Veteran can survive one KP. Survivor wins with any faction as long as they are alive. Jailkeeper both roleblocks and protects his target. Parity Cop checks someone N1, and then returns "Same" or "Not Same" on later nights. Roleblocker roleblocks his target. Vengeful Townie gains a One-Shot Vigi ability upon death. Millers return German to Cop Checks. Scum KP is factional. #/2 rounded up.
My name is Lt. Aldo Raine and I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eight soldiers. Eight Jewish-American soldiers. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the armada happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into France, dressed as civilians. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Nazis. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn Smoky Mountains, cross five thousand miles of water, fight my way through half of Sicily and jump out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach the Nazis lessons in humanity. Nazi ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a Jew-hatin', mass murderin' maniac and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every every son of a bitch we find wearin' a Nazi uniform, they're gonna die. Now, I'm the direct descendant of the mountain man Jim Bridger. That means I got a little Injun in me. And our battle plan will be that of an Apache resistance. We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty they will know who we are. And they will find the evidence of our cruelty in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us. And the German won't not be able to help themselves but to imagine the cruelty their brothers endured at our hands, and our boot heels, and the edge of our knives. And the German will be sickened by us, and the German will talk about us, and the German will fear us. And when the German closes their eyes at night and they're tortured by their subconscious for the evil they have done, it will be with thoughts of us they are tortured with. Sound good?
YES, SIR!
That's what I like to hear. But I got a word of warning for all you would-be warriors. When you join my command, you take on debit. A debit you owe me personally. Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y'all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis. Or you will die tryin'.
For those of you that want to have some fun:
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On June 30 2013 07:38 Vivax wrote: Addendum to the stutters thing: Looks like a loaded question scum likes to ask earlygame. I don't really see how one would suspect Rayn to be scum for having "extra info" about miller when scum doesn't get any extra info in that regard either. Doesn't seem like the approach a townie would take in that case even if he genuinely believed that.
Ecco un voto per esprimere la mia discordanza e il mio sospetto
My cohost, Dandel Ion, was instructed to send out role pms by copying the character's IMDB biography. Instead, I've found out that some were written in German, some were written as jokes, and other such things. As a result, some people still don't have a proper role pm, there was confusion about roles, and I am very, very pissed off.
After consulting with some other hosts, the consensus is to simply restart the game with random roles. But I know you guys have already invested some time into this game, so I am hesitant to do that. Therefore, I'm putting it up to a vote. You may vote either here or via PM to me, with either "##Restart" or "##Continue". As soon as I have a majority opinion either way, we will proceed.
I'm very sorry to all of you guys. If there is anyone who still is confused about their role, I've updated the OP with a spoiler that explains each role. If you are unsure as to who you are, PM me with that also.
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.
To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.
I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP: It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
On July 02 2013 22:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: He unvoted
So he did, I was going by iGrok's final votecount.
Yo hosts, what are you doing about the dude who didn't place a vote?
Answering this and a couple other questions.
I missed the ##unvote, gumshoe recieves this game's first and final warning. VOTE OR DIE BITCHES!
I do not, nor have I ever (to my knowledge) alerted players if they are roleblocked.
YOU MAY NOT POST ROLE PMs, ONLY ROLE NAMES. If you would like to know more about your character you may check IMDB or wikipedia
The setup is semi-open. What this means is that I have explained most of the setup, but not all. There are no lies in the OP (other than the starting date hehehe) + Show Spoiler +
The six setup types are: Smalltown - All setup info is known, including who is what. Open - All setup info other than who is what is known Semi-Open - Most setup info is known. Semi-Closed - Most setup info is not known. Closed - No roles or mechanics. Bastard - I'm lying to you.
If you have any other questions, PM me. On my phone but i'll try to respond before the deadline.
Pfc. Smithson Utivich, a Basterd nicknamed "The Little Man" even though he wasn't even aware of his nickname. He is a bit of a wise-ass and will follow anything Lt. Aldo Raine asks him to do.
Day ends in 47 hours (Countdown 18:00 EDT July 4). Vote or Die!
A final reminder: You may only post your role name, not role PM!
On July 07 2013 02:49 gumshoe wrote: Sorry if this off topic, I wont derail the thread past this, but whats the best scum move/game on tl? Im talking something like actually only firing one shot so that vivax can claim vet good XD
Answering a q: Mafia wins when they equal # of town. Survivors are not town. Therefore, should a 2-2-1 split happen and a vengeful townie was not shot (if one exists), the game will be over, scum victory.
If there is any concievable way that a faction can win, I will not end the game because it is still "winnable".
As a not-so-subtle reminder, you may not discuss mod pms. I did send a pm to each town player asking for a vote on concession, and copied it to each other player. Town has voted to continue.
I attempted to force a game which would result in a 3P that would claim without town being able to kill him. This game heavily revolved around setup analysis, and heavily discouraged town-initiated mass claims.
1) Number of roles: There were precisely enough town roles for 3P and scum to have 1 fakeclaim each. 3P was also given a scum fakeclaim in the case that he wanted to claim scum (to alert scum that he was 3P). 3P knew precisely which power roles were in the game, as he was given Vigi and Hitler claims. Scum did not know which power roles were in the game. They we given one "free" miller claim because it was a Parity cop, so D1 miller claim wouldn't hurt the cop, the rest were all VT claims.
