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Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 16 2013 23:00 GMT
#1648
"Why is Onegu a top town read?"

Really liked how he pressured Hurricane Sponge. My favorite:
On July 16 2013 20:02 Onegu wrote:
Ok this is a long one and hurricane makes a few incorrect leaps in logic.

First in NMM XLII yes stim self voted, but day 3 under zero pressure. He was under alot of pressure here when he self voted.
Even when I'm sure that Sponge isn't mafia (90%),

"Why did you make a case on Koshi if you thought he was bad town?"

I promised that I will comment on him before looking closely.

"Why did you write this if Super hasn't done anything pro-town?"

It was a long time ago when I wrote that and He didn't do much more since then. "share his strong reads" - he was pointing his finger but he didn't say why. And he had still had a lot of time 'till end of the day. He shaded his reads but there was no good reasoning behind them and I gave him some time.

I go to sleep if you want me to answer sth I will do that after waking up.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 11:11 GMT
#1717
On July 17 2013 08:08 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?

So why did you write this if you thought that he was bad town?

Have you seen Koshi's answer? It was obvious that it was a joke. Do you expect me to write what he need to do to be considered good town? In this game you can call someone town after that person is DEAD. When I call someone 'bad town' I assume we can lynch him if we don't have any better reads because he isn't that much useful and killing him gives information. Problem is that day 1 we traded potential information for secured lynch.

On July 17 2013 08:22 Nightcat99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


Dont know why you say that every one assume town town lynch day one and then you put him back on scum list , and i dont think every one thinks its town- town because if so then why is there vote on him now.

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 05:29 jrkirby wrote:
I think that you're right about gotard. He seems a lot like jarjardrinks in the first game I played. But no one is really taking a second look at him. In about 10 minutes I'm going to switch my vote from gotard to superflous, as he seems a bit scummy and I'd rather lynch him than no one.

But I would much prefer it if the case on gotard were reviewed by everyone. When I called him out on his sheep vote, instead of giving good reasons for his vote, he just said,oh, other people are doing the same thing. That's not an excuse.

And besides, gotard: Other people ARE posting why they are on the bandwagon their on. Sure, some people haven't voted yet, but most people who have voted have at least a bit of reasonig behind it, rather than just "I find you scummy."


this is the kriby's case on you , why does this make him a better second day lynch. His case against you were basically he called you a sheep and you didnt respond, thats not a reason to make him a second day lynch.

And the part about me, i dont even feel like thats a scum accusation and you obviously just jump through my filter and didnt read, why i asked the question. so i wont bother answering that.


Maybe I should say majority not everyone.

If you look at jrkirby's reads on me they were way better than what Superfluous did at this point in time and it was more than "calling me sheep". Seems like jrkirby couldn't get out of lynch without anyone's help.

On July 17 2013 09:27 Nightcat99 wrote:
I have been reading the filters again for gotard and super and here is what i think.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote:
Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts:


On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 19:57 Chromatically wrote:
Gotard, who do you want to lynch?

Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk)


On July 14 2013 05:32 Gotard wrote:

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


On July 16 2013 02:44 Gotard wrote:

Getting mad after misreading. Emotional plays like that indicates bad town to me. Unless he wants to fake being mad after I defended Stim.

And the most important note : he can't spell my name.


On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?


On July 17 2013 07:33 Gotard wrote:
Wanted to check stuff before going to sleep.
(offtopic I might add you on osu! later if I will remember)[



He has been adding in j/k and other things in his post to make his posting seem much more relax then it is and thats a very scummy read to me. Plus it can be a precaution for future slip ups. Also he most recent post after long hour of lurking didnt help the situation but seems to make things worst

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


i mean his top 2 town read were umasi, who no one has accused and onegu, who replaced stim, who gave alot of tells, athough nothing is for sure, no one is accusing onegu mainly because os stims blowup.

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person , and me which isnt even an accusation.

I would vote gotard at a heart beat atm, but i am still hoping super would come back and post somethings before i put my vote in, beside there is plenty of time left.




Doesn't matter if I'm scum or not I play for fun and I don't see any reasons for jokes being scummy unless they are forced in some way which isn't the case.

I think it's obvious that my top town reads are people commonly considered as town and I don't think that no one accused Umasi in this game (I'm too lazy to find quotes).

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person

I can say the same think about you now. I don't see him pro town in any way. Don't force me to change my mind only because it's too easy to call him scum.
and me which isnt even an accusation

Yes, you did a lot of pro town content.
On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

If you don't think it's an accusation you need to stop using ctrl+f when looking for accusations.

"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 16:12 GMT
#1731
Hurricane Sponge you want my top town reads to be scummy?
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#1741
On July 18 2013 01:40 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 01:12 Gotard wrote:
Hurricane Sponge you want my top town reads to be scummy?


The logic for your town reads should be 'he said this _____ which I think is pro town' or 'he has been scumhunting effectively all game'. It should not be 'everyone else thinks he's town so I guess I do too'. That kind of groupthink is incredibly dangerous to yourself and the town.

And this is my logic. But Nightcat attacked me that my town reads are generally considered as town and suddenly they can't be counted because it's to safe too put them into my top town list.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 17:05 GMT
#1746
On July 18 2013 02:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
You're basically sheeping your town reads.

I don't understand what do you mean.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#1821
Lynching lurker won't give us much info.
##vote Nightcat99
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 19:55 GMT
#1826
What's the point of lynching Superfluous right now? Since he's gone there's no discussion around him. his case was closed after first day. He can only hope that people will think that day one was town-town lynch which is the case.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
July 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#1829
People are afraid. They didn't see mafia defending their mate. They are scared or killing their buddy again.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
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