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/unob /in Umasi will lynch me Day1 anyway.. | ||
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On July 31 2013 00:44 Onegu wrote: There are a few people I havent seen before I dont think you are alone, have fun, use your coaches they are awesome, and be active nothing worse than people only posting one time per day. Oh and before I forget lynch Alakaslam day 1 followed by Umasi K thx. Yeah.. that's totally not me >.> | ||
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On July 31 2013 08:43 DeusXmachina wrote: Also isn't excuses for not posting kind of a scummy thing to do? Basically saying "hey I can't post right now, but I don't want to call attention to myself for not posting, so here is my excuse" Why not just post a lot when you can and don't worry about the times you can't. @Umasi: remind me of Xzavier >.< | ||
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On July 31 2013 11:02 DeusXmachina wrote: I am going to take a stance. Reps is scummy. He is going completely overboard with the noobie innocence routine. He already let us know before the game started that he was new to mafia. Why does he have to keep reminding us. Furthermore, he says, "Trying not to be a hated lurker is kind-of hard". Why is it hard for you? Are you constantly reminded that you need to post but you are fearful of sticking your neck out. How scummy of you reps. Who else is with me? Vote him if you think he is scummy. | ||
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Umasi, you still online? | ||
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On July 31 2013 11:16 Holyflare wrote: Hold up there skippy, while yes, he has been somewhat repetitive, the day is young; he is after all new. I AM interested to hear his replies to the questions you have raised though. Logic flaw. Also why are you defending Reps? | ||
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So far no one has really said anything till now. Making posts is hard when people are just blibber blabbering about nothing. But till now making post are going to be a lot easier after the game has a little bit of suspense. @Deus: If you are gonna joke, joke. If you are gonna be serious, be serious. Don't mix those two. Also I know that mafia has flavor but use common language if you would be kind, such as town, scum, and lynch. These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling). I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted? Lastly, if you are voting, announce it in this thread as well. | ||
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On July 31 2013 11:55 Holyflare wrote: My thoughts on reps are still undertemined, the posts Deus is referring to are generally all pre-game. IF anything reps has progressed the discussion of the town through this post: That was actually a somewhat productive post. It got people talking, a pro-town move if any. He has mentioned being new once in this day so to call that into the open so soon is beyond me, I would have personally waited for another one or asked some leading questions. On July 31 2013 11:46 Holyflare wrote: I am not defending him, if anything his reply to Deus' post made me more suspicious of him. What I AM trying to avoid is a first few hour bandwagon that would deviate from discussions that we could potentially be having to determine who else is town. Contradiction? Only discussion that Reps's post brought up was this. On July 31 2013 08:16 Holyflare wrote: I am fully in agreement for lynching the quiet people and the non-contributive people as they don't reveal anything about themselves and could either be a bad town (which will screw us over in the late game) or scum. However, we should obviously have more discussion so that we get to know people more beforehand. On July 31 2013 08:22 Umasi wrote: well~assuming an apathetic poster is equally likely to be town or mafia and we lynch all lurkers (IE people who don't care) we gone be booooooned On July 31 2013 08:22 Umasi wrote: so basically, there's no correct way to deal with lurkers imo, you just have to pray they aren't in your game. Nothing particular useful, in my humble opinion. You stated your opinion and Umasi kind of dismissed it in joking manner. If you think this particular topic was a good starting point for a discussion which is evidence from the fact that you answered it and brought it in your 'defense' of Reps, why did you not keep this on the table and press others to voice their opinion on lurkers? | ||
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On July 31 2013 11:49 Holyflare wrote: There is also no logic flaw between wanting to hear replies to questions and telling him to slow down on the accusations. A more reasonable approach would have been to point out his suspicions and ask the questions, without the flat out balls to the wall scum call. Difference in opinions perhaps and I do see where you are coming from, however Deus has already posted his accusation on Reps and voted, there is no 'slowing down.' Also if you wanted to hear Reps' response, then it is quite unreasonable that you are told Deus to 'slow down.' If your approach to scum is pointing out suspicions and asking questions, why didn't you do that to either Reps or Deus? | ||
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On July 31 2013 12:11 Holyflare wrote: While I know what your intentions 'are', you have gone about it in the wrong way. You falsely accused someone of repetition when it has happened once, that is not a way to determine peoples alliances unless you mistakingly thought his post-game posts were in the day. It is also 4-5am in Europe so half the people won't reply for another few hours. I will also be off to bed shortly so if anyone has anything to ask me before I go, say it now please. It seems as if you know Reps' alliance, hmm.. Also if you read Deus' accusation, he did differentiate Reps' pre-game post and in-game post. | ||
