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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:07 GMT
#2232
On July 28 2013 14:03 jrkirby wrote:
With 9 players and 2 scum, we have 2 mislynches left, right?

8 players. 2 scum.

Assuming we lynch wrongly today...
Night: 7 players. 2 scum.
Day: 6 players. 2 scum.

Assuming another mislynch...
Night: 5 players. 2 scum.
Day: 4 players. 2 scum.

This is 2-2.

We only have one mislynch left. We CANNOT mislynch twice in a row. If we mislynch today, we are at lylo the following day.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:10 GMT
#2234
On July 28 2013 14:05 jrkirby wrote:
FT, what changed your read on me to town?

I got a town check on cDg. I know I probably get town checks on scum, so this implicates cDg. cDg voted you.

So basically, my biggest scumread was bussing you. That didn't make any sense because scum couldn't afford to lose a member at this stage of the game. That would basically be gg. Bussing was not an option. Therefore, you had to be town.

Also, TG makes a lot more sense as scum considering Day 1 and how heavily he's pushing me today.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:11 GMT
#2237
On July 28 2013 14:08 jrkirby wrote:
The main thing I'm confused on is the 5T claim. Can someone link that for me?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=102#2027
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:12 GMT
#2238
On July 28 2013 14:11 jrkirby wrote:
Firmtofu, why did you not counter getmoripts claim when you had a town result on TAA?

Countering the claim would have served no purpose. I didn't know if I was sane. I knew that if he was town, he wouldn't know if he was sane. Also, scum don't make plays like that out of the blue. As soon as getmoript claimed, I had him pegged as town.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:14 GMT
#2241
More questions! More questions!
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:15 GMT
#2242
On July 28 2013 14:14 jrkirby wrote:
Did you ever ask getmoript if he knew he was sane? I didn't see that, so why didn't you?

I questioned his sanity, but I never asked him directly. I'll look up the post for you, give me a second.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:17 GMT
#2243
On July 28 2013 14:15 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:14 jrkirby wrote:
Did you ever ask getmoript if he knew he was sane? I didn't see that, so why didn't you?

I questioned his sanity, but I never asked him directly. I'll look up the post for you, give me a second.

On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?


I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.

Here is the post. TG kindly bolded the relevant information for me.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:22 GMT
#2246
On July 28 2013 14:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:54 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 13:52 TanGeng wrote:
On July 28 2013 13:51 FirmTofu wrote:
How about this? If I'm wrong about Cora, you can always lynch me the following day. That would save us from lylo and give us enough of a shot to catch the last scum based on the flip.

But seriously, cDg is scum.


Why not the other way around. Lynch you today and Cora tomorrow.

Because a lynch on Cora wouldn't be as guarunteed as a lynch on me. There aren't as many people convinced that Cora is scum.

I'm literally posting this one thing and then going to sleep.

This is a 100% scum answer. If FirmTofu was town, he would be ok with being lynched in order to prove his point. It's already been figured out that we have room for mislynches. He only says this because he wants to survive. Guess who only cares about surviving? Scum.

It also says something that TG has poked a billion holes in FirmTofu's argument and FirmTofu refuses to address them in any way whatsoever.

That's the last of me. I'm going to bed. Make the right decision.

Why don't you play the game instead of forcing your scumbuddy to defend you? Seriously bro? Why can't we have a civil conversation about why you're scum and I'm not?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:24 GMT
#2247
That being said, I am perfectly OK with being lynched. I just want town to promise that they will lynch you AND TG when I flip town.

If town agrees to that, I'll vote myself.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:26 GMT
#2251
On July 28 2013 14:25 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I really want a lynch tonight, is vote count now:

2 jrkirby (me)
3 FirmTofu
3 Corazon

?

Yeah, you choose who dies. I have you as a town read. I've been pressuring you all game. You know you're town. Why would I suddenly switch you to a town read if I was scum?

I think that alone should convince you I'm town.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:28 GMT
#2255
On July 28 2013 14:27 TanGeng wrote:
If you flip town, I'll shut up for 2 day cycles and let you run the lynch wagon over Corazon and I.

Fair enough. I'll vote for myself if kirby chooses me. If Kirby chooses you, I'm voting for you.

Kirby's choice.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:28 GMT
#2256
On July 28 2013 14:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:24 FirmTofu wrote:
That being said, I am perfectly OK with being lynched. I just want town to promise that they will lynch you AND TG when I flip town.

If town agrees to that, I'll vote myself.


You cant vote for yourself

Oh wow, you're right...
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:30 GMT
#2258
Well, we got 30 minutes left. I'm gonna be around to answer questions. If you are unclear about ANYTHING, please ask.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:31 GMT
#2261
On July 28 2013 14:30 Onegu wrote:
Awesome my #1 scum choice gets to choose who is lynched.

Actually, if I can't vote for myself, you and kirby choose who is lynched. You guys have to pick the same person though.

That's kind of awkward.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:31 GMT
#2262
On July 28 2013 14:30 TanGeng wrote:
How sure are you of your read, Tofu? Tell everyone else to vote you then.

Who's getting desperate now?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:32 GMT
#2264
Guys, you really should vote before the last minute. We could mistakenly no lynch if you wait too long. Panic is not good for town.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:34 GMT
#2267
On July 28 2013 14:33 jrkirby wrote:
Onegu, I know you're town. I'll vote for whoever you do.

This is good. This way, Onegu picks the lynch and can be more confident in his choice considering he has you as a scum read.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:35 GMT
#2270
On July 28 2013 14:34 TanGeng wrote:
Look you have 3 votes on your candidate.

Corazon = 3
jrkirby = 2
Tofu = 2

I'll take the exchange though. If corazon flips town, you'll lead the lynch against yourself tomorrow? Just be sure to bring Vivax with you.

Well, I'll lead the lynch on Vivax if corazon flips town. I can promise that.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:36 GMT
#2273
He's not going to flip town, though. I'm pretty sure I'm a defective cop. I got a green read on TAA, who flipped scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 05:37 GMT
#2276
On July 28 2013 14:36 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:35 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 14:34 TanGeng wrote:
Look you have 3 votes on your candidate.

Corazon = 3
jrkirby = 2
Tofu = 2

I'll take the exchange though. If corazon flips town, you'll lead the lynch against yourself tomorrow? Just be sure to bring Vivax with you.

Well, I'll lead the lynch on Vivax if corazon flips town. I can promise that.

I expect I won't be around because you'll have shot me.

Cops only have bullets in real life. This is mafia, bro.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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