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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 09:49 hzflank wrote: Oats, have you looked thoroughly into the play of FT from day 3 onwards? Still think he is town? What did you think of JAT's N3 stuff? duuude townslip. And I think its normal town FT. JAT i dunno :/ | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Either hes a smurf or town man. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 09:52 hzflank wrote: So you have the town by the balls due to that townslip? It's majority vote MYLO. If the whole town does not vote together then we cannot lynch scum. You are not usually online before the deadline. If everyone else thinks that FT is scum are you just going to say townslip and refuse to vote for him? yes. look. twice, you guys lynched town who I didnt vote for. although I didnt really fight against XRZ but paper man. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 09:57 hzflank wrote: True. Although on D1 you did you push a counter-wagon that hard. You were totally right about Paper, but it's hard to blame us when the only person to even try to counter the wagon was Rayn (by trying to lynch Koshi or FT). I've been wrong every single day so far. I cannot help that. All I can do is to try to solve the game, which I am doing. But I cannot do that if you refuse to look at every single thing that FT has done since his townslip. I said lynch JAT. you could vote for Koshi too. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 10:09 hzflank wrote: Okay, you were right and I was wrong, getting into that now is not going to help us. The problem that I have is: even if on D5 or D6 I thought that was FT was scum and made the best possible case I could against him, I could not lynch him without your vote. That means that the only way town can possibly win is if FT and Oats are of the same alignment. Almost everyone thinks that FT is scum. What do we do? even if on D5 or D6 I thought that was Koshi was scum and made the best possible case I could against him, I could not lynch him without your vote. Almost everyone thinks that Koshi is scum. What do we do? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 10:14 hzflank wrote: My vote is not set in stone. I do not have a townslip on anyone. The only people confirmed town to me are town because of night action roles, and those people will of been night-killed by D6 anyway. Therefore, what you can do is convince me that someone is scum. I cannot convince you that FT is scum if you just say townslip and move on. The point is, you can vote for Koshi who I am voting for too. If we are left with Stutters and FT, I gotta think really hard. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 10:18 hzflank wrote: But there are 3 scum left. why not both Stutters and FT (and Koshi)? JAT just looks the most town out of the 4 of them (if you ignore the townslip). Ok so 4 dudes. I tend to think FT is the towniest. We both dont think Koshi is the towniest. LETS LYNCH KOSHI. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 10:22 hzflank wrote: Ofcourse. My vote is already on Koshi. Why did you vote for Stutters btw? cause I thought he was the scummiest and wasnt sure that Koshi was scum. NOW IM SURE!. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
yes. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, why not Stutters? both work fine. Which one will be voted for today by all of town though? Koshi. I hope man. Do you think that scum would push another wagon and we end up with 4-3 final votes? Like go all in? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck you, you have never thought about who will town vote for lynch, otherwise you would have consolidated. You are scum too. its so far not been mylo/lylo. Stop making me laugh rayn  | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: k, vote for stutters, he is confirmed scum. can you explain it for the thread to see? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats does not want to SUDDENLY vote for his TOP FUCKING 1 SCUMREAD ANYMORE, WHEN THERE IS A 100% LIE CASE ON HIM! MAKES SENSE OATSMASTER! you got caught but those fuckers are so no. Oats does not want to SUDDENLY vote for his TOP FUCKING 1 SCUMREAD ANYMORE. On August 06 2013 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I DUNNO. I read koshi's thing. Ok.. scum playing the noob card. ##unvote ##vote koshi oh wait he did. Never mind. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
While it is possible that Oats just did not read the thread properly, you think he would of noticed that Tofu had no in fact flipped. Not to mention that he thought my shot on the guy that he has had confirmed town for the entire game was a pretty ok shot. Tofu didnt flip cause hosts didnt see it. Whatever. Your shot made it a smaller pool to lynch today and took out someone the thread thought was scum. Good shot. It wouldve been a bad shot if you shot rayn or me. Everything else is good. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: and oats, you are 100% lying about NWM. too bad i got no credit to lynch you this game. you won. gg. I dont remember the Ace case. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:31 hzflank wrote: Why Oats is scum Oats has been town-hunting instead of scum-hunting Town players should scum-hunt. Oats' mission objective this game has instead been to confirm enough people as town so that the remaining players must be scum. In particular, Oats was not actually trying to hard-confirm people as town, but rather get a whole bunch of town reads. so all the people I said "x is scum" Is not scumhunting? You pointed out 1 post which I say I have strong townreads. I never mention it while Im pushing dudes otherwise. 