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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#1438
On July 16 2013 10:54 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?


Sure they would. It's factional KP anyway. If they do not claim then the JK might think they are scum.

On the other hand, that's only if he was RB by town JK. If he was RB by a scum RBer then Chrom is town.


i fail to see the logic in the second half of that post
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:59 GMT
#1444
On July 16 2013 10:57 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:56 Xzavier wrote:
On July 16 2013 10:54 hzflank wrote:
On July 16 2013 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?


Sure they would. It's factional KP anyway. If they do not claim then the JK might think they are scum.

On the other hand, that's only if he was RB by town JK. If he was RB by a scum RBer then Chrom is town.


i fail to see the logic in the second half of that post


Why on earth would scum RB one of their team?


how in hell would we be able to differentiate who did the roleblocking?
and scum could fakeclaim getting RB'd

and wifom
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 02:33 GMT
#1460
On July 16 2013 11:32 Chromatically wrote:
Stim wasn't scummy looking, don't be silly.


stim never was never confirmed town either
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 02:34 GMT
#1464
On July 16 2013 11:33 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 11:32 Chromatically wrote:
Stim wasn't scummy looking, don't be silly.


stim never was never confirmed town either


but your right he didnt make a scum list in a LONG time
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 02:45 GMT
#1472
On July 16 2013 11:33 Chromatically wrote:
Xzavier, explain how your read on Rainbows changed from top 3 town to top 3 scum.



post-flip association.

i had a feeling after seeing the flip that one of the three was likely scum, or it was nightcat joining in. (or possibly even both, but less likely)

The fact that it was a town-flip and the apathy along with it on his end moved him from town-read to scum-read.

my orginal town-read on him was based on his activity day1 being beneficial to the town, after that shitstortm that was an hour before the lynch he just sheeped and contradicted himself. I know alot of what im saying was based off cases that other people wrote, but those cases actually convinced me to rethink my townread on him, and rethink it i did.

he just didnt "fit" into that tribunal the way the other two did.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 02:50 GMT
#1476
On July 16 2013 11:47 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 11:45 Xzavier wrote:
On July 16 2013 11:33 Chromatically wrote:
Xzavier, explain how your read on Rainbows changed from top 3 town to top 3 scum.



post-flip association.

i had a feeling after seeing the flip that one of the three was likely scum, or it was nightcat joining in. (or possibly even both, but less likely)

The fact that it was a town-flip and the apathy along with it on his end moved him from town-read to scum-read.

my orginal town-read on him was based on his activity day1 being beneficial to the town, after that shitstortm that was an hour before the lynch he just sheeped and contradicted himself. I know alot of what im saying was based off cases that other people wrote, but those cases actually convinced me to rethink my townread on him, and rethink it i did.

he just didnt "fit" into that tribunal the way the other two did.


You posted this about all three of them after the flip.
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 11:40 Xzavier wrote:
but they were all my top townreads, im interested in the people who joined in to sheep.



after reading the cases against him thats what changed it, i dont quite remember the order but thats how it went down.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 03:07 GMT
#1481
i was specifically looking at the people who were moving their votes around at the last minute. Those 4 people were Sponge, Umasi, Rainbows and Nightcat. i think Sponge and Umasi are town. Then began to suspect Rainbows might be scum but wanted to pressure nightcat during the nightphase.

being taht rainbow turned up dead i wanted to revert back to pressuring super because nightcat magically showed up to post and stopped lurking. My goal with that was to get the other to stop lurking and start helping. Nightcat is scummy, no shit i think that super is scummy considering i voted for him yesterday, and since all he did post-flip was hardcore lurk i chose to pressure him today.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 03:14 GMT
#1484
On July 16 2013 12:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 11:52 Nightcat99 wrote:
Well since i feel like i am on the chopping block i will do what i can.

