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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 09:04 GMT
#2127
On July 31 2013 17:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
oh and before I go Koshi, it's not that you've played bad, it's that you've done so intentionally.

I realize that. But here am I apologizing to town and try to salvage me playing bad.

I don't think that I am the first guy to have intentionally played bad for 48 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 10:19 GMT
#2129
justanothertownie. Where are you standing atm?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 10:20 GMT
#2130
reads. Scum and town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 10:43 GMT
#2131
You haven't done much scumhunting on Day 2. It's close to impossible to know where you stand.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:01 GMT
#2133
Damned this isn't moving forward.

Just understand that it is stupid to say that Malongo, FT and me are connected and that you solved the damn game. FT is looking town 24/7, a lynch on JAT will prove that further, as I will be very surprised if he flips green. But even preflip his voting behaviour is really good, so is his play.
Malongo is town, fuck it guys, remove all the stupidity and his play is green, unlike me this guy did not clusterfuck the thread. Read my previous post about Malongo to see he is town.
My play is pretty red, because I did clusterfuck and took a lot of time away from town to do useful things. On top of that my scumbuddies could buss me really really easy if I just went afk after the trolling.

People like rayn, XRZ are being extremely tunneled if they believe FT is scum, and if they do, they should never link that to Malango or me. Or the other way around... It's too easy. Way too easy and both these players know better.
Let's take a look at these posts:

On July 31 2013 04:22 exarezee wrote:
I mean this discussion is off topic. But what else is there to talk about? Lynch koshi+malongo. See who dies, try to figure more stuff out. I highly doubt anybody is going to convince me not to vote koshi today and malongo tomorrow.


On July 31 2013 04:27 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 04:23 hzflank wrote:
There is lots to talk about...we just have to find it first. if you have not done so yet read pages 77-80 a few times.


I mean, we're like all in agreement that koshi and malongo need to go. We're going to be speculating so far down the road that I just don't feel like it's worth it. I've already got a scum team in mind that i can post arguments for if koshi and malongo flip scum, but I can make that post in N2.

What do you wan to talk about? Do you want me to convince you that I think koshi/malongo/tofu is a likely scum trio? Do you want me to listen to some argument you have that koshi/malongo are not scum?

I seem to be repeating myself because I don't know what else to say right now at this point in the game that cannot be said during N2, when we have more information.

On July 31 2013 04:28 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Koshi, FT and Malongo are scum. I am starting to lean on scum on Cora.
What do you guys think?


my scum team is koshi, ft,malongo, clarity.


On July 31 2013 04:30 exarezee wrote:
if koshi flips scum, i'm autovoting mal the next day. if mal flips scum, i'm autovoting tofu. then i have a dilemma.

if koshi flips town, i probably just concede the game and blame it on koshi.

This is the scumhunting XRZ has done Day 2. It's just bad. It's bad and he isn't even pretending to be bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:01 GMT
#2135
On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:

I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.

If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.

But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:06 GMT
#2136
I would never defend you as scum and troll so hard and then come back on everything I said.
If you were town and I would be scum. I would just ride the JAT wagon. There were 3 or 4 votes on you when I woke up, I was honestly surprised that was the case and it was the catalysator of my insanity for a part.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:10 GMT
#2137
JAT, could you look at XRZ? Could you make a solid case on him? Town/scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:18 GMT
#2139
The reason why this is so important that town knows that you are 100% town is the following:

1) If I get lynched today people will see me flip green, you will get a shitton of flak on you tomorrow and it doesn't look like you will be able to defend yourself from what I have seen. (you always defend yourself, but yours scumhunting is lacking and your defense currently as well.) If you flip town after I was lynched, town is fucked.

2) If you flip town today I will get a motherload of shit over me tomorrow. And frankly, I will get lynched and can't blame anybody. I will flip town then and town is fucked.


Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win. I think that I the highest chance on a scumflip is you are XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:20 GMT
#2141
EDIT

Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win and I can survive. I think that the highest chance on a scumflip is you or XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:23 GMT
#2145
On July 31 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS

You call that a good read?

You and FT have a special bond. I would encourage you to look past all the things FT says about you and focus on his play not concerning yourself. FT needs to come through with 3 more cases of his scumreads, read them and base your suspicion on that.
It sucks that FT thinks you are scum but the best advice I can give you is to look at FT his play besides that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:24 GMT
#2147
On July 31 2013 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:18 Koshi wrote:
The reason why this is so important that town knows that you are 100% town is the following:

1) If I get lynched today people will see me flip green, you will get a shitton of flak on you tomorrow and it doesn't look like you will be able to defend yourself from what I have seen. (you always defend yourself, but yours scumhunting is lacking and your defense currently as well.) If you flip town after I was lynched, town is fucked.

2) If you flip town today I will get a motherload of shit over me tomorrow. And frankly, I will get lynched and can't blame anybody. I will flip town then and town is fucked.


