On August 03 2013 09:45 Nightcat99 wrote: i like to metion zyree hasnot posted for almost 30 hours now, i know holy got a town read from him, but i actually never did. His post were all a bunch of town read and null, i am not seeing how he could be consider as town.
And yeah neuter did i
150/337 (that is rounding down to give him the benefit of the doubt)
Number of posts that contain a quote and nothing else: 3/337
Number of posts that contain one line of utter non-contribution (not including a quote if it is in the post): 90/337 (Again massive round down)
Number of posts containing pointless videos or pictures: 14/337
This may seem exaggerated but sadly it is not. The point is, slam has contributed very very little. He spent all this time giving us a delightful 337 posts, wonderful videos, quoting half of the thread, writing one line non-sense, but NOT contributing.
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This was really pissing me off out in the desert. It's like only I can see it.
Alright, what specifically about this is scummy reasoning?
I am trying to tell you you are falling for TUNNEL. The very thing he accuses me of he does himself. But somehow you two will find some way to look at life through red glasses and say "no, you are cherry picking he is just scumhunt ing"
I realized I was doing te same thing- I am simply thinking it is deus because he makes hypocritical posts like the "town mistake" I "cherry picked" where first he says I made a big fuss about your vote swap (to distract from Gotard) and then Ebwops it to little stance.
But NOOOO, aLaKaSPaM is too bamcis to make mistakes and now he is making mistakes so he must be doing it on freaking purpose because he is scum. The reasoning is the same, you suddenly think I'm scum for the very reasons you thought I was town earlier- IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LYNCH ME SOONER!! People kept telling me to improve- well yeah I add shots & giggles because that helps me (& maybe town too) loosen up, but really if you think I'm not already doing my best lynch me for being anti town, worse anti town than RDO!
"no one No one is blinder... Than he Who will not see...
Apeture Mafia: this is the reference post. I want you to read this, and Nightcat99's filter. I swear, decide if you like me now because I will not deal with this. If we let the game get this far I swear I will be fighting against myself to not just hand it to the scum. of course assuming I use this meta over there.
On August 10 2013 12:07 DeusXmachina wrote: How was it a bus? We came very close to a no lynch
Dude you guys are even more literalist than me irl. And I have AS. Seriously! I could call it a bus! I'm just pointing out it is not proof that you are town any more than my earlier vote is, or withdraw your case!
On August 10 2013 11:14 Umasi wrote: Deus hasn't backed off very frequently, but I actually read pure aggression like his as a town trait =/
And writing a cake on StiM if he wasn't mason would be super friggen easy, and nothing he said would really divert it. He's played a super apathetic game for a confirmed town and it really really annoys me.
On August 10 2013 04:55 Umasi wrote: =/ the stance you took on me wasn't strong when you backed off immediately when I posted my read of gotard, and before that all you really said was YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM
The reason I think you're scum is that deus is overwhelmingly townie. he's been doing a hell of a lot more scumhunting than you, he's just been doing less talking. I disagree with some of what he's said (you not being around for lynches is really not scummy, it just means you were probably busy) but some of his other points do have merit, such as you never giving good reasoning for voting on RDO. Your stances on people always come after a post by someone else, you don't have many original thoughts on who's scum or not, you just take what someone says and roll with it.
StiM, you really need to get in here and do things, why AREN'T you abusing your mason confirmed town status? Driving me fucking bonkers.
Oh by the way, did you remember I wanted to avoid exposing you as cop at the time, right? So why would I tell town in case of this scenario (not knowing it was MYLO) "well folks I feel like the game is solved, deus is pretty solid town and stim/ nightcat confirmed, and I think Umasi cop slipped so all is cool, lynch RDO!"?
No. And this won't make sense but remember I am hearkening back to mindsets to try and make sense of my own posting. Things have developed since RDO lynch.
I don't think I understand what you're trying to say here, are you asking why you'd put yourself in a hole like that?
Pure aggression can be town. Does this mean te lack thereof MUST be scum? And is there no way a scum player can push mislynches and push an impending lynch when a good case has been made and no defense is thought o in the qt?
On August 10 2013 04:55 Umasi wrote: =/ the stance you took on me wasn't strong when you backed off immediately when I posted my read of gotard, and before that all you really said was YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM YOU SCUM
The reason I think you're scum is that deus is overwhelmingly townie. he's been doing a hell of a lot more scumhunting than you, he's just been doing less talking. I disagree with some of what he's said (you not being around for lynches is really not scummy, it just means you were probably busy) but some of his other points do have merit, such as you never giving good reasoning for voting on RDO. Your stances on people always come after a post by someone else, you don't have many original thoughts on who's scum or not, you just take what someone says and roll with it.
StiM, you really need to get in here and do things, why AREN'T you abusing your mason confirmed town status? Driving me fucking bonkers.
Oh by the way, did you remember I wanted to avoid exposing you as cop at the time, right? So why would I tell town in case of this scenario (not knowing it was MYLO) "well folks I feel like the game is solved, deus is pretty solid town and stim/ nightcat confirmed, and I think Umasi cop slipped so all is cool, lynch RDO!"?