2) Weak Blues Lets be real clear here. Your parity cop claimed Day 2. Your Vengeful claimed. These are powerful roles which were made weak by claiming. Claim cop? Get shot. Claim Vengeful? You're a VT. Veteran was in there to change the D2 Lynch from LyLo to MyLo.
3) 3P Jailkeeper This let the 3P decide which type of game he wanted to play. Did he want to lean scum or town? Short game or Long game? By choosing not to use his power, WoS played for a shorter game.
4) Amazing Scum play/Veteran Meta In the end, nobody, even in the Obs thread, knew who the scumteam was. I believe that this is a result of two things. First, scum played exceptionally well, especially for a bunch of first timers! People are going to give all the praise to Stutters, but take a look back. Fuba got caught early, but made the 3P known and distracted town for the rest of the day - imagine how different LyLo is with an unknown 3P. s0lstice got caught, but managed to deflect the lynch and simultaneously shut down any movement on stutters. Honestly, s0l is my scum MVP - it is incredibly difficult to draw fire from someone else while not getting lynched yourself. And stutters just played a straight up good game. No one, even in obs, guessed stutters until he voted on vivax.
At the same time, this town fell victim to the "Veteran Meta", which plagues TL. There was no way that one of the older guys wasn't scum. But thats an issue for a whole other thing.
5) Massclaim First, lets look at my hosting meta. I almost always provide fake claims. I punish people who try to break my setups. There is usually some sort of hidden information. So, meta wise, its a bad idea to massclaim in my games.
Setup wise: Every blue role becomes exponentially worse by claiming early. There are 2 non-town RBs potentially in the game. Cop and vigi claims get RB/Shot. Vet/Vengeful get not shot or RB+Shot. Whose idea was it to massclaim? And why didn't you analyze the setup and figure out, hey, this is actually a bad idea? I'm the setup analysis host - if you play my game, look at the setup and think about how it can play out before you do anything else.
6) How Town Wins on Day IV Be there at the friggin Daypost.
Method #1: s0lstice claims scum. 3 townies insta vote him. stutters is forced to vote s0l also. s0l dies, its now 3-1-1 -> 2-1-1 LyLo.
Method #2: Oats had the right idea. Claim scum, say that another townie is your scumbuddy. They now know that you are town and are making a gambit, and will should support you. Its now reverse LyLo, with either WoS or the 3rd townie holding the hammer. You have a 66% chance if you shoot before s0l claims, or a 100% chance if you aim at s0l post claim (though a more difficult case). But, once s0l flips, you have two confirmed townies going into 3-1-1, so at least 1 confirmed townie going into 2-1-1, making things a bit easier.
On the whole, I think it was an ok game. Town just got outplayed hard.
You are getting no apology. You would have if you hadn't sent me a 4 (or 5?) paragraph egotistical pile of crap and demanded that I post it.
My priority is the game and the players, not my cohost's feelings.
Before you turn this thread into a drama shitshow, please send Foolishness your side of the story. I've already done so. An outside perspective is the best way to settle this without creating a bunch of drama for TL Mafia.
On July 09 2013 09:58 iGrok wrote: Also stutters, what the fuck on that s0lstice vote man. balls of titanium. Vivax votes, s0l dies right there.
Just saw this. I had no choice really. If I'm not there in a situation where the timing of the votes are everything I might as well claim scum. My vote was entirely irrelevant because regardless of if I'm not voting/voting s0l if Vivax votes before WoS s0l is dead. Yes there is that slight window where vivax could vote after WoS but before I get my vote in but I was pretty confident I could convince gumshoe to lynch oats off of that line of reasoning based on him leaving me out of all of his scum team speculation I felt he had a pretty strong town read on me. I tried to be conservative with any game winning plays because I felt pretty confident in us winning a straight up game as well.
This is circular logic. If Vivax hasn't voted yet, then you don't need to vote because a townie is also not there at deadline. Still, it worked. GJ
On July 10 2013 05:36 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to make it clear that my abilities to carry out a fake conversation with myself are far superior than those of Dandel.
On July 09 2013 09:58 iGrok wrote: Also stutters, what the fuck on that s0lstice vote man. balls of titanium. Vivax votes, s0l dies right there.
Just saw this. I had no choice really. If I'm not there in a situation where the timing of the votes are everything I might as well claim scum. My vote was entirely irrelevant because regardless of if I'm not voting/voting s0l if Vivax votes before WoS s0l is dead. Yes there is that slight window where vivax could vote after WoS but before I get my vote in but I was pretty confident I could convince gumshoe to lynch oats off of that line of reasoning based on him leaving me out of all of his scum team speculation I felt he had a pretty strong town read on me. I tried to be conservative with any game winning plays because I felt pretty confident in us winning a straight up game as well.
This is circular logic. If Vivax hasn't voted yet, then you don't need to vote because a townie is also not there at deadline. Still, it worked. GJ
I disagree because Vivax is confirmed town by s0l calling for WoS to vote him. If s0l dies Vivax is confirmed town and it's a case of Vivax being Vivax. Given the general amount of setup speculation/planning I do I have no reason at all to justify not being there to vote when the game is on the line when anyone who has played multiple games with me and was involved would probably realize that as soon as I read your clarification I would realize that it wasn't actually game until we quickvoted with WoS.
Maybe I'm over thinking it lol
Oh yeah, good point that vivax was the confirmed haha.
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