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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
getting scam out of the way is my focus atm. I'll dive RDO sometime, but not right now, I'm pretty burnt out from playing today. Was curious about zyrre since he hadn't posted for a while, so that's why I looked at him specifically. Gotard, because a lot of people lumped me and him together as scummates. If you guys want me to do the same kind of post analysis thing that I did for gotard and zyrre, I will, just not right now. I'd probably look at rdo, stim, and nightcat in some order. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
This has been the focus of my analysis after the reps lynch. For this reason alone I no longer suspect that Umasi is scum. I understand that it's not always in the best interest of mafia to blend in. Scum might draw attention to themselves if it means pushing an agenda or causing confusion. My opinion on Umasi is subject to change pending a really strong case against him. I would like to note that he seems overly-defensive at times. See Umasi's post here sc_a.M I think the best thing we can all hope for is a mod kill. I do not believe scam is scum. I read his actions as a complete lack of motivation with regards to this game. He does not even seem like he cares. In no way is he acting like a scum. He is not pushing an agenda, he is not causing confusion, he is not trying to get a townie lynched, and he is not blending in. I do not think we should waste our day 2 lynch on scam. RDaneelOlivaw See my previous post on him here He has become suspiciously active only after he was pressed to post more often. This was his response when I questioned him for lurking at the beginning of the game: On August 03 2013 09:56 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I decided to actually play the game. Yeah, I can see where its suspicious from your point of view. Once I actually made a couple posts defending myself and started reading the thread more closely I got hooked in I was unsatisfied with this answer. If I can find some additional compelling evidence against him I might press for a RDO lynch day 2. He is trying to blend in, and might be pushing an agenda. Think it's worth looking into. Zyrre I get a scummy vibe off of Zyrre. There is not a lot we can go off of because he has not posted much. He seems to be trying to blend in. He jumped on the wagon against reps offering absolutely nothing to the debate. He has not taken a STRONG stance on anyone at this point. His post regarding infii is hardly worth mentioning. Finally his reason for voting against reps did not seem well thought out, rather it seemed like something he provided to avoid suspicion. Nightcat Nightcat is similar to Zyrre in that he has not contributed much. I only like one post of his here. He has so many pointless 1-2 line posts that really bug me. Seems scummy. He has not taken a strong stance on anyone and seems to regurgitate a lot of info that others share. Seems like a blender. When I have a little more time I am going to go look at his previous mafia games and see if he behaves this way. StimaDDict I don't have much to say about Stim. His posts are absolute garbage. He was very harsh on reps which could have been a tactic to secure the lynch. I will also look into his previous games to see if he behaves this way (if he has any). Gotard Gotard is definately a lurker. He took a bizzare stance against infii. He has not had a whole lot of good posts. Feel like I am just repeating what others have said, but w/e it is the truth. This is actually getting really frustrating at this point. Ughh, moving on. Infii and Umasi have good posts articulating their suspicion of Gotard. They do a hell of a lot better than what I wrote. Honestly, I don't really have anything to add on Gotard. He seems like he is trying to blend in. Umasi's post: here and Infii's here Infii Not going to pursue him right now. He has some strong posts. Seems town at the moment. However, I disagree with his read on Umasi for reason that I already addressed above. I am not looking into anyone I did not cover in this list I plan on spending more time analyzing: 1. Zyrre 2. Nightcat 3.Stim In no particular order. Reads on the individuals I covered tonight 1. Scam - Unmotivated town. Hopefully gets mod killed. Not worth lynching day 2. 2. RDO - Scum. Seems to be attempting to blend in. Active in defending himself. Lurking day 1. 3. Zyrre - Scum or 3rd party. Lack of strong analytical posts. Doesn't really take aggressive stances on anyone. 4. Nighcat - Scum or 3rd party. Similar to Zyrre. 5. Stim - Undecided. Not helping town out at all. 6. Gotard - Scum. For reasons I share with a few others. I realize they all can't be scum. A few of them might be bad townies, or not motivated. A few of them might prove me wrong. Alas, that is undoubtedly one of the reasons this game can be very challenging. Favorites for lynching day 2 RDO, Gotard, and Nightcat/Zyrre As we get closer to the end of day two I will narrow this down. Finally, I copied Flare. All names are links to their filters. | ||
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Zyrre
Sweden291 Posts
To sc_a.M: please post asap during the day. At the very least tell us if you are reading the thread/playing the game or not. Writing a big post on someone, didn't have time to finish it(biggest scum read so far). Will post it later today. | ||
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
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Gotard
Poland446 Posts
