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Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:11 GMT
#1081
If anyone is unsure, please look at DeusX filter page 3 (last 41 hours). It already looked suspicous defending Umasi with 10 posts. And now look at his latest post! It's a fucking Dostojevskij book on why umasi is innocent. And a small note on the end agreeing with "everyone else" on gotard. (at the time of posting "everyone else was infii + the two others i suspect to be mafia (slam and umasi)).

Don't be stupid town, this lynch is incredibly important, especially if scam is gonna keep not playing the game.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:16 GMT
#1082
Also note the difference in DeusX behavior in day 1 and day 2 lynch. Both were unsure lynches until the end. In the first one no mafia was under suspicion, he then posted his aggressive rant about sticking to it and getting a lynch. Today when the alternative is mafia(umasi) he posts an almost unreadable book about umasis innocence.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
infii
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany153 Posts
August 04 2013 18:27 GMT
#1083
Zyrre, there are 5 votes now on gotard. (@nightcat you forgot to post in the vote thread)
Your points on your scum reads are acceptable but not enough to counter-bandwagon on either of them right now. We can discuss this on the next day.

What is your argumentation against voting gotard?

Btw, I'll be here until lynch if you want to know something from me.
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
August 04 2013 18:31 GMT
#1084
I'm cop. Checked RDO and he's scum.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 04 2013 18:34 GMT
#1085
On August 05 2013 03:16 Zyrre wrote:
Also note the difference in DeusX behavior in day 1 and day 2 lynch. Both were unsure lynches until the end. In the first one no mafia was under suspicion, he then posted his aggressive rant about sticking to it and getting a lynch. Today when the alternative is mafia(umasi) he posts an almost unreadable book about umasis innocence.


I don't even no way to say Zyrre. Your whole premise is based on Umasi being scum. That is soooooo stupid. What a shitty way to play. This guy MUST be scum. WAT OMG someone is defending him, then he must be SCUM OMG SCUM. Put some real thought into your reads for shits sake.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:35 GMT
#1086
He just seems like confused/new townie to me. Remember the mafia have at least two other mafias helping them in a private forum, and I assume the coach is in there as well. So bad townie is more likely then bad mafia.

Specify your big reasons you think he is scum if you want me to argue them.

If we lynch gotard and he is town as I think, the next day will be 8 players, 3 of which will be mafia, and also scam. So a very bad position for town. That's the reason I am trying to change this vote.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:36 GMT
#1087
No DeusX, if you read my posts you see that my premis is based on you being mafia
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:41 GMT
#1088
Wow, that's interesting.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
infii
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany153 Posts
August 04 2013 18:45 GMT
#1089
On August 05 2013 03:35 Zyrre wrote:
He just seems like confused/new townie to me. Remember the mafia have at least two other mafias helping them in a private forum, and I assume the coach is in there as well. So bad townie is more likely then bad mafia.

Specify your big reasons you think he is scum if you want me to argue them.

If we lynch gotard and he is town as I think, the next day will be 8 players, 3 of which will be mafia, and also scam. So a very bad position for town. That's the reason I am trying to change this vote.


Why did I even post huge-ass analysis if you are not willing to read them?
Take a look at what I wrote after night1, there are the reasons.

So you don't have anything to argue about, that is another way of saying you think gotard is town.
Then tell me what you think of his newest post:

On August 05 2013 03:31 Gotard wrote:
I'm cop. Checked RDO and he's scum.

Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:49 GMT
#1090
Im assuming you mean this one?
On August 04 2013 05:52 infii wrote:
Just caught up on the thread... honestly guys, what in the buttslapping fuck is going on here?
TIL I love and hate the game mafia. It feels like my brain is wrapped in barbed wire, but I love it! mwahahaah

...first things first:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:14 infii wrote:
On August 03 2013 07:50 Umasi wrote:
infii, did you even read the message I linked? The entire reason I unvoted is BECAUSE of what I thought of reps and you.
It was not clear that reps was going to be lynched, here's why:
If it were clear, then people wouldn't get angry at me for endangering the lynch. and the entire point behind my reasoning is that I'd have preferred a no lynch than a reps lynch.


Yes I read your post.
What I was trying to ask is: why did you unvote reps specifically at that time so close before lynch? What did you hope to accomplish by this?
As you stated reps convinced you to swap to a possible no-lynch with this argument: "I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M."
I just can't get my mind around how that sentence can change an opinion at all, and like I said, especially at that time.


Umasi, you still did not answer my question.

---

This is what I think is going on:
Umasi and Gotard: Both scum OR just one of them is scum.

