8 players. 2 scum.

Assuming we lynch wrongly today...
Night: 7 players. 2 scum.
Day: 6 players. 2 scum.

Assuming another mislynch...
Night: 5 players. 2 scum.
Day: 4 players. 2 scum.

This is 2-2.

We only have one mislynch left. We CANNOT mislynch twice in a row. If we mislynch today, we are at lylo the following day.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:10 GMT

#2234

On July 28 2013 14:05 jrkirby wrote:
FT, what changed your read on me to town?

I got a town check on cDg. I know I probably get town checks on scum, so this implicates cDg. cDg voted you.

So basically, my biggest scumread was bussing you. That didn't make any sense because scum couldn't afford to lose a member at this stage of the game. That would basically be gg. Bussing was not an option. Therefore, you had to be town.

Also, TG makes a lot more sense as scum considering Day 1 and how heavily he's pushing me today.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:11 GMT

#2237

On July 28 2013 14:08 jrkirby wrote:
The main thing I'm confused on is the 5T claim. Can someone link that for me?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=102#2027

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:12 GMT

#2238

On July 28 2013 14:11 jrkirby wrote:
Firmtofu, why did you not counter getmoripts claim when you had a town result on TAA?

Countering the claim would have served no purpose. I didn't know if I was sane. I knew that if he was town, he wouldn't know if he was sane. Also, scum don't make plays like that out of the blue. As soon as getmoript claimed, I had him pegged as town.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:14 GMT

#2241

More questions! More questions!

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:15 GMT

#2242

On July 28 2013 14:14 jrkirby wrote:
Did you ever ask getmoript if he knew he was sane? I didn't see that, so why didn't you?

I questioned his sanity, but I never asked him directly. I'll look up the post for you, give me a second.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:17 GMT

#2243

On July 28 2013 14:15 FirmTofu wrote:

Show nested quote +

I questioned his sanity, but I never asked him directly. I'll look up the post for you, give me a second.

On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?

I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.

Here is the post. TG kindly bolded the relevant information for me.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:22 GMT

#2246

On July 28 2013 14:21 cDgCorazon wrote:

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I'm literally posting this one thing and then going to sleep.

This is a 100% scum answer. If FirmTofu was town, he would be ok with being lynched in order to prove his point. It's already been figured out that we have room for mislynches. He only says this because he wants to survive. Guess who only cares about surviving? Scum.

It also says something that TG has poked a billion holes in FirmTofu's argument and FirmTofu refuses to address them in any way whatsoever.

That's the last of me. I'm going to bed. Make the right decision.

Why don't you play the game instead of forcing your scumbuddy to defend you? Seriously bro? Why can't we have a civil conversation about why you're scum and I'm not?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:24 GMT

#2247

That being said, I am perfectly OK with being lynched. I just want town to promise that they will lynch you AND TG when I flip town.

If town agrees to that, I'll vote myself.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:26 GMT

#2251

On July 28 2013 14:25 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I really want a lynch tonight, is vote count now:

2 jrkirby (me)
3 FirmTofu
3 Corazon

?

Yeah, you choose who dies. I have you as a town read. I've been pressuring you all game. You know you're town. Why would I suddenly switch you to a town read if I was scum?

I think that alone should convince you I'm town.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:28 GMT

#2255

On July 28 2013 14:27 TanGeng wrote:
If you flip town, I'll shut up for 2 day cycles and let you run the lynch wagon over Corazon and I.

Fair enough. I'll vote for myself if kirby chooses me. If Kirby chooses you, I'm voting for you.

Kirby's choice.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:28 GMT

#2256

On July 28 2013 14:27 Onegu wrote:

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You cant vote for yourself

Oh wow, you're right...

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:30 GMT

#2258

Well, we got 30 minutes left. I'm gonna be around to answer questions. If you are unclear about ANYTHING, please ask.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:31 GMT

#2261

On July 28 2013 14:30 Onegu wrote:
Awesome my #1 scum choice gets to choose who is lynched.

Actually, if I can't vote for myself, you and kirby choose who is lynched. You guys have to pick the same person though.

That's kind of awkward.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:31 GMT

#2262

On July 28 2013 14:30 TanGeng wrote:
How sure are you of your read, Tofu? Tell everyone else to vote you then.

Who's getting desperate now?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:32 GMT

#2264

Guys, you really should vote before the last minute. We could mistakenly no lynch if you wait too long. Panic is not good for town.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:34 GMT

#2267

On July 28 2013 14:33 jrkirby wrote:
Onegu, I know you're town. I'll vote for whoever you do.

This is good. This way, Onegu picks the lynch and can be more confident in his choice considering he has you as a scum read.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 28 2013 05:35 GMT

#2270

On July 28 2013 14:34 TanGeng wrote:
Look you have 3 votes on your candidate.

Corazon = 3
jrkirby = 2
Tofu = 2

I'll take the exchange though. If corazon flips town, you'll lead the lynch against yourself tomorrow? Just be sure to bring Vivax with you.

Well, I'll lead the lynch on Vivax if corazon flips town. I can promise that.