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Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:18 GMT
#799
Honestly, I don't get how anyone can defend either Super or Kirby as 'pro town' at this point. The way to win votes is 'sure they're both scummy, but my guy is a bit scummier'.

Once hz and chrom started pitching their guy as 'the other guy is just bad town' they sort of lost me.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:20 GMT
#803
On July 15 2013 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Then why is Chroma defending him so hard? He is even making up fucking reasons.

Show nested quote +
1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him
2) Xzav read him as scum
3) Xzav hasn't contributed
4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him
5) Gut read


I am laughing so hard when I read these reasons after reading the super log over and over.


Because he believes very strongly in his read. This is the towniest thing since Lord Patrick Townington went to townville. He doesn't have a self-preservation instinct because he's town, and not under suspicion. He can throw himself around with abandon like this because he has mental freedom scum does not possess.

Attacking Chrom will get you nowhere with me. Focus on the subjects.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:22 GMT
#805
On July 15 2013 07:19 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 06:47 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:56 hzflank wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
I'd be on board for a gotard hammer if someone can make a good case that mafia are on this wagon pushing for a mislynch.


You don't think that Mafia are on that wagon? From my position you are on the scummy wagon.

I am reading Gotard again. I did not think that the cases against him were strong, but on the other hand Gotard's filter after 24 hours was horrible. The problem that I have with reading his more recent posts is that I am struggling to separate an alignment read from a personality read. I think Gotard could very well be scum, but I still think that Super is more likely.

If you look at Chrom's defense of Super, almost every point was that it was bad play rather than scum play. When you make that many consecutive defenses and call them all bad play then alarm bells should be ringing.


Elaborate on this if you can, hz.


Gotard is scummy. Stim is still at least in the top 5 of my scum list. Nightcat is a lurker who just randomly added his vote. Chrom is neutral at best. At best that wagon has 2 scummy, 2 neutral and 2 townie players on it.

The other wagon has Umasi, who I think is townie. Xzavier who is neutral (too much lurking, his posts are not good enough to make up for that that much lurking) and Koshi. Some other people have been calling Koshi scum recently, but I have him as neutral.


Mmmmmmmmm nope. I like Chrom's answer better:

On July 15 2013 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
The three scummiest people in the game (Kirby, Koshi, Xzav) are on the Super wagon.

Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:24 GMT
#807
@ Umasi
@ Rainbows


We three control this lynch. I think everyone else is entrenched (via either conviction or inactivity). If you agree, we need to establish some things between the three of us.

First, do we all agree that both of the current wagons are acceptable lynch candidates?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:30 GMT
#813
On July 15 2013 07:26 Rainbows wrote:
Acceptable yes. Im really unsure of who to vote but super seems best imo.

Both might be town.


You mentioned that, and that's why this is sort of an unholy alliance. Even though the odds are staggeringly in your favor, I would actually be more inclined to believe they were both scum rather than both town. I feel like I have a decent eye for town-on-town crime, although to be fair, kirby and super haven't been sniping at each other NEARLY enough for my taste.

Regardless, this is good news. Now we just need Umasi to confirm he finds both players scummy, and we can decide this lynch.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:34 GMT
#818
@ Superfluous

Please post your reads in the event you are lynched today.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:40 GMT
#822
On July 15 2013 07:37 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 07:24 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@ Umasi
@ Rainbows


We three control this lynch. I think everyone else is entrenched (via either conviction or inactivity). If you agree, we need to establish some things between the three of us.

First, do we all agree that both of the current wagons are acceptable lynch candidates?


Not finished reading, want to reply before I forget
Yes, I accept that they are both absolutely acceptable lynch targets


Fantastic. I'm going to give Superfluous a bit more time to post his reads, and then the Tribunal Council To Ensure Daily Lynches can begin deliberations.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:42 GMT
#827
To the rest of y'all, is there anyone else that is okay with lynching either target tonight? I know you may lean one way or another, but to avoid mafia deadline shenanigans that may lead to a No Lynch (or mislynch) day, this would work better with one more person.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:45 GMT
#830
On July 15 2013 07:43 Chromatically wrote:
I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch.