No. And this won't make sense but remember I am hearkening back to mindsets to try and make sense of my own posting. Things have developed since RDO lynch.
What is this cop bs that you keep talking about. Show us where Umasi slipped it.
I was wrong anyway! But it influenced my actions and I quoted it before, I'll quote it again
On August 06 2013 08:17 Umasi wrote: stim, it's not what infii wants (although you can use that as reasoning) I want to hear YOUR thoughts haha Like, I'm kind of angry that you've been so not around, forty some hours of not posting. ~but me being angry at you is certainly nothing new :<
Holy balls looking for the "cop slip" ran across this, I totally missed this post at the time. if I was gone 40 hours in a row I didn't realize it, that must have been a time when work picked up- e.g. People hating mad at me in Washington or something.
uuuuuuh that post was addressed at Stim not Slam :<
Also, you were the one who pointed out the cop slip, weren't you?
On August 08 2013 07:10 Alakaslam wrote: Umasi whoever is left is pretty much totes town except deus & me
Deus is more town than me but you must hear me if mislynch gives game to scum
This is that situation where no-lynch is feasible, but I hope we don't do this. Nightcat is Vig, stim is mason, you are cop but that doesn't matter as much as I thought because I just realized because deus is probably gf- he will probably come back green to your check.
On July 31 2013 23:34 Nightcat99 wrote: I will give some opinion.
Alakaslam: I have played with him one whole game, and 95% of the time i still have no idea what he is saying. Dont ask me read about him, Lynch him before LYLO.
Umasi is a little strange to, especiallyy at the middle of the night with slam, but he recovers in the morning, i am not getting alot of scum tell from him.
Gotard is being scumy, Infil made 1 post on day 1 and call a bunch of ppl netural, thats pretty much how you shall feel on day 1 and the throws a vote on him, kind of strange.
I am off rep for now, there was quiet a bit of scum tell imo, but the chance of him actually just being new is quiet high as well, but i would like to ask Rep to point some fingers and tell us what you feel about people instead of responding nonsense.
I would much lynch a lurker then any one thats posting at the moment, but there are still time, every one shall give some opinion on what is going on.
So true, but not anymore- dang it
Nightcat u should have pushed my lynch before xD
Um so this is nuts. I think Actually I don't know who will die tonight.
On August 08 2013 08:31 Umasi wrote: I'm not the cop. A: Why did you think I was and B: Why would you point it out to the thread?
A: will find in your filter and B: initially I didn't want to. But it doesn't matter anymore; we are all as good as vt. I wanted to clear up why it is between DeusXmachina and I, otherwise, you are a potential candidate as well.
The voice of Indio speaks from the past! What does he say? He calls to me!
"Shut up you moron!"
...oh
or are you talking about something different and I'm just hopelessly confused
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
On August 08 2013 07:10 Alakaslam wrote: Umasi whoever is left is pretty much totes town except deus & me
Deus is more town than me but you must hear me if mislynch gives game to scum
This is that situation where no-lynch is feasible, but I hope we don't do this. Nightcat is Vig, stim is mason, you are cop but that doesn't matter as much as I thought because I just realized because deus is probably gf- he will probably come back green to your check.
On July 31 2013 23:34 Nightcat99 wrote: I will give some opinion.
Alakaslam: I have played with him one whole game, and 95% of the time i still have no idea what he is saying. Dont ask me read about him, Lynch him before LYLO.
Umasi is a little strange to, especiallyy at the middle of the night with slam, but he recovers in the morning, i am not getting alot of scum tell from him.
Gotard is being scumy, Infil made 1 post on day 1 and call a bunch of ppl netural, thats pretty much how you shall feel on day 1 and the throws a vote on him, kind of strange.
I am off rep for now, there was quiet a bit of scum tell imo, but the chance of him actually just being new is quiet high as well, but i would like to ask Rep to point some fingers and tell us what you feel about people instead of responding nonsense.
I would much lynch a lurker then any one thats posting at the moment, but there are still time, every one shall give some opinion on what is going on.
So true, but not anymore- dang it
Nightcat u should have pushed my lynch before xD
Um so this is nuts. I think Actually I don't know who will die tonight.
On August 08 2013 08:31 Umasi wrote: I'm not the cop. A: Why did you think I was and B: Why would you point it out to the thread?
A: will find in your filter and B: initially I didn't want to. But it doesn't matter anymore; we are all as good as vt. I wanted to clear up why it is between DeusXmachina and I, otherwise, you are a potential candidate as well.
The voice of Indio speaks from the past! What does he say? He calls to me!
"Shut up you moron!"
...oh
or are you talking about something different and I'm just hopelessly confused
Yes I was, I wasn't right was I? I thought we proved my thoughts to be a stretch, but I can't find it anywhere
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
What was my alignment?
How about the other guy?
How does this relate to this game?