First off all, stim's blow up can just be a big play since he was on the chopping block, even with his claim does make him a townie by any means.

cloud posted almost nothing , if cloud continuing playing i would have put him as a lurking scum because he posted no opinion of his own but he got replaced so..... Abra Kadabra, ALAKASLAYUM!!

i am still leaning that gotard is scum because of his snarky comment on every other post, it seem like he recheck his post and put those in in case there is future slip ups.

super can still be scum , nothing has change in the last 24 hour i dont know why a mislynch turn into a town - town read.

i was totally expecting either hurricane or umasi to die and didnt know see rainbow going, so even through i had strong feeling that these two were town, now i am not so sure, but if i have to pick it will be hurricane that is the scummier of the two, because hes the one that started the first day tribunal and that is a silly idea even to me. but i really have nothing .

P.S. i will keep reading and this game is hard i am getting a headache.




It's funny how I replaced a perfectly new and almost rational player with

B
A
T
S
H
I
T

Insane


like this day wasnt insane enough
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 03:26 GMT
#1488
i need to go soon but i can answer any questions people have now.

i think iv already said that most of my tomorrow is stupidly busy, my wednesday is totally free though after class (in the morning, so it will be the same time people usually wake up (around noon)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 03:33 GMT
#1492
oh ty!
its in there now. totally forgot about that
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#1493
On July 16 2013 12:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 12:26 Xzavier wrote:
i need to go soon but i can answer any questions people have now.

i think iv already said that most of my tomorrow is stupidly busy, my wednesday is totally free though after class (in the morning, so it will be the same time people usually wake up (around noon)

Ok what time zone u in


EST (its 11:34 at the time of this post)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 17:17 GMT
#1513
nightcat we need to lynch, if we dont it will put us in an event worse spot. and even though we risk a higher chance of mislynchign blue we get a higher chance of hitting scum as well.

but you still have to try.

anyway im off to work for 8 hours, use the good old @Xzavier to ask me something short and sweet and ill try to respond during lunch.breaks.

when i get home im going to contemplate dropping calc or running away from home, so i might check in here
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 21:58 GMT
#1640
Super still hasnt done anything to convince me he is town. nightcat is trying but not bringing up anything tangible against anybody, but hes looking more noob town to me, as not understanding the rules.

That said it worries me because it could be easy to be oblivioys and make yourself seem worse than you are the moment simebody brings it up. i dont want to clear hin just on that.

Super is acting like a deer in headlights, which is annoying.

Im not seeing enough scumhunting out of either of them.

Gotard doesnt look good right now. considering how hard it is to get reads out him.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#1652
Super is still lurking.

I have absolutely zero free time today and am finding time to post. This is really bugging me. expecially if he gets super active before the lynch.

i see his plan as letting other cases build while he isnt around..

That i find frustrating cause he hasnt proved me wrong yet
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 18:38 GMT
#1786
im taking a quick shower than posting, but first i want to say this" Lurkers gonna lurk"

super is still lurking hardcore, and has no reason not to considering nobody is voting for him or continueing to pressure him.
i feel strange that he would be content to just sit and let the lynch happen without weighing in on it.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 18:39 GMT
#1787
On July 18 2013 03:38 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words I must try. I will get a few, but try makin a case from your phone sometime, multiple quotes phone posting is an art.


i still have y et to learn how to copy+paste on my phone so yeah. xD
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 19:18 GMT
#1804
On July 18 2013 04:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Right now, I'm hoping Super is just Real-Life inactive and not intentionally lurking. We could use a counter-triple-kill (lynch scum, modkill scum, SK shoots scum). A boy can dream...


its like he just did his job of getting suspicion off him and removing himself from the lynch candidates then goes inactive, like it doesn't matter who gets lynched as long as it isnt him. Thats pretty scummy,

suppose he pops in the last few hours, which honestly to me is at any point between now and the lynch, the closer to the lynch the worse.

IMO this looks like a good way to wait until a bandwagon has formed on not him, then show up when its too late to form another candidate. and thats scummy as hell to me. and as far from pro-town you can get short of posting 100% spam.

hes already posted so all he has to do is throw a last minute vote on the bandwagon, and then he is magically forgotten about again.

and watch, now that he is being talked about he is in a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" because hes lurked for too long, and so he would appear once hes starting to be talked about again/deadline. Whatever he does at this point looks scummy, which is frustrating because unless he gets a rock solid case on somebody he is my top scumread.

