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On August 01 2013 22:16 Koshi wrote: Is it normal that you get a message that you are roleblocked when you don't have a role? I seriously have no clue. I am rereading here and I didn't know that. completely normal. | ||
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On August 01 2013 00:34 hzflank wrote: So what happens if: VT-Vayne claims cop with a guilty check on Malongo. Vig says: "Should I shoot Mal or Vaybe?" Real-Cop says: Well I am real cop so you should shoot Vayne Vig shoots VT-Vayne N2 Scum NK real cop N3 scum NK confirmed town expired Vig That's a really really bad fake-cop claim to make as a VT. See, I thought that Vayne made the claim because he was the real cop who checked me and got green. As real cop Vayne did not have to worry about a counter-claim. But you would think that a real cop would check the setup for a Framer before picking his N1 target. What's the chance of the real cop not checking for Miller when he checks for Framer? Do you really think that Vayne would of done that as VT? I can see Vayne doing it as cop or doctor, but not as VT. | ||
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On August 01 2013 23:35 VayneAuthority wrote: I still say there's a high chance JAT flips scum, He was also swept under the rug along with malongo. I knew there was something fishy about that and if im not dead tomorrow you can be dam sure ill be pushing a JAT lynch Why do you expect Rayn to keep feeding us cop checks when scum have a roleblocker? Whether he is scum or not, Rayn cannot cop check anyone unless we lynch the roleblocker. | ||
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Stutters said he thought that Malongo was scum. Stutters also said that if we mislynch D2 and a Janitor kills goes through we lose if Malongo and/or Oats are town because they will probably not be available to stop a last minute vote switch. Why did Stutters not want to lynch Malongo D2? | ||
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On August 01 2013 23:43 Clarity_nl wrote: If rayn is scum then scum cannot roleblock town as long as rayn is alive. I mean, I suppose theres a small chance town have a 4th PR, dunno. I don't think he's a good lynch d3 though. Exar will be killed, so there is no need for them to RB anyone. If we have a 4th PR then Rayn or Exar are scum anyway as we would not have 2 cops a Vet + a Doc (and it's pretty obvious that we have no Vig). | ||
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On August 01 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: We don´t have a vig or doc. You can be sure of that. The vig should have shot Malongo when you gave out the red check, and the doc should have docced Vivax N1 unless beyond retarded. 4 PR´s is pretty much not possible so if there is one of those roles then hz must somehow be lying, but i do not think that´s the case as his claim sounds so legit. To play devil's advocate, if you think two cops are possible then when I made that claim I could of thought 2 vets were possible. | ||
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On August 01 2013 23:46 VayneAuthority wrote: stutters would have had to change his play in advance knowing some one would look at his previous scum game. I guess that's possible but if he's scum he is the last place im looking atm. Think about what I just said: Stutters wants to lynch scum. Stutters thinks that FT and Mal are both scum. Stutters thinks that if Mal is in fact town then he is a liability to town. Why would Stutters push hard to lynch FT instead of Mal? In Stutters mind: FT is likely scum. Mal is likely scum but if Mal is town then we are screwed. If Stutters was telling the truth about his reads he should of preferred a Mal lynch, but he pushed FT lynch hard. | ||
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On August 01 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because tbh, at least from my pov FT was like 1000x scummier than Malongo. I don´t lynch people for being useless and noone else should. They should lynch scum. I understand it from your perspective. You thought that Mal was not likely scum. However, it is different from Stutters perspective as he thought that Mal was likely scum. | ||
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On August 02 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote: i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO. But if you look at the situation from other people's perspective you should realize why other people did not immediately believe you. Heck, I still do not full believe you now, but it is not worth going into until after the night kill. | ||
