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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 13:59 GMT
#2170
On July 31 2013 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 31 2013 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is Oats scum?

Rayn I really need a red flip now. For me, it is best to go and look around at JAT/XRZ.

There is a possibility that we got to look at FT/Oats instead, but if they are scum. They tricked me. The 2 times I played with Oats he was the opposite as now.
Scum in NWM where he was not this active softdefending Ace a bit but all in all a lurker. As town in sicilian he forgot to do night actions as a parity cop...


FT is doing the same thing game after game and he is always town. He starts with 2-3 pretty controverse statements and then rolls from there. I think he did the same here, that with his vote behaviour/scumhunting early on made me think he looked really town this game.

That´s one fucking weak meta-read and you are not even answering how his play looks in this game.
You´re both scum.

Jeezus, and your superread on Oats is where? ffs.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:05 GMT
#2172
These are all examples of scumhunting done by Oats and I am only on page 3. I even didn't take all of them. It's as open as a book. It's 10 times more town than what XRZ and expecially JAT did.


On July 27 2013 23:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
CJS so bad.
I dont think hes scum though.

The Justanothertownie dude is scum though. Reasons upcoming.

On July 27 2013 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.

FT's vote was probably a ploy to see what you would do, apparently it didnt work to well huh.

If you push paperscrap, you are scum man.

Why cant he joke around?
Why does every post have to be useful?

On July 27 2013 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno about FT, that 'mistake' above seems really newbie scum mistake to make.

Clarity, what do you propose I talk about?

On July 27 2013 21:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
What is this wagon crap man.

Hmm wheres rayn?

On July 27 2013 21:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh god hzflank, stop being so defensive, its annoying.

I think both of you are not talking about anything really.

Hzflank, how do you think you have played this game differently so far from the last newbie where you were scum?



On July 28 2013 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
yup justanothertownie dude is scum.

Look at his first post.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't like Paperscraps. First he joins the lurker discussion without adding any content, then he starts to jump on exarezee without any good reason (I'm not really convinced that it was just a joke) and when he gets a little heat for it he totally backs off. I really hate this:

justanothertownie thinks its not a joke. But he doesnt explain why scum would do it, summerizes Paperscraps actions and just says its scummy. Scum take jokes seriously cause they play the game seriously.
Show nested quote +

TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all.

So this is not serious at all?

Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first.


extreme nitpicking here, clearly paperscraps was using generalization and notice that justanothertownie just throws shit on him without explain how or why its scummy. Like pointing out supposed bad posts without explain why. scumtell.

Show nested quote +

Also I'm annoyed by CJS. Going through his filter I can't find anything valuable - he just didn't say anything until this point (apart from fluff).

Ok look at his thoughts on CJS, I assume he is leaning null scummy. In his very next post commenting on CJS post, his view drastically changes.
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On July 27 2013 23:19 justanothertownie wrote:
##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow
You earned it with your last post. I have to agree with you - Oats and Vayne both did not post useful things as of now.

looks like he wants to sheep CJS, off this horrific
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On July 27 2013 23:08 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 12:00 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Scum! I see one!

##Vote: Oatsmaster


My vote still stands, and I believe that it is the correct one for this situation.

Oatsmaster is acting like scum. He is refusing to give us any decent information whatsoever, just mucking up the thread with sarcastic one-liners and not giving us any insight on his opinions or anything.

He is the perfect example of scum trying to blend in and be in the conversation, yet his words hold no meaning and are merely just filler. If you take them out, his filter is left with:

On July 25 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Normal or not man
/in


And that, my friends, is not someone I want to give rum to.

accusations without anything to back them up with. contradictions and shit, way over generalization. And it makes justanormaltownie want to sheep him? I dont buy it, justanormaltownie wants to support this set of lynches/lynch and see if I could possibly be mislynched.

##vote: justanormaltownie

On July 28 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne, try a bit please.

what do you think of justanothertownie?


On July 28 2013 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats your case makes no sense to me, why do you think JAtownie is scum?

Cause he nitpicks peoples post. He suddenly 180s on a read convinced by a really bad post.
He never explains how papers is scum cause of that, just points out 'bad' posts without offering any analysis.


On July 28 2013 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 01:21 Koshi wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 01:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 28 2013 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 28 2013 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats your case makes no sense to me, why do you think JAtownie is scum?