1 post does not mean all im doing is townhunting. Come on. Oats votes for Stutters D4 Oats has been calling Koshi scum for most of the game. He was the first to vote for Koshi D2 after calling Koshi scum multiple times. Then Malongo suddenly self-votes and some people move from Koshi to Malongo. Oats moves from Koshi to Exar. Malongo self votes. People unvote Koshi. Oats never moves his vote to Malongo. Even though Oats had Exar as town based on the earlier list, and Oats had Stutters/rayn/malongo/koshi as scum. For some reason, when one of Oats' scum reads self-voted, Oats moved his vote from his other scum-read to his town-read. 1. I made a case based on malongo's reaction to the check. Totally scum. I cant remember if I voted for him then, but im pretty sure I did. 2. Self voting is done by both Town and Scum and I didnt know which one it was. So I voted for my stronger scumread. On D3, once I pointed out that I did not think a town-Oats would want to vote for Exar, Oats moved his vote to Koshi (Cora was already on Koshi) and left it there. He never actually tried to push the Koshi lynch on D3, though. yeah I didnt. why? Because the whole thing was about XRZ and his shit. When i decided that he was town, I needed to sleep. So no explanation no nothing. Additionally, Oats thinks that Koshi is scum, right? Then why ie hs trying to save him D4? Im trying to get info into the thread. Is that a bad thing? I dont want to be wrong, and the more a player posts, the easier it is to read him. Oats has scum team variations Remember how Oats' objective has been getting town reads and finding scum by process of elimination? Well, he had so many town-reads that JAT had to become scum. But since then he has someone managed to find scum team variations amongst his mass of town-reads. Oats' entire play has lead to what should be one possible scum-team. He should not have variations. Variations meaning stutters/koshi/JAT stutters/koshi/CJS stutters/JAT/CJS so I shouldnt have variations? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, why does my case on Stutters want you to lynch KOSHI?? + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi: D1: - Has a FirmTofu as townread because "in every game FirmTofu is capable of looking scummy early on". This makes no sense because if he looks scummy as town, there is no guarantee he would look scummy as mafia too. - Has Paperscraps as town read for no reason. - For same reasons that makes FirmTofu town (meta), Koshi says there is no guarantee for vayne to be town. He even explains why the situation is 100% like with FirmTofu. There is a contradiction in his thinking toward vayne/FT. One of them can be town by meta and another one can´t. - Koshi says he thinks hzflank is mafia for tunneling one dude for the entire day. The thing that makes hzflank mafia is that "mafia can hide behind tunneling so that they would not have to have reads on everyone". Koshi´s reads are at this point are "hzflank, gut-read leaning scum, everyone else null or town for no reasoning or bad reasoning (FT)". Another contradicting statement right there. He is playing just like he says scum would play. - Another set of posts where he accuses hzflank of only pushing his own wagon and not trying to find other mafia dudes. He is doing exactly the same thing, but he isn´t even trying to push the hz lynch. To me when Koshi interacts with hz it looks like he is interacting with a townie rather than scum. - After everything he consolidates on Paperscraps, his townread. He has not tried to push any other lynch, did not contribute towards any other wagons, was not pushing hz lynch at all. Basically did nothing to even try lynching mafia on D1. N1: - Koshi says Vivax´ vote switch is okay. I did not think that was okay at all unless he was pretty sure Paper was town. Koshi himself says " I knew he was town, and some others new he was town in the end. We didn't have the balls to remove our vote because we would get lynched by people like rayn". lol, at the end of the day HE WAS PUSHING PAPER LYNCH, HE WAS SURE PAPER WAS TOWN, HE DIDN´T HAVE BALLS TO NOT VOTE FOR HIS TOWNREAD!?!?!? Fear, insecurity, justification for a vote after townflip. Townies do not think like this. - Says he will not be tunneling hzflank on D2, because he is ssure the guy is mafia. Makes sense? Does... not... want.. to.. do.. his.. best.. to.. lynch.. his.. scum.. read... right! - "Clarity makes posts about everybody, goes in contact with everybody and is speaking his mind. You know that I like that. So Clarity is town. I expect him to create a lot of content Day 2 as well. I can reevaluate but he is town for me. " Clarity is town for exact same reasons why i am scum for Koshi. When i ask for him to elaborate, his answer is "it was a joke". D2: - On D2 start Koshi quotes his case on hzflank, some time later he votes for XRZ, no reasoning given. On N1 he said "XRZ fears no lynching from me". - Suddenly Oats and XRZ are in his scumreads, read the last point, that was also what he said earlier regarding Oats. - Adds Stutters in the scumlist because Stutters voted for Malongo when vayne´s check came out. - Exactly 3 hours later Stutters is confirmed town.. - FirmTofu is confirmed town. When asked for reasoning he tells people to compare FT/XRZ filters. Noone even asked anything about XRZ? - Adds JAT to his scumlist, for reasons that made him town earlier (being new, suddenly he is not new any more for some reason)? - Says this about JAT: "There is also the fact you also pop up when you are attacked, but blend away when the heat is off you" and "Your scumhunting hasn't been too extensive so far.". I do not think this is true, i think this is extremely true if you compare this to Koshi´s play however. - Again Stutters becomes mafia. Note that this read has changed three times for Koshi, and all the reasons for the read are from D1. Makes zero sense. - Koshi tells me that he really needs a red flip on D2. After this he votes for JAT, givves no real reasoning nor follows the vote up on any way. - After this changes his vote onto Stutters. Same resoning and follow up as above. - After this he consolidates on to FirmTofu -> CJS -> FT (both are his town reads). Remember, he "badly needed a red flip!!!" N2: - Nothing much to say here, calls XRZ town. D3: - Sheeps me onto XRZ. - "That combined with the fact hz and rayn are confirmed town and they want this lynch." After that: - I am pretty sure everyone remembers what Koshi has done after that. Now how on earth does any of this stuff make sense?? I know how, Koshi is mafia! I have no idea what case on stutters you are talking about, I was talking about the spoilered post. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:38 hzflank wrote: Okay Oats, care to refute the point on how Malongo's selt vote made you move your vote from Koshi to Exar? The main reason I was holind back this case is because I needed to find out whether or not your vote on Stutters D4 was trap or not. But you said it was not, so I think that you are scum. do you mean why I didnt want to vote for Malongo? The reason for that is because I wasnt as sure about Malongo as koshi. I moved my vote cause I decided that Vivax was right. They are not connected incidents hzflank. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: oats busses, him, stutters and koshi are mafia. I like seeing my name a lot, but you're crazy. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: no worries Cora, Koshi is ok. Oats and stutters are another mafs. see what i told about stutters and see how oats reacted. gg. total confusion. Total. | ||
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