He is my lynch candidate.

However gotard does look scummy, i see him as a serious lynch candidate, but who the fuck is running against him to die? Nobody? isnt that strange in and of itself. When there are mutliple scummy people in the game and only one of them is getting votes? shouldnt scum buddies be atleast SEMI-attempting to defend him? It seems to me like scum are okay with this lynch, and that is worrysome. there was no resistance to his case (basically) and i cant imagine people full-bussing when all they would have to do is ask/answer harmless questions and make pro-town moves to do it.


i think lynching super helps us more, do you want super at LYLO? atleast gotard you can get reads off of because he posts. Having a hardcore lurker at LYLO is a horrible nightmare.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 19:24 GMT
#1807
On July 18 2013 04:21 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:18 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Right now, I'm hoping Super is just Real-Life inactive and not intentionally lurking. We could use a counter-triple-kill (lynch scum, modkill scum, SK shoots scum). A boy can dream...


its like he just did his job of getting suspicion off him and removing himself from the lynch candidates then goes inactive, like it doesn't matter who gets lynched as long as it isnt him. Thats pretty scummy,

suppose he pops in the last few hours, which honestly to me is at any point between now and the lynch, the closer to the lynch the worse.

IMO this looks like a good way to wait until a bandwagon has formed on not him, then show up when its too late to form another candidate. and thats scummy as hell to me. and as far from pro-town you can get short of posting 100% spam.

hes already posted so all he has to do is throw a last minute vote on the bandwagon, and then he is magically forgotten about again.

and watch, now that he is being talked about he is in a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" because hes lurked for too long, and so he would appear once hes starting to be talked about again/deadline. Whatever he does at this point looks scummy, which is frustrating because unless he gets a rock solid case on somebody he is my top scumread.

He is my lynch candidate.

However gotard does look scummy, i see him as a serious lynch candidate, but who the fuck is running against him to die? Nobody? isnt that strange in and of itself. When there are mutliple scummy people in the game and only one of them is getting votes? shouldnt scum buddies be atleast SEMI-attempting to defend him? It seems to me like scum are okay with this lynch, and that is worrysome. there was no resistance to his case (basically) and i cant imagine people full-bussing when all they would have to do is ask/answer harmless questions and make pro-town moves to do it.


i think lynching super helps us more, do you want super at LYLO? atleast gotard you can get reads off of because he posts. Having a hardcore lurker at LYLO is a horrible nightmare.


The bolded is exactly what I thought at one point. But there is an explanation: What if his scumbuddies are lurking. If Super is scum and legit afk, he obviously won't defend Gotard. Then it just takes one independently-acting scummer to see the writing on the wall and Bus gotard, or otherwise just blend in.

I love a Super lynch tonight if he posts or votes, but I don't like a Super lynch if he's going to get /replaced (kicked for inactivity).


hes already posted, and he can wait to vote until he deems it too late to be lynched tonight yet not too late to instantly get lynched the next day, queue the damned if you do damned if you dont.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 19:27 GMT
#1811
On July 18 2013 04:21 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:18 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Right now, I'm hoping Super is just Real-Life inactive and not intentionally lurking. We could use a counter-triple-kill (lynch scum, modkill scum, SK shoots scum). A boy can dream...


its like he just did his job of getting suspicion off him and removing himself from the lynch candidates then goes inactive, like it doesn't matter who gets lynched as long as it isnt him. Thats pretty scummy,

suppose he pops in the last few hours, which honestly to me is at any point between now and the lynch, the closer to the lynch the worse.

IMO this looks like a good way to wait until a bandwagon has formed on not him, then show up when its too late to form another candidate. and thats scummy as hell to me. and as far from pro-town you can get short of posting 100% spam.

hes already posted so all he has to do is throw a last minute vote on the bandwagon, and then he is magically forgotten about again.

and watch, now that he is being talked about he is in a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" because hes lurked for too long, and so he would appear once hes starting to be talked about again/deadline. Whatever he does at this point looks scummy, which is frustrating because unless he gets a rock solid case on somebody he is my top scumread.