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First of all, UMASI FIGHTING!! *Fangirl scream >.< Your thoughts on Holyflare, please. | ||
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On July 31 2013 12:05 DeusXmachina wrote: Reps is in no serious danger. If he is town he should be able to defend himself. The discussion is opening up. We can look at several important factors: 1. Is anyone trying to defend reps? 2. Who is not posting their opinion? 3. What does reps have to say in his defense? 4. I am sure you guys have more to add. Hopefully we can expose more than just reps intentions. First, answer those 3 yourself, then we talk. | ||
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These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling). I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted? I'm rereading these and going what the f.. Need a thorough explanation on this please. Also, when I ask nicely, do it please, before I get pissed. If you voted on the voting thread, announce it here in correct format. By the way, bold the damn thing. | ||
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I even express my disdain of scum in my first post. ... | ||
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On July 31 2013 12:25 Holyflare wrote: I have seen reps post only a few times and so my overall suspicion of him is still undertermined, if you can make a call off of 2 posts then go ahead. His reply to Deus increased my suspicion but that only makes me wonder if he is truly just a newbie bad town or a scum, not for certain, hence undertermined. His post asking about peoples views on lurkers is more productive in terms of getting the ball rolling than Deus' posts that Umasi has highlighted previously. However, I do not feel that talking about people's opinions on lurker votes was a good topic to get the ball rolling and so did not follow up on it. Let me just reiterate this for you, I am not on the defence of anyone here, I am pointing out the facts of what is occurring. Fair enough | ||
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On July 31 2013 12:31 DeusXmachina wrote: I would happily explain my first posts. I wanted to express my dislike for scum, however in this game they are called problems (bugs, out-of-date software, etc). I also asked people to respond by having them share their dislike. At most it is just a poor attempt to get some discussion going, and maybe a little dramatic. Fair enough. Would you kindly share your intention behind these line, please? It just bugs me more than anything. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? | ||
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"especially the small, easy to overlook ones" (is he talking about lurker or noob town looking scum, maybe?) "who else will chime in" (mafia trying to mingle among town?) "Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration" (scum that create chaos and frustration?) | ||
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Will be at home in couple of hours. Infi is in my radar. Will elaborate later. Hate list. Talking like robot is fun. | ||
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Fuck me.. Then sc_a.M looks fucking bad. Like seriously fucking bad. | ||
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As for Alakslam/Umasi, I have a gut feeling that one of them is a scum and it is screw us at the end. Deus' early aggression and "sticking to his gun" seems pretty town to me. As for sc_a.M, I would have much liked to see him modkilled. I don't know who you are.. When I looked at RDaneelOlivaw's filter, he didn't do shit. I will elaborate on further request. (I'm lazy and tired) | ||
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We have like an hour left right? Go scum hunt and do it quick. Do a quick analysis and an in-depth one. If you are a scum, then forget it. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:02 reps)squishy wrote: I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M. I am trying my best to get information out of people to help town win. I know I unvoted and voted other people but I do that to try to get people to talk. RDaneelOlivaw is busy or a lurker so he was my first vote. Usami defended me which I thought I could do my self so I thought he was defending me as a scum cover up changed my mind and went with infii because he seems pretty shady does no come up with answers but excuses. wtf man.. | ||
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I "am" switching to reps at the last minutes to secure a lynch if this is how it is going to go down. Reps, fuck you man. You had your chance. "Oh, I can vote this guy or that guy" is not going to cut it. Seriously, what is happening in this game.. | ||
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I'm waiting for Umasi to make a move. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:32 DeusXmachina wrote: Well Nightcat99 I wouldn't be so sure. We would be able to tell if he was being coached. It would make him more suspicious. A coach might tell him to push the newb routine because that might be his best chance of survival, if he is scum. To be honest, not convinced by this. | ||
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However what bothers me is that even if reps flips red, we can't be sure whether Umasi is a scum or town. From both town and scum point of view, this was a terrible play by Umasi. I thought he was smarter than this.. | ||