Hopefully you guys can see that this post is pointless. Slam does this a lot. Who is he making a case against again? Oh right me! Why is he quoting Umasi and talking about him? It is completely irrelevant if you are trying to build a case against me. Slam does this sort of thing to appear like he contributing. He is trying to appear pro town. Pointless quote and useless followup. He still has not made a strong case against me. Ill say it again, he has been cherry picking town mistakes because he can't build a solid case.
On August 06 2013 08:17 Umasi wrote: stim, it's not what infii wants (although you can use that as reasoning) I want to hear YOUR thoughts haha Like, I'm kind of angry that you've been so not around, forty some hours of not posting. ~but me being angry at you is certainly nothing new :<
Holy balls looking for the "cop slip" ran across this, I totally missed this post at the time. if I was gone 40 hours in a row I didn't realize it, that must have been a time when work picked up- e.g. People hating mad at me in Washington or something.
I am still looking for the "cop slip"
Another great example. Why did you quote here just to say "I totally missed this post"? What the fuck. Do you have something to say about it?
On August 06 2013 05:29 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE RDO I have stronger townreads on deus and slam, stim is confirmed town, nightcat is probably confirmed town, so he's the odd one out. Will go take a longer look though.
On August 06 2013 05:43 Umasi wrote: nightcat is just confirmed not scum, could still be sk. Won't pursue that avenue of logic atm :< it's not relevant
This.
"I SAID SHADDAP"
Ok Ok
I hush now indio
See, this- but remember it was faulty, I didn't notice nightcats Vigi I just saw he was basically confirmed town
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
What was my alignment?
How about the other guy?
How does this relate to this game?
Hopefully you guys can see that this post is pointless. Slam does this a lot. Who is he making a case against again? Oh right me! Why is he quoting Umasi and talking about him? It is completely irrelevant if you are trying to build a case against me. Slam does this sort of thing to appear like he contributing. He is trying to appear pro town. Pointless quote and useless followup. He still has not made a strong case against me. Ill say it again, he has been cherry picking town mistakes because he can't build a solid case.
You don't want this answered because you play just like Tang.
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
What was my alignment?
How about the other guy?
How does this relate to this game?
Is there a reason you quoted me at all? You quoted me then addressed none of it =/
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
What was my alignment?
How about the other guy?
How does this relate to this game?
Is there a reason you quoted me at all? You quoted me then addressed none of it =/
I quoted it because it Summs up the false point of view quite nicely.
I can't call you a liar, but nothing short of proving that you are would work would it? So why the hell are we even playing- just give the game to DeusX, as frankly he deserves it! He has fought through absolutely crummy odds.
On August 10 2013 13:06 Umasi wrote: yeah, just making sure I didn't miss anything.
On August 10 2013 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:22 Umasi wrote: ##VOTE ALAKASLAM I have trouble asking you about your motivations because everything you've done this game has been "this guy posted a case, sheep it" "wait no my biggest scumread posted a case against someone else who might be scum, I'll roll with THAT."What you've done hasn't been as pro-town as deus, who has posted a lot of sense making posts, his defense of me would be strange if he was scum (and the defense itself is solid). So much of your posting is just irrational nonsense, and the things that you say actually pertaining to the game aren't actually helpful frequently. one good thing you've done is pressure me super obviously, which made me make my defense.
The biggest thing I read you town on besides that is deciding to vote Gotard, but you're later to the party than the other potential candidate, who pressures him a lot better constantly. For instance, why did you vote to lynch RDO? That was really poorly explained on your part.
Your individual posts don't read as scummy(just crazy), but the overall narrative IS, where you just hard follow towns opinion, and where you distance yourself from the reps lynch and then hammer it in.
Notice this, bringing it up as it is the most condensed case.
All of these things are true. You know what? I was in an offsite game once. I'm gonna have to use it as it affected the way I approach the game and reminds me of a point y'all just aren't seeing.
Bak to the offsite game. I understood the thread a lot better, and was kind of quiet compared to usual (I still double posted and said I thought x was scum and nobody could convince me otherwise but hey)
I knew the first lynch would be a mislynch, didn't know why he was being lynched but didn't fight it.
I then was able to see how motives are formed sometimes, and one guy I knew well started to his randomly say I was scum and push lynching me. In fact he started this day 1, nobody listened to him.
When I was nk'ed, he got a ton of towncred and could push any lynch he wanted practically but he was also taken out eventually.
What was my alignment?
How about the other guy?
How does this relate to this game?
Is there a reason you quoted me at all? You quoted me then addressed none of it =/
I quoted it because it Summs up the false point of view quite nicely.
I can't call you a liar, but nothing short of proving that you are would work would it? So why the hell are we even playing- just give the game to DeusX, as frankly he deserves it! He has fought through absolutely crummy odds.
But there is this
Deus plays just like my old Godfather.
You have nothing to back up shit like this. You never give us examples or solid analysis. Slam, please show us your best contribution in the first 10 pages of your filter and tell us why it is pro town.
EPT