Cause he nitpicks peoples post. He suddenly 180s on a read convinced by a really bad post.
He never explains how papers is scum cause of that, just points out 'bad' posts without offering any analysis.


I happen to agree that vayne has done nothing and that before you made that case you had done nothing.
So what is left, he nitpicks stuff during the first 12 hours of the game? Please explain why that is scummy.

because he takes it and calls 1 part scummy. Like he is trying so desperately to call paper's scum. If you read a filter and you dont think a dude is scum, you dont make a case right? Well justanothertownie decided that he had to call papers scum and capitalize on the current thread view towards him and went through his filter thinking that. So he nitpicked. Nitpicking is bad and scummy because it shows you dont have actual reasons to believe someone is scum.

Clarity, who is scum? And dont say vayne, hes town.


I'm not buying it, I understand that argument when you cherrypick a 10 page filter but it was like 12 hours into the game or something.

Anyway, other than Tofu? I dunno, there's a lot of people who have contributed nothing or the minimum and I'm kinda getting worried this is just gonna be a town on town shitfest.
What makes you say vayne is town?

Explain the tofu read.

Vayne is town for not giving a fuck how he looks.

That is very very wrong.

hm?

Vayne cares about how he looks? Nope. Just nope.

he doesnt care.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:06 GMT
#2173
Oats is so town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:15 GMT
#2178
On July 31 2013 23:10 hzflank wrote:
I would not call any of those Oats quotes evidence of good scum-hunting. A couple of them could be taken as scum-hunting or also as target-hunting. In fact, I would say Oats' scum-hunting method has been tot town-hunt and then find scum by process of elimination.

Can't disagree if you put it like that. lol

But his recent vote of me indicates he is consistent. Unlike XRZ who has litteraly suspected everybody a little bit but never pushed through except on FT, and fuck me sideways but I call FT town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:29 GMT
#2185
On July 31 2013 23:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
so why aren't we killing the guy voting for himself

useless to town or scum. win/win

Because he is town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:35 GMT
#2188
On July 31 2013 23:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
if he's town he is playing against his wincon. Logical fallacy detected.

He wasn't till he voted on himself. Come on VA. I have so many suspects for being scum. I can't have you as well D:

Any reads on XRZ/Oats/JAT?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:37 GMT
#2191
btw, if Malongo ragequited he could be replaced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:42 GMT
#2193
On July 31 2013 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 23:37 Koshi wrote:
btw, if Malongo ragequited he could be replaced.


yea and in bluelightz mafia DrH ragequitted and onegu replaced him who was scum.

what's your point?

I don't know if what your read of DH was before he ragequited. But in this game you can give Malongo a town read? That shit with your fake claim was town right?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:48 GMT
#2195
On July 31 2013 23:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 23:42 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 31 2013 23:37 Koshi wrote:
btw, if Malongo ragequited he could be replaced.


yea and in bluelightz mafia DrH ragequitted and onegu replaced him who was scum.

what's your point?

I don't know if what your read of DH was before he ragequited. But in this game you can give Malongo a town read? That shit with your fake claim was town right?


I didn't think he was scum until he self-voted. If you aren't scum at that point you're just a scrub, and aint nobody got time for that

Ok. Agreed.
But I need to find scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 14:56 GMT
#2197
Traveling home. Will be playing activily again in 2 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 15:51 GMT
#2218
On August 01 2013 00:42 exarezee wrote:
just lynch scum malongo today please. No reason to look anywhere else today. Then probably lynch koshi. I should look a lot better to everybody if malongo flips scum. Can't believe there are people that actually think malongo looks town.

For having played 200 games, and a lot of those played turbo games you are extremely limited with giving out reads + reasons. It's insane how great your case on Malongo is.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 15:55 GMT
#2220
On August 01 2013 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read xrzs filter. I'm leaning town on him. Many things he say make sense. If he is scum he is hiding this really good.
For now the best lynch is koshi in my eyes.
##Vote: Koshi

I will be at a meeting from now on and not be able to follow the game or post. I will be back before the deadline (I hope several hours before).