Fact is that I, Koshi need a red flip today to make sure town has a chance to win. I think that I the highest chance on a scumflip is you are XRZ. So proof today that you are town, even if I get lynched today town will be able to use that defense to look elsewhere tomorrow.

So you are using fear to make people not vote for their scumreads (in this case you)? That´s classic mafia play.
"You will be lynched tomorrow when i flip green" - fucking retarded defense.

I am also trying to give better lynch targets. I agree that I use fear but I use it to make people think. Not to make them not vote me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:25 GMT
#2148
On July 31 2013 21:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Where I am standing right now:

I think you are probably scum. I liked your reads earlier (apart from the lists) and especially your case on hz but since then you only trolled. That's not that indicative I guess but when people attacked you you didn't defend yourself properly and your strategy to avoid being lynched is to paint me scummy. Not because I really am your biggest scumread but because you think I am the only one who you could get enough people to vote for. You turned 180 on me based on posts that were available to you when you said you were sure I'm town it doesn't make any sense. You should try to get scum lynched as town and not only someone who isn't you. I'm starting to think you only defended me for being new at the start because you knew I was telling the truth because you are scum and it is easy to be correct about townies as scum.

If you are scum hz is less likely to be scum. This matches my recent feel about his play. I will elaborate on this in a second.

But why would I do it as scum? Why would I do all this as scum?

Why would you do it as town?

Because I am fucking horrible.

I have not lynched in all the games I have played, not even been close, I was just testing the waters and see what it brings me. It brought me doom.

I wont be this kinda play in the future. Not as town not as scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:27 GMT
#2149
Fuck my english.

EBWOP:

1) I have not been lynched before
2) I will not be using this kinda play in the future
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:29 GMT
#2151
Also, fuck it. I could do it as scum as well.

Fact is that town is going straight to a lylo situation and I shall at least not allow my scumreads to ride in their easily because of me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:30 GMT
#2152
On July 31 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 21:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 31 2013 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, if you, Malongo and FT are town who is scum?
Look at FT´s read on me, it´s:
D1 - OMGUS
N1 - "rayn raid Vivax might be scum, when stuff happened he said he is probably town"
D2 - OMGUS

You call that a good read?

You and FT have a special bond. I would encourage you to look past all the things FT says about you and focus on his play not concerning yourself. FT needs to come through with 3 more cases of his scumreads, read them and base your suspicion on that.
It sucks that FT thinks you are scum but the best advice I can give you is to look at FT his play besides that.

No, the point is in his case he does not give a single reason that makes me scum!!!
Also why does it suck to you that FT thinks i am scum? You seem to think that yourself. The wording you use is incredibly odd from town perspective.

Yeah, I think you could be scum. But that feeling is there because you are treating me a bit the same as in I swear 2. But that feeling prevents me to look at you closely for the moment. I want more information on JAT and XRZ. Could you help me on this? Tell me why they are worse lynches than me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 12:54 GMT
#2157
On July 31 2013 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
XRZ looks really town from his contributions from D2. He is trying to push his scumreads, in fact he is only focused on doing so. He only talks about people he finds suspicious. In the argument between me-him-hz he thought i said something scummy (wrong), if he was mafia he would have let go of the argument earlier because he would know he is wrong. Everything he has done on D2 screams town to me.

Next JAT.

But he doesn't even say why we are scummy, and on top of that he gives himself outs when we would flip town. Except in 1 post where he actually say he doesn't need to give himself outs for when we flip green...

His scum reasons seem to be association and stupidity.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 13:24 GMT
#2162
On July 31 2013 22:17 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, Koshi was your top scumread. What made you change your mind on him? Or if you did not change your mind, why the fuck are you voting for a target of your scumread?


You should ask that question both ways. Oats was also Koshi's top scum read and it was not greatly followed up.

It was a complete insane idea of mine. I couldn't follow it up because it was insane. Also, nobody should be blamed for seeing me differently today as yesterday. I think the quality of my posts now allows that.


What do you think of a JAT or XRZ lynch today hzflank?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 13:46 GMT
#2165
On July 31 2013 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is Oats scum?

Rayn I really need a red flip now. For me, it is best to go and look around at JAT/XRZ.

There is a possibility that we got to look at FT/Oats instead, but if they are scum. They tricked me. The 2 times I played with Oats he was the opposite as now.
Scum in NWM where he was not this active softdefending Ace a bit but all in all a lurker. As town in sicilian he forgot to do night actions as a parity cop...

FT is doing the same thing game after game and he is always town. He starts with 2-3 pretty controverse statements and then rolls from there. I think he did the same here, that with his vote behaviour/scumhunting early on made me think he looked really town this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2013 13:58 GMT
#2169
XRZ looks so bad though.

In the night he was a believer of the hzcase I made. He commented twice on it that he approved of it, and then never came back on it. Without much words/accusations XRZ made it possible for him to vote on so many people, probably because he thought I wouldn't come back in this fashion, all other people like FT, Oats and hz kept looking around. XRZ never gave that impression on day 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
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