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On August 02 2013 03:19 exarezee wrote: Nope. You weren't going to get a FirmTofu lynch without me. I had already stated I was not moving off Malongo. I could have just disappeared from the thread. Let's pretend FirmTofu was going to be lynched without my help. The only reason I would fakeclaim on Malongo would be to save FirmTofu. Why would I do this if tofu were town? I'd just let him get lynched. Why would I do this if Tofu were scum? We would both get lynched. 1-2 trade in town's favor. Not to mention if I were scum and malongo is town, malongo looks so bad and is going to be questioned every single day unless his posting level went up by over 9000. Why trade myself for malongo lol. It's not like he was going to help you guys win the game. I see no reason to suspect why my claim was fake. And the fact that you are saying people should is absolutely strange. Because before you claimed you were looking extremely suspect, and people needed some time to work things out. Just like when Vayne claimed. Also, if you read the thread you would see this happening. And you are going to say that you were reading the thread / following the game...then you would know that Tofu was still going to be lynched without your claim because Vayne would of moved his vote to make 7. | ||
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On August 02 2013 03:48 Koshi wrote: The only thing I know atm is that XRZ is town. But tomorrow I will be without town reads I guess... We will see. It's night. no hurry. In all honesty, how do you know that? XRZ is probably town (who will die tonight) but he still is not my strongest town read. If XRZ does not die tonight then you still need to look at him. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:14 exarezee wrote: I was looking suspect? lololololololol. trolololol. I can't take this game seriously anymore. Town is fucking retarded. WTF would I try to save a scum FT to get us both lynched. You cannot take this seriously? I cannot take seriously that so many people are not reading. On August 01 2013 08:38 hzflank wrote: Okay, Two things... Exar may already of done some light breadcrumbing of his red check on Malongo. You can check his filter yourselves, might be something or nothing. Secondly, why would scum-Exar do this? Only to save FT right? That's not 1-1 but rather 1-2. We should lynch Mal because if he is green then we can get both Exar and FT afterwards. ##Unvote ##Vote: Malongo I took the time to work through it and explained my conclusion, then people like you can along and try to question my motives while ignoring the motives that I have previously claimed to of had. I have put plenty of effort into this game while half the town has just sat around and trolled, or decided to skip reading certain posts and just tunnel other discussions. This is fucking stupid. Think about this from the perspective of anyone who did not know that you were town. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:15 exarezee wrote: you all look fucking scummy to me: clarity, hzflank, oats, koshi, tofu. only good town reads atm for me are: rayn, captain jack, vayne. slight town lean on JAT Then you have no idea how to find scum. How the hell do you get strong town reads on those three people? Vayne and GJS were right to vote for Mal early, but you need to look at their reasoning. heck, Vayne was not even voting for Mal because he thought that Mal was scum. As for you having a strong town read on Rayn...why are you so quick to believe that there are two cops in this game? Sure it is possible but it is not likely (there is no framer or miller). CJS has barely been active and has spent the entire on N2 throwing useless shit at Rayn. Rayn has done a bunch of scummy stuff this game and all people are talking about is meta and things that do not even prove Rayn is scum. You think Rayn is town and Clarity is scum? So you think that town has 2 cops and scum do not have a roleblocker? wtf. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:21 exarezee wrote: why do you not think im not 100% town right now? I bussed malongo to save FT why? If FT is town then you are also town, so FT should have a strong town read on you but I should not. For all I know Mal, FT and you could all be scum. If you are town then you likely die tonight so it is not worth going into until D3. | ||
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You think that I blue hunted? I put Rayn in a position where by he could only be cop with green check on Vayne or scum and made it look like Vayne was the cop. if you have actually analysed the game properly you would of realized this. It's all in my filter if you were to actually analyse it properly. | ||
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The only remote chance you had of not being killed tonight and getting another cop check off was if Clarity was confirmed town and you were not. But I cannot even be bothered to try anymore. | ||
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I was going to write some 2000+ word monster of a case on Rayn and am I glad I did not waste my time writing it in advance because Rayn is now confirmed town, and so am I. Town must have at least 2 PRs in this setup. FT really scummy based on page 164. Makes no sense for FT to have XRZ as town and Clarity and Rayn as scum. No sense at all. In 6 hours or so I should be able to put some real time into the game again. | ||
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I need to put a lot more thought into XRZ before I give a read on him. | ||
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