If both scum
- pre lynch, existing connection between them, none took a stand against each other, which makes sense
- after lynch, suspicion on them went over the top, they decide that it's probably better to break the connection from a town viewpoint, and start accusing each over (gotard voted umasi, umasi's analysis stated that gotard is pretty much scum)
- if one gets lynched, the other one is pretty much free of suspicion because they took a stand against each other after lynch (which was already stated by someone)

If one of them is scum
- pre lynch, no connection between them, none took a stand against each other, which would be pure coincidence
- after lynch, with the fingers pointed at them, both take a stand against each other but only gotard specifically focuses only on umasi, while umasi did also analyse other possible scumreads with the conclusion, that gotard is the most scummy one.
Umasi's behaviour looks much more pro-town than gotard's. But that could also be just good scum play.
- the lynch will pretty much be 50/50 for flipping red, it doesn't even matter who gets voted.

As for my gut feeling I'm leaning slightly more towards gotard. We can still continue to interrogate Umasi on the next day, also I want a full-out defense from gotard.

##vote gotard

PS.: interesting post is coming up in couple minutes from me


I read it. The lynchpin seems to be that if only one of them is mafia because Umasis behaviour is more pro-town. I said that I believe he is just playing good scum play (you write that you think it is possible).
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:51 GMT
#1091
Not sure what I think of the claim yet. My biggest read was DeusX and only Umasi by extenstion, chose to vote Umasi to get a lynch. Still possible it is DeusX, Umasi, RDO.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 18:51 GMT
#1092
EBWOP: The lynchpin seems to be that if only one of them is mafia it must be Umasi because Umasis behaviour is more pro-town.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 18:57:46
August 04 2013 18:53 GMT
#1093
VOTE COUNT:

Gotard (4): Alakaslam, infii, Alakaslam, Umasi, DeusXmachina
Umasi (2): RDaneelOlivaw, Gotard, Alakaslam, Zyrre
sc_a.M (0): Umasi
DeusXmachina (0): Zyrre
RDaneelOlivaw (1): Gotard
No lynch (1): sc_a.M

Deadline is in ~ 1 hour. With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Currently no one is set to be lynched!

Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here.

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
August 04 2013 18:56 GMT
#1094
On August 05 2013 03:53 Ange777 wrote:
VOTE COUNT:

Gotard (4): Alakaslam, infii, Alakaslam, Umasi, DeusXmachina
Umasi (3): RDaneelOlivaw, Gotard, Alakaslam, Zyrre
sc_a.M (0): Umasi
DeusXmachina (0): Zyrre
RDaneelOlivaw (1): Gotard
No lynch (1): sc_a.M

Deadline is in ~ 1 hour. With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Currently no one is set to be lynched!

Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here.


This is wrong maybe because i didn't unvote Umasi?
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
August 04 2013 18:59 GMT
#1095
On August 05 2013 03:56 Gotard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 03:53 Ange777 wrote:
VOTE COUNT:

Gotard (4): Alakaslam, infii, Alakaslam, Umasi, DeusXmachina
Umasi (3): RDaneelOlivaw, Gotard, Alakaslam, Zyrre
sc_a.M (0): Umasi
DeusXmachina (0): Zyrre
RDaneelOlivaw (1): Gotard
No lynch (1): sc_a.M

Deadline is in ~ 1 hour. With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Currently no one is set to be lynched!

Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here.


This is wrong maybe because i didn't unvote Umasi?



It should be correct now. Next time use ##Unvote: Player XY if you decide to switch your vote.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 19:00 GMT
#1096
I think you should consider going back to usami gotard. Remember there might be one of these among the scum:
Human Error (Mafia Framer):
Each night, you can frame a target to invert the result of his alignment for the purpose of alignment checks.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 04 2013 19:03 GMT
#1097
On August 05 2013 03:36 Zyrre wrote:
No DeusX, if you read my posts you see that my premis is based on you being mafia


.... Do you even read what you write? Your premise is not based on Umasi being scum, rather it is based on me being scum? WATT. Over half of your reason for suspecting me is because I defend Umasi. You think I am mafia because I defend Umasi
(who you think is mafia). Ipso facto your premise is based on Umasi being scum. Like I have said before, I was suspicious of Umasi but the more I thought about the vote switch the more I came to realize he is not scum.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 19:03 GMT
#1098
One of my biggest reasons why I think DeusX is scum (and by extension, Usami):
Why would a town defend another player, which he doesnt know the alignment of, so hard?
If there are two people potentially being lynched, at least from my perspective, I simply try to argue for the one I find most likely to be scum. Perhaps noting any argumental errors others make when evaluating the other person.
But focusing a HUGE amount of posts and words on defending someone? Seems like only mafia would do that to me.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
August 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#1099
Funny that you asked the question at the same time deus And yes a large part of suspecting you was because of this, not all of it though.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
infii
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany153 Posts
August 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#1100
Zyrre we have less than one hour now, if you cause a no-lynch because you don't think he is scum, that will make you pretty much scum.
Remember that a no-lynch is not in the interest of town ESPECIALLY at this point.
Even if gotard is town and cop, he will be confirmed cop after lynch and we have a 100% scum (which would be rdo).

nightcat, you didn't post your vote in the vote thread
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