On August 03 2013 07:05 infii wrote: At this point I looked weak/neutral because I didn't want to determine myself on something as it was still early on day1. So I was a possibly easy-to-lynch target from scum perspective. How you were easy-to-lynch target from scum perspective? You were "posting reads" and trying to look like a town. Reps was easy lynch because he didn't post anything that might look pro town. Scam is an easy lynch now. On August 03 2013 07:05 infii wrote: I defended myself like Gotard wanted - not enough. I wrote a wall of text going in-depth on my arguments in full detail - still not enough. You've never defended yourself. Never told us why nightcat was your 2nd scumread and when you explained your initial read on Umasi you've used his post after your read has been already posted. Where is logic in here? On August 03 2013 09:32 Alakaslam wrote: Also Gotard Umasi both hiding facts! Can be unintentional but ignoring convenient stuff. Is pushing agenda and confusing. But I am confusing. What "facts" are we hiding? You are confusing because you post some weird shit sometimes and you won't even bother explain it. Umasi: Most of what Gotard has posted about infii has had merit, which is why I voted him. He's been noncommittal, has posted excuses for not posting (it's too hard to do(fuck try anyway dammit)) tbth, I don't know what to think of gotard, since he's always kinda scummy to me, but never REALLY scummy. I still think that Gotard was pushing infii with legitimate points infii was a better target because he spent more time defending himself, the points brought up against him were strong and I agreed with them (go read gotards filter) (this also happens to be why holyflare lumped us together) Me and gotard being similarly suspicious of infii isn't weird, people who think that infii was town are weird, because he was scummy (not anymore) So he's changing his vote risking no-lynch because someone who is scummy brought good points. OK! He engages infii in useless discussion about no lynching or not. He's saying he's scummy because infii has different opinions, not because infii has scum motivations. Useless discussion? I wanted to get reasoning behind his thoughts. "discussion about no lynching or not" I was saying that lynching townie isn't useless for town because it gives information. I wasn't talking about no lynching. The rest of his filter (he doesn't post more till after lynch) is just null to me. He changed his vote mainly because my posts and then he decided that those posts were scummy. ##vote: Umasi | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Gotard (1): Alakaslam Umasi (1): RDaneelOlivaw sc_a.M (1): Umasi Deadline is in ~ 30 hours. With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Currently no one is set to be lynched! Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 03 2013 14:34 DeusXmachina wrote: For what reasons are you guys not suspicious of RDO? Irrelevant question to me as is false. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 03 2013 19:13 Gotard wrote: How you were easy-to-lynch target from scum perspective? You were "posting reads" and trying to look like a town. Reps was easy lynch because he didn't post anything that might look pro town. Scam is an easy lynch now. You've never defended yourself. Never told us why nightcat was your 2nd scumread and when you explained your initial read on Umasi you've used his post after your read has been already posted. Where is logic in here? What "facts" are we hiding? You are confusing because you post some weird shit sometimes and you won't even bother explain it. Umasi: So he's changing his vote risking no-lynch because someone who is scummy brought good points. OK! Useless discussion? I wanted to get reasoning behind his thoughts. "discussion about no lynching or not" I was saying that lynching townie isn't useless for town because it gives information. I wasn't talking about no lynching. He changed his vote mainly because my posts and then he decided that those posts were scummy. ##vote: Umasi Much easier to gauge motivation when someone is dealin with you directly! ##goes and unvote s, needs convincing to vote though, agrees with deus too! Explain your Uh Let me find what you did again | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
Zyuree is posting less and less, coming in to post 1 line and say he will post 5 hours ago and then disappear. Sc_am is completely gone, if hes not modkill i will be surprise, so i wont waste a vote on him. Umasi is defending himself decently but that vote change is still sucipious or mainly just pisses me off but i need more time to decide who to vote. On August 02 2013 05:29 StiMaDDict wrote: @Umasi: still a dick move to switch vote and afk. Drop infi, that's all I'm going to say. On August 02 2013 03:59 StiMaDDict wrote: infi played shitty. There is no real way I can defend him, other than the fact that you HAVE to trust me. Orginially i through you two were mason brothers because of these 2 post but hten i reread your filter and saw the next line. On August 02 2013 02:34 StiMaDDict wrote: I drop my suspicion on infi completely. This means you are not mason, so stim trusting you is not enough, i want to know why you are so sure. Rdo came back to play which is good, but i cant drop the feeling that hes just pushing people every one is pushing and i just dont have much of a town feel on him. Gotard come back to vote umasi, when they were both associated as scum team, do you guys feel like this is a method to not be caught together, gotard does feel kind of pro town to me this game so i am having some doubts. i am getting pro town reads on everyone else and have not seen anything i want to point out on them. | ||
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Gotard
Poland446 Posts
On August 04 2013 02:07 Alakaslam wrote: Oh yeah- if you thought reps was scummy why did you vote Indio? Because Infii was scummy in a lot less obvious way, he tried to hide. What Reps did happened in every single game I played and it always has been a town lynch. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 04 2013 02:47 Gotard wrote: Because Infii was scummy in a lot less obvious way, he tried to hide. What Reps did happened in every single game I played and it always has been a town lynch. Then why did you cast suspicion on him back when? That was not your stance at the time, although it may be now. More and more it looks like flare solved the game. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
My suspicions remain on usami for now, but I'm going to go back and do some reevaluating , I think scam just doesn't give a fuck. If you look at this post history you can see he's been on TL a lot fairly recently, if he we're mafia he'd probably be getting a lot of pressure from his team to post. Still hard to tell though obviously since he's done nothing. He doesn't seem to responding to the pressure he's gotten, so there more's not much we can do Anyway, more to come | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Gotard (0): Umasi (2): RDaneelOlivaw, Gotard sc_a.M (1): Umasi Deadline is in ~ 24,5 hours. With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Currently no one is set to be lynched! Voting is mandatory. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here. | ||
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