Also pretty good case on why XRZ is town. Many things make sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 16:00 GMT
#2222
##unvote
##vote: justanothertownie


Reason:
Useless. Promises to make cases but never comes through. AFK before lynches and lurking during lynching because everything goes like "planned".
Even with my excessive trolling and Malongo martyring I can't believe anybody would want to take this guy into lylo.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 16:05 GMT
#2224
On August 01 2013 00:59 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 01 2013 00:42 exarezee wrote:
just lynch scum malongo today please. No reason to look anywhere else today. Then probably lynch koshi. I should look a lot better to everybody if malongo flips scum. Can't believe there are people that actually think malongo looks town.

For having played 200 games, and a lot of those played turbo games you are extremely limited with giving out reads + reasons. It's insane how great your case on Malongo is.


how about you answer this before i can start to take you seriously again.

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On July 31 2013 00:34 exarezee wrote:
Can you please address this koshi?

And if you don't respond to this, or respond unicorn or candyland. I am going to probably have to vote you every day as long as I'm alive.
On July 31 2013 00:03 exarezee wrote:
Can't believe I missed this.

On July 29 2013 21:39 Koshi wrote:
XRZ boasts about having played over 200 games, has 7 pages of filter and can be placed next to oats this game. They talk alot about small things, I am not leaning neiter town nor scum. They should not fear any lynching from me yet.


On July 29 2013 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Here is the scumteam:

1) hzflank
2) Oatsmaster
3) XRZ

You can thank me later town. Please put flowers on my grave.


What in the world happened in these 2 hours for me and oats BOTH to go from null reads to being on the scumteam? Probably need to lynch koshi at some point too.



On July 29 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Scum is showing massive balls this game. such big balls I don't want to lynch VA anymore.
\
who are the 4 mysterious scum players koshi?[/QUOTE]

On July 29 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Scum is showing massive balls this game. such big balls I don't want to lynch VA anymore.
\
who are the 4 mysterious scum players koshi?

I don't know. That's the problem. It's crazy. I know of 1. But we don't agree even though my case is so compelling. I shall make a compilation before the night ends. Vivax is pushing me to look at clarity and XRZ but if they join hz in a scumteam this is the most incredible scumteam ever. Imagine you joining them. jeezus.


I called Oats out on the fact that he was being the thread police in day 1. I think that combined with Vivax making you look bad made me post that. It's a bad post. No reasoning and a lot of bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 17:39 GMT
#2266
We are all yelling different names. So unbelievable.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 17:56 GMT
#2272
hz, I don't understand what you are saying btw. I would comment on it but I don't get it.
Rayn has 4 solid townreads. On top of that he says that XRZ and JAT look town, so together with him that is 7 townies. Now you ask me if he plays like he knows all this?

He isn't yelling he found all scum like I would do -_-
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 18:29 GMT
#2282
On August 01 2013 03:23 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:48 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:33 hzflank wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:13 FirmTofu wrote:
@Everyone here right now
What do you guys think of a rayn lynch?


Something for you to think about. I touched on this in my recent post about Clarity. This is something everyone should of already thought of, but it would have been bad for me to post about this early day 2 as I wanted to wait and see reactions.

Rayn thinks that Vayne, Clarity and I are absolutely confirmed town. If the 4 of us are in fact town then scum would know this. Scum cannot leave that situation as it is. Rayn and I also have Stutters as town, which if true makes the situation even worse for scum.

Therefore, if Rayn is town he should have been looking unfavourably on people who were trying to make the supposedly confirmed town people distrust each other. This does not mean that the 5 people mentioned here are in fact all town. It means that Rayn is so sure that the other 4 are town that he cannot help but think that people who are messing with that are scummy (this might not even be conscious thought).

So if you want to get a better read on Rayn then I suggest you ask yourself: is he playing as town-Rayn should considering that he has 4 solid town reads?

Since when does he think you guys are confirmed town? He's been flip-flopping on his reads every three pages. Just a few pages ago he was questioning Clarity. Before Day started, he had you as scum(my).We need to start holding him accountable for these drastic and completely unjustifiable read changes. Town rayn does not play this way. He is more methodical and you can clearly see his train of thought.

Additionaly, you are considering hypotheticals that aren't necessarily particularly likely. What makes you think all of those people are town in the first place? It's a pretty huge leap of faith to take considering they haven't really been in the forefront of discussion until just recently.

Fuck you! I have justified EVERY single read change of mine! EWvery single one, when asked!

YOU HAVE NOT!

##Unvote:
##Vote: FirmTofu

I am NOT going to change my vote off this mafia member any more. This bullshit has gone so fucking far it´s not funny anymore. Can the town member pease look about this game FOR A FUCKING SECOND objectively and vote for scum???