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Alakaslam, does Templar drop work in SCII? | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:55 reps)squishy wrote: Why are all the lurkers neutral? Look at sc_a.M voted for no lynch. I got infii to vote for me proving his no-lynch day one claim was only to hide under the covers. I am going to vote sc_a.M to see what the hell is up with him. These neutral lurkers man they seem pretty scummy to me. Every one that has voted for me ok we have 7 now get the other 5 to vote for sc_a.M to get him to talk if he doesn't talk he deserves a lynch. ##Unvote Usami ##vVOTE sc_a.M Are you fucking serious. Where have you been for past 1 hour? Too late now. | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:00 reps)squishy wrote: I know I am going to get lynched I just want to see what sc_a.M has to say. Damn lurker that pops in and goes with a no-lynch. Why would you not use your only tool. You don't do this 10 minutes before you die. | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:10 Zyrre wrote: Since Alakaslam and Umasi probably are not mafia now(or are taking on a mafia playstyle of the joker), can I please ask you to be more succint in your posts and not spam every single one of your thougts. Is this addressed to me? | ||
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Drop infi, that's all I'm going to say. | ||
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Like I said before, would have liked to see sc_a.M modkilled. | ||
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And for the last time, infi is town. | ||
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On August 02 2013 08:19 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2013 10:24 Nightcat99 wrote: Hello everyone i am the newbie nightcat reporting in for duty. + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2013 14:26 Nightcat99 wrote: I have a little problem with this post, i understand the fact that new player wants to tell other they are new, but this was one of the method i use last game to make myself look newer then you actually are. He didnt edit his post, he found out he cant edit his post at the middle of him posting and decided to tell us about it. There is just something fishy about that. Not necessarily the most to go on, but these two posts are a bit strangely contradictory. Really seems like there was an early game play to distract attention by getting everyone focused on squishy. I think one of the biggest things to do is go back and look at the instigators of the suspicscion on him. With that in mind, Gotard's early vote still strikes me as suspicious. It too looks like another attempt to kind of stir up the pot unnecessarily...he did try to explain it but I'm just not satisified. I have no clue what game alaksam is playing. That being said, he's gone so out of his way to demonstrate pro-towniness its a little strange...he was really working to position himself as in the clear if reps flipped green, which may just be good play but deserves to be remembered Usami's last minute switch was stupid as either mafia or townie...I don't really get a good read off of it Noncommittal much? Captatin obvious much? So who exactly do you think is the scum? | ||
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On August 02 2013 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Mega analysis post coming up by the way, I shall also try and vindicate myself within it for your peace of mind slam. Looking forward to this. | ||
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On August 02 2013 10:30 Nightcat99 wrote: I want to point out that slam and umasi bounded too quickly, i am not saying any of you two is scum. What i am saying is that if one of you is scum, the other would never seen it coming and that would in turn confuse us. You two are not keeping an watchful eye on each other. Agreed. | ||
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On August 02 2013 11:54 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: Right now the biggest read I think we are missing is gotard. He was super aggressive at the beginning for little reason, really tried to go after infii + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2013 20:28 Gotard wrote: This game will be hard. A lot of lurkers and two of the most confusing people in the whole universe: Umasi and Alakaslam. reps)squishy - He's posting isn't pro town whatsoever. Hue huehuehue. Really? If you are newbie better start posting reads/thought/analysis infii - My first post in my last game was pretty similar to what you have written right here. I was mafia. "acts generally neutral, seems like town." - being neutral is scummy. If you are town you want to post your reads and generate pro town content and not to look neutral. ##Vote: infii This seems like a pretty scummy thing to do so early in the game--stir up the game and try to get someone mislynched as fast as possible. The justification for the vote that he has been able to give was weak at best Not only that, but in that very same post he tried to implicate reps Here is a defense he offers for his vote... + Show Spoiler + On August 01 2013 03:00 Gotard wrote: Look at his 1st post. This is a useless list. Almost everyone is neutral. His argumentation is super weak. Zero quotes. Nothing. If you think someone is scummy put some effort into it. Posting like that is an easy way to fake some contribution which is scumy. Because it doesn't make much sense to lynch people randomly... Do you really expect that you will be 100% sure that someone is mafia before lynching that person? It could be valid, but I'm more inclined to think that he just picked a person who he could feasibly pin some blame on and ran with it. Not only that, he kept with the infinii shtick a long time, which leads me to believe that he was playing to set him up as a possible second lynching target. Likes this. In fact, I'll have to look at Gotard's filter tomorrow. | ||
