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Ok. Let's review.
xrz claims to be roleblocked. He says he tried checking Oats.
This makes sense with what we know so far. Can xrz be scum? Yeah
How likely is it? Like 1%
rayn checks Cora and gets green
Okay well, I don't really understand why he didn't check oats.
The more important question is why is he alive?
Three possibilities (I thought it was only two earlier).
1. He scum brah
2. Oats is GF
3. Scum thought he wasnt cop
I think #2 is most likely. Yes, rayn just shit up the thread immensely but as dumb as it was it makes him pretty damn town in my mind. At the very least our cops should NOT check oats next night since the result (if we get one) is rather useless.
rayn received some backlash for being a dumbass
Obviously.
Who looks worst? Probably tofu
On August 02 2013 12:52 FirmTofu wrote:
Yeah I have no fucking idea why we let rayn get away with this bullshit play all game long.
##vote: raynpelikoneet
rayn is fakeclaiming cop. He probably killed vayne so he couldprove that his town check was correct. Hes been playing against us the entire game by throwing whit at everyone with one-liners and no reasoning to back it up. I cant believe we let him live this long.
What rayn was doing at this point was so mindbogglingly stupid that it couldn't be anything else but true.
rayn is behaving CRAZY after a night, which if he was scum, he expect to go that way.
Then there's tofu's argument, which is completely WIFOMing the night kill.
I believe Cora's vote is frustration more than anything, and obviously if rayn's check is real then cora is town. (I don't believe a GF plays this way)
Oats his vote is weird, and I think he's scum at this point, but the vote itself doesn't look that terrible.
Koshi
Where's he been man? He was on the path of redemption and shit.
Lastly, I don't like this post
On August 02 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
hosts, can we get a modkill of rayn for playing against his wincon?
Like, regardless of alignment. Its more likely to come from scum given that he didn't ask this about malongo or vayne.
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Yeah just went off my notes and kinda forgot about that part
More reason rayn is town.
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On August 02 2013 14:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 14:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah just went off my notes and kinda forgot about that part
More reason rayn is town. I'm really hesitant to throw off my vote off of him until he comes back and explains what happened. That's all from me for tonight, I'm going to bed.
I don't understand why.
Yeah he kinda flipped out, but do you think he's scum?
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On August 02 2013 15:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
clarity why so scum?
I'm supposed to do your work for you? You tell me
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I can agree to at least one thing. If a GF flips, oats is cleared.
I also believe there's no reason to consider lynching me until at least two scum flipped non roleblocker.
I'm warming up to a FT lynch, have to reread some stuff though. If FT flips anything but a scum PR then xrz is cleared I believe.
I'm around for questions.
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You don't like a tofu lynch cora?
I think it's >possible< that they're both scum, but we get more information from the FT lynch.
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On August 03 2013 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It´s possible that Koshi is mafia. But really, the night actions make no sense if XRZ is town. Please Cora look at them. I still got ~50 hours to tell you why, and today we lynch FT.
If FT flips a scum powerrole we should consider it.
Before that there's really no point in going on about it the way you have been
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On August 02 2013 23:12 hzflank wrote:
I don't mind. FT is mor likely to be the RBer if they have one. But Exar is 99.9% scum while FT is only 99.89% scum.
Could you explain xrz being nearly guaranteed scum to me?
I really have a hard time seeing how this is true unless FT flips roleblocker.
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On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense.
We'll find out, won't we?
Unless you think you can explain xrz being scum if FT somehow flips town. Which would be impressive
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On August 03 2013 00:22 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 02 2013 23:12 hzflank wrote:
I don't mind. FT is mor likely to be the RBer if they have one. But Exar is 99.9% scum while FT is only 99.89% scum. Could you explain xrz being nearly guaranteed scum to me? I really have a hard time seeing how this is true unless FT flips roleblocker. if FT flips roleblocker, me and you are cleared???????????????????
I'll be cleared, you could be scum lying about a roleblock.
Makes most sense if oats is GF though.
Yes it's a stretch, but if FT flips roleblocker you are not cleared in my mind, and I should not be in yours.
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On August 03 2013 00:26 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:22 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 02 2013 23:12 hzflank wrote:
I don't mind. FT is mor likely to be the RBer if they have one. But Exar is 99.9% scum while FT is only 99.89% scum. Could you explain xrz being nearly guaranteed scum to me? I really have a hard time seeing how this is true unless FT flips roleblocker. if FT flips roleblocker, me and you are cleared??????????????????? I'll be cleared, you could be scum lying about a roleblock. Makes most sense if oats is GF though. Yes it's a stretch, but if FT flips roleblocker you are not cleared in my mind, and I should not be in yours. If I am scum and scum team has roleblock, why not just roleblock rayn? I on scum team know one of vayne/rayn is cop if there is one.
If you roleblock rayn without you dying, that probably looks worse than if you get "roleblocked" and rayn doesn't die.
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On August 03 2013 00:26 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense. Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead. There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT. Well Clarity started that stupid-ass train on me. I'm not sure how many votes it got before XRZ's fakeclaim.
You weren't gonna get lynched stop being a baby about it
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On August 03 2013 00:29 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:26 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense. Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead. There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT. Well Clarity started that stupid-ass train on me. I'm not sure how many votes it got before XRZ's fakeclaim. You weren't gonna get lynched stop being a baby about it Well then why'd you start the train in the first fucking place?
Wanted to see who would switch since FT wasn't happening.
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So salty mr sparrow. Yeah I chose you cause I think you're town and choosing hz would make no sense
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You should also realize that your claim was weird as fuck rayn and scum might not have believed you.
Thus bringing a blue vayne back in the possibilities.
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On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.
Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.
This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation. You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting... So your theory is null. Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops.
Explain why mafia killed vayne over ONE cop.
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On August 03 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.
Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.
This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation. You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting... So your theory is null. Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops. Explain why mafia killed vayne over ONE cop. So mafia does not believe i am a cop when i claim a green check on a guy who is town. Makes sense?
Okay, let's look at it this way.
xrz is scum.
WHY DO THEY KILL VAYNE, ITS THE EXACT SAME QUESTION. Saying that vayne dying means xrz is scum is nonsensical
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On August 03 2013 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????
WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!"
I am asking you
THE
SAME
EXACT
THING
If xrz is scum, why does it make it more likely that they kill vayne over you?
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On August 03 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????
WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!" I am asking you THE SAME EXACT THING If xrz is scum, why does it make it more likely that they kill vayne over you? Because it´s the only scenario where they can even assume vayne is BLUE!!!!!!!
So you're saying it's impossible scum thought you were full of crap and vayne was cop?
He did a "fakeclaim" but he was RIGHT about malongo and then pushed hard for his lynch all day.
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Could you be right? Yes.
Are you guaranteed to be right? No.
Stop it with the goddamn confirmation bias. If you can't see why they might think vayne was cop over you then you're being a dumbass.
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