that have nothing to do with your case and you don't follow up?
Your case is also pretty poor
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:34 GMT
#351
On July 28 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie

Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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come on koshi, I just posted a case lol.


How is anyone supposed to know when you spam the next two pages with one liner questions that have nothing to do with your case and you don't follow up?
Your case is also pretty poor

:o
But when you read justanothertownies filter, is he scummy?


He's no shining beacon of green but I don't think he has a decent chance of flipping red, no.

This post seems to indicate he's town:
On July 27 2013 22:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 21:29 hzflank wrote:

One post doth not maketh a townie.

What do you think of Clarity's case on Tofu? Or the exchange between Clarity and myself?

I don't like the case on Tofu. That doesn't mean he can't be scum but his Filter looks more like town to me. His vote on exarezee doesn't make that much sense to me but I don't think it is scum motivated. I guess he just tried to get exarezee to explain himself.

But as you already pointed out: he should defend himself!

Your argument with clarity is actually pretty stupid... I see a lot of nitpicking in it. For example I think the discussion whether 7 minutes are enough to read a page of filter ist pointless as it surely depends on the player. I also don't understand why you are so focused on clarity answering you and presenting his case in the same post. Arguments like this won't help town in any way.

I am not entirely sure why clarity started this case on Tofu because I can't imagine he really thinks this guy is scum at the moment.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#357
On July 28 2013 01:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie

Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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7
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come on koshi, I just posted a case lol.


How is anyone supposed to know when you spam the next two pages with one liner questions that have nothing to do with your case and you don't follow up?
Your case is also pretty poor

:o
But when you read justanothertownies filter, is he scummy?


He's no shining beacon of green but I don't think he has a decent chance of flipping red, no.

This post seems to indicate he's town:
On July 27 2013 22:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 27 2013 21:29 hzflank wrote:

One post doth not maketh a townie.

What do you think of Clarity's case on Tofu? Or the exchange between Clarity and myself?

I don't like the case on Tofu. That doesn't mean he can't be scum but his Filter looks more like town to me. His vote on exarezee doesn't make that much sense to me but I don't think it is scum motivated. I guess he just tried to get exarezee to explain himself.

But as you already pointed out: he should defend himself!

Your argument with clarity is actually pretty stupid... I see a lot of nitpicking in it. For example I think the discussion whether 7 minutes are enough to read a page of filter ist pointless as it surely depends on the player. I also don't understand why you are so focused on clarity answering you and presenting his case in the same post. Arguments like this won't help town in any way.

I am not entirely sure why clarity started this case on Tofu because I can't imagine he really thinks this guy is scum at the moment.

How does that look town when you think the opposite?
You say that you are scum?


Two town players cant have different viewpoints?
That post makes no sense from a scum viewpoint, especially the last line. What scum says "I don't think he believes in it himself"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:40 GMT
#362
On July 28 2013 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:35 Koshi wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie

Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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7
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come on koshi, I just posted a case lol.


How is anyone supposed to know when you spam the next two pages with one liner questions that have nothing to do with your case and you don't follow up?
Your case is also pretty poor

:o
But when you read justanothertownies filter, is he scummy?


He's no shining beacon of green but I don't think he has a decent chance of flipping red, no.

This post seems to indicate he's town:
On July 27 2013 22:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 27 2013 21:29 hzflank wrote:

One post doth not maketh a townie.

What do you think of Clarity's case on Tofu? Or the exchange between Clarity and myself?

I don't like the case on Tofu. That doesn't mean he can't be scum but his Filter looks more like town to me. His vote on exarezee doesn't make that much sense to me but I don't think it is scum motivated. I guess he just tried to get exarezee to explain himself.

But as you already pointed out: he should defend himself!

Your argument with clarity is actually pretty stupid... I see a lot of nitpicking in it. For example I think the discussion whether 7 minutes are enough to read a page of filter ist pointless as it surely depends on the player. I also don't understand why you are so focused on clarity answering you and presenting his case in the same post. Arguments like this won't help town in any way.

I am not entirely sure why clarity started this case on Tofu because I can't imagine he really thinks this guy is scum at the moment.

How does that look town when you think the opposite?
You say that you are scum?