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He was super pissed at me (twice) when I voted myself. | ||
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On August 05 2013 08:57 Alakaslam wrote: Yes, indeed you did. Sup musketeer? If you believe me anyway. Today, since it is night, don't say much more. But post your reads in case you die tonight, tomorrow around 08:00 GMT (+00:00) Roger. | ||
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Well if you read this I'm already dead now. Luckily, as I already claimed truthfully, I'm mason and my partner stim (who is confirmed now) will post this text for me. I will go over everyone still alive and explain my thoughts so far. With gotard and scam now lynched and killed as scum I were positive on 66% of my reads so far. As for Umasi, I'm still not clear of him, although he was the first one to vote gotard which makes him look pretty much town. Null read RDO, who was mentioned on several suspicious posts against him, was voted from gotard. Now that we know gotard was scum, it is less likely for RDO to also be scum because you usually don't vote on a scum partner as scum. Of course gotard could also have played a deceptive game to trick us into think exactly this but I doubt that, resembling sc_am's overall playstyle. Slightly town DeusX came pretty late yesterday but started immediately pressing on zyrre to vote gotard, like really hard. If he is scum that was pretty awesome play. That's why he is off my scum list for now. Pretty much town Stim is obviously mason, nothing to discuss here. town Slam was mostly supportive and helpful but still direct and brisk to suspicious characters. If you put the random talk aside it is not really hard to understand him. I think he got a pretty good understanding of the game and what is going on. Also I will salute him for his play if he actually is scum. Pretty much town Zyrre pretty much ignored the approaching deadline for a lynch and risked a possible no-lynch, which would be pretty bad as we know now. The cop claim logic from umasi convinced him then to switch votes, which is a reasonable argument. Overall he still acted anti-town with his behavior only because he was so sure about his reads. One could understand his thought process from town perspective but he still acted selfish, which is anti-town at that point of time. So even if he is town, with that kind of play I think he would still be the best candidate for lynch. Scum until proven wrong Nightcat's logic on the mason case was weird. (quote) If you reread it, I also faked suspicion on stim, because he didn't write for a long time and didn't know how to use the QT. And it was the only reasonable thing to do if you don't want to reveal your connection. As zyrre pointed out, he did vote pretty late against gotard, although he had a town read on gotard as he said before that, which seems fishy. Slightly scum Good luck hunting the last of the scum! -indigo jones | ||
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I would lynch Deus. | ||
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A good news is that there is no sk. A bad news is that this is the last day. | ||
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I shouldn't be alive really.. | ||
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Like literally, my head, my heart, and my body all disagree on who the scum is. Need some time to think. | ||
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On August 11 2013 02:52 Umasi wrote: I can't follow that. Can you explain why? Rather, deus goes absolutely fucking bonkers trying to get people to switch to gotard day two, why would he do that as scum? That's the biggest thing for me that makes me read him as town. Link me to it. | ||
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It's you Umasi or Deus. | ||
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I gotta hand it to him because he played this wisely. If you look closely, Gotard has almost no connection with Deus, even though Deus was tunneling him like a madman. He mostly relies on cases made by Umasi and Infi, little of his own. If you look at the situation then from scums' point of view, scam has given up, Gotard is in a hot spot, Alakaslam and Umasi is tight buddies mostly viewed as town (even though Umasi was under pressure), Infi and I are most likely to be mason buddies. Deus had to take some kind of dramatic stance if he wanted to survive. He buses Gotard and pressures Zyrr. Gotard voting for himself was some crazy shit I can't make out. If we get no lynch, we blame Zyrr. We we do get a lynch, he gets town cred and Zyrr is next on line. TL;DR: Deus played | ||
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I'm scum btw + Show Spoiler + jk XD | ||
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EITHER ALAKASLAM OR UMASI IS SCUM AND WILL FUCK US OVER AT THE END!! gg wp, Umasi ^^ | ||
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Also, it seems as in all four games that I played, I may suck at scumhunting (pretty awful I'll admit), but I'm pretty much confirmed town (yeah, in this game I was mason but still). | ||
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btw, majority lynch sucks.. On August 11 2013 05:58 Umasi wrote: the biggest scumtell was everyone who called me usami and continued calling me usami died. rofl. | ||
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