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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:33 GMT
#2229
CJS I really want to justify lynching him, but rayn is probably right for his fakeclaim not making sense, and hz is definitely right about him (if town) more likely being blue.
Meaning he's going to die sooner or later anyway. If he's alive d4, then yeah.

I think you're pretty cool though CJS, other then thoughts about vayne, what ye been thinking about?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:42 GMT
#2231
Yeah, whadye make of this:
On July 31 2013 01:31 exarezee wrote:
1. Oatsmaster - town
2. Vivax the Third Class Passenger
3. Clarity_nl - town
4. IMCaptainJackSparrow - town
5. raynpelikoneet - town
6. Paperscraps the Third Class Passenger
7. Malongo - scum
8. VayneAuthority - town
9. Stutters695
10. hzflank - town
11. Koshi - scum
12. FirmTofu
13. justanothertownie
14. exarezee - town

Just my reads at the moment and something I can look back at. It looks like my current scum team is koshi, malongo and 2/3 from stutters, tofu, JAT. will look to see what makes the most sense to me.

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:47 GMT
#2233
No he basically talked about hz's claim, my claim, did some defending.... if he expanded upon any of it I don't remember.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:48 GMT
#2234
I mean, he pushed Koshi but who fucking hasnt
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:54 GMT
#2236
Has anything changed about that list for you since, xrz?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 16:55 GMT
#2238
There's this thing called notepad. You're saying you posted that list with the only reason being that you needed a place to put it? wtf dude
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:04 GMT
#2244
It was OMGUS really.. main reason I got there was because I was looking for associations with Vivax.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:06 GMT
#2245
postgame I'd be interested in why I'm scum if you ignored the roleblock claim
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:09 GMT
#2247
On August 01 2013 02:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
you need to read the game before making associations if you want a serious response. I said multiple times that all my reads day 1 were fake and contrived to throw scum off. I never for a second thought vivax was actually scum given how much he was posting. They still killed him though since nobody shared my sentiments.


Okay so you're saying that ALL your reads. Like, every single one of them. ALL OF THEM.
SO MANY THAT I CANT EVEN COUNT.

They are all serious?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:25 GMT
#2259
Yes let's just all not post any reads so that scum can't manipulate us. But wait, how are we supposed to find scum again?
Either you're scum, vayne, or you have some kind of ego problem where you tell yourself "okay while everyone else plays the game like idiots I'll just sit atop my throne and not speak unless I am sure about my reads"

"BUT WAIT, that's not all, on day 1 I'll give out FAKE reads, and on day 2 I'll do a fakeclaim to gather information which I WONT FUCKING DO ANYTHING WITH.

You know what, let's just policy lynch this martyr and make sure we don't talk about anything else for the remainder of the day."

Sound about right?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:27 GMT
#2260
There's a reason we post reads, it's so that town can read us.
If you don't, you make yourself unreadable, which is (if allowed by a dumb town) the easiest way to play scum
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#2262
how can one person make the game so fucking unenjoyable
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 18:44 GMT
#2292
@hz

I think this post
On August 01 2013 02:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Assumption. I plan for the worst, and a successful janitor kill practically ends us if we have Mal& Oats alive in LYLO.


In context, rearranged: We are screwed if Mal and Oats are alive in LYLO

He's implying scum in both
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 19:45 GMT
#2321
On August 01 2013 04:36 hzflank wrote:
Clarity, you here? Want to bounce some stuff back and forth? I see two sides forming, one is scum and the other is town. I am just not sure which is which.


I'm keeping up with the thread but am doing fun stuffs with peoples on the internet so don't expect me to filterdive deeply or anything anytime soon. I can bounce thoughts though, whatsup?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 19:46 GMT
#2322
On August 01 2013 04:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
here's something to think about hz

If rayn is the one leading scum right now ( which I think he is)

He said to have the doctor on vivax, so he thought he was the most dangerous/important player at the time.

Fast forward and vivax died that night. He then gave the fake "why wasn't doc on vivax!!" anger

that along with his questionable play this game leads me to believe he is scum, the subconscious speaks the truest!


You're implying a scum rayn knew there was no doc?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 19:49 GMT
#2325
On August 01 2013 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 01 2013 04:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
here's something to think about hz

If rayn is the one leading scum right now ( which I think he is)

He said to have the doctor on vivax, so he thought he was the most dangerous/important player at the time.

Fast forward and vivax died that night. He then gave the fake "why wasn't doc on vivax!!" anger

that along with his questionable play this game leads me to believe he is scum, the subconscious speaks the truest!