Don't worry. You're the bandwagon leader. I don't need your mobility today. Keep on doing you, Chrom.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:46 GMT
#832
On July 15 2013 07:41 Superfluous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 06:53 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@Superfluous

Can you post a list of your Town and Scum reads like kirby did in case you die tonight?


Town: Chroma
Umasi
Hurricane (mostly because I really like this post) I did have that post calling you out earlier but you havent done anything similar since.
Stimaddict (bad play revealing role but w/e)
Jrkirby, though now I would lynch him to save myself seeing as its definitely coming to that.

Maf: Xzavier
Koshi
Insert Lurker here
Hzflank (weakest tho)

I'll point out again how hard koshi is going on me and in some ways trying to distract from jkirby/discredit chroma. If Either of them flip maf I'd be suspicious of the other, though the same could be said of me and chroma I suppose.


Neat! We have something to talk about. Why do you think hzflank is scum?

Why do you think Koshi is scum?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#834
On July 15 2013 07:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 07:43 Chromatically wrote:
I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch.

THIS IS BULLSHIT


TOWN WE ARE GOING TO GET SO MUCH INFO WHEN WE LYNCH


THERE ARE ONLY 3 FUCKING SCUMS. A MISSLYNCH IS NOT BAD.




ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME? WE ALL AGREED THAT LYNCHING WAS GOOD. AND NOW CHROM WANTS TO PROTECT SUPER SO MADLY THAT A NO LYNHC IS OK?



WE AGREE THAT THEY BOTH LOOK SCUM. FUCK THIS


Hahaha. Reading comprehension, kids! Learn to love it.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#837
Chromatically, don't bother responding to that. It's just clutter.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#848
TRIBUNAL COMMENCE:

I'm leaning Super right now. One tiebreaker is activity level. Kirby has 3 1/2 pages of content vs. Super's 1 1/2.

My reads also line up better with Kirby. Super has some of the easiest, surface-level scum reads in the history of mankind. Guy who poked him early (Xzavier), guy leading his wagon (hzflank), and Lurkers. Not like, actual lurkers, but literally the word 'lurkers'. Didn't even name actual lurkers that he's suspicious of.

The koshi scum read is odd, but I'm willing to chalk that up to a mafia protecting his mafiabro in the event he flips red. If Super were to flip green, this interpretation would be moot.

Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#861
On July 15 2013 07:56 Rainbows wrote:
Okay what the fuck is that vote nightcat


What umasi said. Looks like nightcat realized his vote was out-of-date. Didn't raise too many scumbells for me. I'd be more concerned that he's scum trying to get bus cred now that the Almighty Tribunal Of Awesome Lynch Assurance has formed.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#863
On July 15 2013 07:55 Chromatically wrote:
Wow, look at all the scum resistance to this Super lynch.


Is this a typo, Chrom? Did you mean 'Kirby' lynch? Because I think the Tribunal might establish that there may not be much resistance to lynching either side.

(Which gives credence to Rainbows town-town theory.)
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#871
That'd be really funny. Play with Style seems to be a common meme on TL Mafia. The only thing giving me pause is (META ALERT) Gotard proved in XLII that he's a low postcount Townie who is basically only useful as a pro-town sheep vote. This play is very similar, so arguing that this play is scummy is not a slam dunk for me yet.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:08 GMT
#877
TRIBUNAL ALERT:

Nightcat smells fishy. The early vote on kirby could have been a towncred vote to put distance between them. It's possible he came back and saw a close vote and can't risk being the vote that lynches his buddy now.

It seemed a bit too easy to get votes onto Super. Let's get them onto Kirby now, and continue deliberations.

##unvote
##vote: JrKirby
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:11 GMT
#881
ATTENTION THREAD:
The Tribunal has proven it means business. Chromatically, your claim that the votes moved around too easily on Superfluous has been rendered moot.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:13 GMT
#886
On July 15 2013 08:11 Chromatically wrote:
What?


You sarcastically mentioned that you thought the fact that the votes poured in on Super represented little mafia resistance to the lynch (thus indicating a mislynch).

We have proven by getting Kirby up on the block in the span of about 10 seconds that this is not valid reasoning.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:14 GMT
#890
Oh, right. Super still hasn't switched his vote.

Entertaining play.
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