Cora, Oats plays not like in bluelightz mafia, he plays like in NWM. You are probably scum because you didn´t even read my case apparently.

Seriously, wtf is with this town? Everybody is just fucking hopping around talking about some stupid claims and not having a clear stance. The fucking discussion has been going on about the claims FOR A FUCKING DAY and ~8 people can´t decide what to think of them?!?!?!? Get your fucking heads out of your asses and talk about something relevant instead!


can we please just all get on malongo please. i don't want the risk of anything stupid happening. I won't be here on computer at end of day. I will be on phone to try to prevent something stupid happening, but that's about it.

Could you please quote the post where you make a case against malongo? I can't find it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 18:37 GMT
#2286
hz.

1) I agree that rayn has been very consistent with his voting.
2) Stutters jumping to all the places can be seen in day 1 as well when he says something different about FT each second. I made a case.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 18:47 GMT
#2295
On August 01 2013 03:45 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 03:43 exarezee wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:23 exarezee wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:48 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:33 hzflank wrote:
On August 01 2013 02:13 FirmTofu wrote:
@Everyone here right now
What do you guys think of a rayn lynch?


Something for you to think about. I touched on this in my recent post about Clarity. This is something everyone should of already thought of, but it would have been bad for me to post about this early day 2 as I wanted to wait and see reactions.

Rayn thinks that Vayne, Clarity and I are absolutely confirmed town. If the 4 of us are in fact town then scum would know this. Scum cannot leave that situation as it is. Rayn and I also have Stutters as town, which if true makes the situation even worse for scum.

Therefore, if Rayn is town he should have been looking unfavourably on people who were trying to make the supposedly confirmed town people distrust each other. This does not mean that the 5 people mentioned here are in fact all town. It means that Rayn is so sure that the other 4 are town that he cannot help but think that people who are messing with that are scummy (this might not even be conscious thought).

So if you want to get a better read on Rayn then I suggest you ask yourself: is he playing as town-Rayn should considering that he has 4 solid town reads?

Since when does he think you guys are confirmed town? He's been flip-flopping on his reads every three pages. Just a few pages ago he was questioning Clarity. Before Day started, he had you as scum(my).We need to start holding him accountable for these drastic and completely unjustifiable read changes. Town rayn does not play this way. He is more methodical and you can clearly see his train of thought.

Additionaly, you are considering hypotheticals that aren't necessarily particularly likely. What makes you think all of those people are town in the first place? It's a pretty huge leap of faith to take considering they haven't really been in the forefront of discussion until just recently.

Fuck you! I have justified EVERY single read change of mine! EWvery single one, when asked!

YOU HAVE NOT!

##Unvote:
##Vote: FirmTofu

I am NOT going to change my vote off this mafia member any more. This bullshit has gone so fucking far it´s not funny anymore. Can the town member pease look about this game FOR A FUCKING SECOND objectively and vote for scum???

Cora, Oats plays not like in bluelightz mafia, he plays like in NWM. You are probably scum because you didn´t even read my case apparently.

Seriously, wtf is with this town? Everybody is just fucking hopping around talking about some stupid claims and not having a clear stance. The fucking discussion has been going on about the claims FOR A FUCKING DAY and ~8 people can´t decide what to think of them?!?!?!? Get your fucking heads out of your asses and talk about something relevant instead!


can we please just all get on malongo please. i don't want the risk of anything stupid happening. I won't be here on computer at end of day. I will be on phone to try to prevent something stupid happening, but that's about it.

Could you please quote the post where you make a case against malongo? I can't find it.


My case is he's fucking self-voting (not allowed by rules). He's either fail town for ruining the game and should get a ban or something or he's scum that doesn't want to out any of his scumbuddies by posting further.


same freaking reasoning why i was voting you earlier.

But Malongo has been a scumtarget off you since forever? What was the reason before that?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 19:01 GMT
#2304
On August 01 2013 03:53 exarezee wrote:
You can look at my filter for Day 2 if you want. It's really not that long.

Ok I see. But to me Malongo comes out town in that exchange with Vayne... Damn. Did you read what people said about it? That Malongo tried to sacrifice himself to prove Vayne lied and therefore found a scum? (or the person that told Vayne through PM -_-)
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