You're implying a scum rayn knew there was no doc?


its not like he can force the doctor to be on vivax. I'm not good at making cases but he scum. doesn't really matter right now tho
'


Yeah but, if he wanted Vivax dead why scream in thread "DOC VIVAX HES IMPORTANT"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 20:01 GMT
#2333
On August 01 2013 05:00 FirmTofu wrote:
The problem with that reasoning, hz, is that you have already taken a side yourself. You would be on the hypothetical scumteam with me Cora and koshi if we were to apply this logic without knowing your alignment. Don't you see how that is problematic?


Unless you think he's bussing his entire team at this point, not really.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 20:06 GMT
#2338
On August 01 2013 04:57 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 04:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 01 2013 04:36 hzflank wrote:
Clarity, you here? Want to bounce some stuff back and forth? I see two sides forming, one is scum and the other is town. I am just not sure which is which.


I'm keeping up with the thread but am doing fun stuffs with peoples on the internet so don't expect me to filterdive deeply or anything anytime soon. I can bounce thoughts though, whatsup?


Scum teams: Rayn/Stutters and probably Exar

Or

Cora/FT and probably Koshi

I wont bother trying to name the fourth member.

Stutters makes the 'scumslip' about a Janitor. I have personally seen such scumslips be real, but also I have seen them be false and used my scum to attack town for making a shitty scumslip.

Cora attacks Stutters for the scumslip. So I build on it with a joke scum-slip attack on Stutters. Stutters makes a response that might actually be a real scumslip. I am no psychiatrist, but I would think that if you think that someone is scum then you do not assume them town when you make a snap (instant) assumption.

That's not enough to know that Stutters is scum, so I need to prod. Exar begins to make shit posts. Rayn completely flips out in the thread. Note the previous interactions between Rayn and Stutters. When I called Stutters out N1 for his filter Rayn said that Stutters plays like this when he is scum. But Rayn never pressed Stutters on it and later got a solid town read on Stutters. Not long after that Rayn had Stutters as the possible fourth man in his most likely scum team. I propose that Rayn's recent flip out in the thread may have been designed to make things messy and stop people from talking about Stutters.

So I remind people of what Stutters posted. It gets a little attention but not much. Then Cora attacks Stutters again for the role scumslip.

Stutters has Cora as scum anyway so that should of set alarm bells off for a town-Cora. Rayn had Stutters as town and Cora as scum so Rayn should have been as happy to lynch Cora as FT after that. Then Stutters tells me that I should just forget it and vote FT.

Also consider that Rayn has Exar as town. I wont name everyones reads in this post as if I try it off the top of my head I will likely make mistakes.

Anyway, based on all of that, do you see the two sides formed? At least partially?


If I tilt my head and squint.

I can't read Koshi anymore. Yes he's been trying a bit now but that could just be his scumteam going: "wtf dude stop trolling you're screwing us over"
It could also him being town realizing how useless he was being.

If I had to pick one of those two groups (I'm not saying these are the actual possibilities) then I would go with rayn/stutters/xrz, my problem with this is stutters his response to vayne's fakeclaim is extremely town. So this only works if vayne is scum.

I find it dificult to see Koshi and CJS on the same scumteam although that's just feeling I don't have anything to back it up atm.

On August 01 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
if it helps, stutters is a lot more abrasive like this as town. His one scum game his filter reads very passively and he throws a couple cases around and agrees with people a lot.

Idk this game is confusing =/ still trying to figure out why town is so hesitant to lynch some one that isn't going to help us vote for scum or play the game.


Because this isn't some guy who can play well but has been under pressure for so long that he just goes "FUCK IT IM BAD VOTE MAHSELF", it's malongo.
Plus he might be modkilled or replaced tonight.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 20:08 GMT
#2340
On August 01 2013 05:03 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 05:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 01 2013 05:00 FirmTofu wrote:
The problem with that reasoning, hz, is that you have already taken a side yourself. You would be on the hypothetical scumteam with me Cora and koshi if we were to apply this logic without knowing your alignment. Don't you see how that is problematic?


Unless you think he's bussing his entire team at this point, not really.

Well his theory hinges on the scumteam NOT bussing anyone. I don't think any scum team would be that stupid.


My point is hz using this theory and putting himself on one of the scumteams is silly, and from his perspective his theory makes sense, regardless of if you can shoehorn him into one of the two "sides" or not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 31 2013 20:14 GMT
#2348
For some reason I thought it was the first half of the day, dunno why. Rayn flipping out makes a bit more sense now. Gonna finish up what I'm doing and go into thinktank mode.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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