He is my lynch candidate.

However gotard does look scummy, i see him as a serious lynch candidate, but who the fuck is running against him to die? Nobody? isnt that strange in and of itself. When there are mutliple scummy people in the game and only one of them is getting votes? shouldnt scum buddies be atleast SEMI-attempting to defend him? It seems to me like scum are okay with this lynch, and that is worrysome. there was no resistance to his case (basically) and i cant imagine people full-bussing when all they would have to do is ask/answer harmless questions and make pro-town moves to do it.


i think lynching super helps us more, do you want super at LYLO? atleast gotard you can get reads off of because he posts. Having a hardcore lurker at LYLO is a horrible nightmare.


The bolded is exactly what I thought at one point. But there is an explanation: What if his scumbuddies are lurking. If Super is scum and legit afk, he obviously won't defend Gotard. Then it just takes one independently-acting scummer to see the writing on the wall and Bus gotard, or otherwise just blend in.

I love a Super lynch tonight if he posts or votes, but I don't like a Super lynch if he's going to get /replaced (kicked for inactivity).


i dislike gambling on a modkill to kill my scummiest read. I dislike that alot. Your basically saying "IF YOUR SCUM DONT VOTE AND GET MODKILLED, THIS WAY WE START FRESH WITH YOU"

On July 18 2013 04:26 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:24 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:21 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:18 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Right now, I'm hoping Super is just Real-Life inactive and not intentionally lurking. We could use a counter-triple-kill (lynch scum, modkill scum, SK shoots scum). A boy can dream...


its like he just did his job of getting suspicion off him and removing himself from the lynch candidates then goes inactive, like it doesn't matter who gets lynched as long as it isnt him. Thats pretty scummy,

suppose he pops in the last few hours, which honestly to me is at any point between now and the lynch, the closer to the lynch the worse.

IMO this looks like a good way to wait until a bandwagon has formed on not him, then show up when its too late to form another candidate. and thats scummy as hell to me. and as far from pro-town you can get short of posting 100% spam.

hes already posted so all he has to do is throw a last minute vote on the bandwagon, and then he is magically forgotten about again.

and watch, now that he is being talked about he is in a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" because hes lurked for too long, and so he would appear once hes starting to be talked about again/deadline. Whatever he does at this point looks scummy, which is frustrating because unless he gets a rock solid case on somebody he is my top scumread.

He is my lynch candidate.

However gotard does look scummy, i see him as a serious lynch candidate, but who the fuck is running against him to die? Nobody? isnt that strange in and of itself. When there are mutliple scummy people in the game and only one of them is getting votes? shouldnt scum buddies be atleast SEMI-attempting to defend him? It seems to me like scum are okay with this lynch, and that is worrysome. there was no resistance to his case (basically) and i cant imagine people full-bussing when all they would have to do is ask/answer harmless questions and make pro-town moves to do it.


i think lynching super helps us more, do you want super at LYLO? atleast gotard you can get reads off of because he posts. Having a hardcore lurker at LYLO is a horrible nightmare.


The bolded is exactly what I thought at one point. But there is an explanation: What if his scumbuddies are lurking. If Super is scum and legit afk, he obviously won't defend Gotard. Then it just takes one independently-acting scummer to see the writing on the wall and Bus gotard, or otherwise just blend in.

I love a Super lynch tonight if he posts or votes, but I don't like a Super lynch if he's going to get /replaced (kicked for inactivity).


hes already posted, and he can wait to vote until he deems it too late to be lynched tonight yet not too late to instantly get lynched the next day, queue the damned if you do damned if you dont.


This is messed up. If he's following his wincon to the max, his only play now is to get himself /replaced. That is some seriously screwed up shit.


exactly
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 19:28 GMT
#1812
and its not even a modkill, he gets replaced, which would be more difficult for town and more beneficial for scum...
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