Two town players cant have different viewpoints?
That post makes no sense from a scum viewpoint, especially the last line. What scum says "I don't think he believes in it himself"

Scum that knows that FT is town?


Saying my case is bad or that FT looks town can be said by both scum and town, saying "I don't think he believes in his own case" seems like a conclusion you can't really get to as scum.
Doesn't matter that he's wrong
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:47 GMT
#370
Hi FirmTofu, I recommend next time you're catching up and notice something, just make a note of it instead of giving us your thoughts of 12 hours in the past.
A response to my case on your would also be appreciated
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 16:49 GMT
#372
On July 28 2013 01:46 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:42 hzflank wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:39 exarezee wrote:
I'm really lost as to who's trolling. I've been trolled by captain sparrow, oatsmaster, and paper so far. Are you guys all just joking right now or can i take your posts seriously.


The thread got really shitty. Working out why would be an interesting exercise.


The carefree posts and lack of reading comprehension to make an actual case or a real quote of what i said makes me lean town on oat and captain jack. i'm not sure if oats is clueless and blind or a savante. it's either or and no in between. will wait to make that judgement.

i see no reason to move my vote of FT at the moment. I will of course give him a chance to defend himself. But his posts on day 1 are bad. And if it was a joke, it was pretty bad jokes imo.


You mean papers, right? that's who your vote is on
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 17:07 GMT
#385
On July 28 2013 02:01 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Oats is really doing his best in this regard...


Too obvious. If scum wanted a messy thread then they would give town reasons to make it messy but they would not do it themselves. Also, Oats' recent posts have made it much easier to get reads on him than his early posts did.


I've made this mistake before in a game where I called someone town because he, for like 72 hours, with one scum left in the game, would not stop talking about setup speculation. I thought he couldnt possibly be this obvious so this is just a dumb townie. Turns out he was the last scum.

Am I saying oats is scum? Not really.... but he did make the last 2-3 pages a complete clusterfuck which is anti town behavior and if he continues we should lynch or vigi that shit.
Oats, you can ask questions and push stuff without making everything around you a slog to read through.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 17:31 GMT
#399
On July 28 2013 02:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:53 exarezee wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:48 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.


Because scum want two town wagons on day 1. Town only wants to find one scum as the chance of actually finding multiple scum on day 1 is very slim. If a scum member is under pressure and cannot deal with it alone then the simplest and easiest thing for the scum team to do is to ignore that person and secure two other lynch candidates. If town start saying that we want to lynch two specific people then it makes it too easy for scum to steer us into a mislynch without being noticed.

If you think that they are both scum that is fine, but don't do anything resembling pushing for lynches on them both at the same time.


You're exactly right. Scum would ideally want two town wagons Day 1. That's why we wagon paper and tofu......you really think they are town/town with their interactions with me day 1?

WTF? Bolded and big'd obvious scumslip. How did no one catch this?


?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 27 2013 17:40 GMT
#406
I mean, I find the thing FirmTofu just did kinda hard to fake.
Like, I guess if you're superscum it's like a mindgame thing, but if that were the case why did he seem so scummy in the first 12 hours.

##Unvote

Am actually gonna be gone for a couple of hours but shall return later, look forward to hearing from Malongo.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 28 2013 08:02 GMT
#488
Malongo are you serious right now?

Koshi, do you have any scumreads at all? Other then saying that JAtownie "looks bad" I don't really see it.
And even this accusation of him looking bad is after Oats posted a giant case on him....
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie

Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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You only give your reasons for suspecting him of being scum after you have a townread on him.
On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?

Give me some time yo.

Well, my filter isn't exactly huge....

I would like to repeat my earlier request:
On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad?

Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...

Oh I missed that question earlier.

I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.

I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.

I am actually leaning town on you now.


Other than this, you've posted your "willing to lynch" lists but they have basically been JAtownie and a bunch of lurkers/non-posters.... and vayne who is trolling.

Who do you currently want to lynch?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 28 2013 08:07 GMT
#489
and I'm not asking for a list I'm asking for a singular name and some decent reasons
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 28 2013 09:23 GMT
#495
So, Sentinel got himself banned temp banned http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95875&currentpage=2003#40043
Could we get a co-host to tell us everything is gonna be okay?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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