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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#1408
On July 03 2013 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think fuba is more likely scum than survivor.
Marv thoughts?



Maybe, but WoS is more likely scum than even that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 13:59 GMT
#1411
On July 03 2013 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok both Vivax and Marv wanna lynch WoS for what reasons exactly? Forgive me for not reading the thread, but all the reasons are obfuscated by the claim shit which isnt even alignment indicative and is just speculation.


I laid it out in one big post, it's in my filter.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418641&currentpage=68#1349
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:01 GMT
#1415
.......
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:03 GMT
#1419
On July 03 2013 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
if hes scum, what shot?


it's a fucking theoretical scenario, good god.

If we work under the assumption he's town, then we also have to work under the assumption that he took a super-terrible shot.

How is this complicated Oats?????
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:06 GMT
#1424
On July 03 2013 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know marv, you couldve included the word 'claim' in there.

Also, why as scum would he fakeclaim such a terrible shot?


why does it even matter? you understand perfectly well what i was saying, you're just being ridiculous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:07 GMT
#1427
On July 03 2013 23:05 Vivax wrote:
Apologies Oats, but I'm just too sure about this stuff to accept resistance.
Nice pointing it out.

Marv can only claim that WoS had real intention to shoot marv if he thinks WoS is town.
He says WoS bad = WoS scum.

He doesn't argue from a point of view where he assumes the shot is fake.
Why would scum WoS claim that he shot marv in the first place? Marv has to explain that first of all.


Only once you've explained what I keep pointing out to you.

Except you can't, because it would involve me being a completely retarded scumplayer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:08 GMT
#1428
WoS could 'get away' with a shot on me because rayn (#1 townie) was pushing the idea in the thread.

Validated by the fact rayn got shot and flipped town in fact.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:09 GMT
#1431
On July 03 2013 23:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know marv, you couldve included the word 'claim' in there.

Also, why as scum would he fakeclaim such a terrible shot?


why does it even matter? you understand perfectly well what i was saying, you're just being ridiculous.

no, the sentence is explaining why WoS is scum and apparently you switched perspective between points.

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
WoS is scum because he passively encouraged rayn in his dumb crusade, he repeatedly flung shit at me without explaining it, and then he took a totally unexplainable shot at me last night when I don't think he's anywhere near that terrible. It's very simple.

WoS is scum because
A.
B.
C. TERRIBLE SHOT.(scum dont have other guns dude, all vig shots are fake)

Would you have included the word claimed on hindsight?


no because it's fucking obvious already.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:09 GMT
#1433
On July 03 2013 23:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 23:05 Vivax wrote:
Apologies Oats, but I'm just too sure about this stuff to accept resistance.
Nice pointing it out.

Marv can only claim that WoS had real intention to shoot marv if he thinks WoS is town.
He says WoS bad = WoS scum.

He doesn't argue from a point of view where he assumes the shot is fake.
Why would scum WoS claim that he shot marv in the first place? Marv has to explain that first of all.


Only once you've explained what I keep pointing out to you.

Except you can't, because it would involve me being a completely retarded scumplayer.


You don't want to explain why your scumread is scum?
Do you need incentives from me to push your scumread?


I misread what you wrote and answered above.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:09 GMT
#1434
On July 03 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
are you deliberately avoiding using the word claimed?


WHY DOES IT MATTER. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:11 GMT
#1437
only if you read it like a total idiot who doesn't understand what it's saying even though it's 100% obvious

i can't legislate for rank stupidity
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:14 GMT
#1439
On July 03 2013 23:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
only if you read it like a total idiot who doesn't understand what it's saying even though it's 100% obvious

i can't legislate for rank stupidity

Thats why I said it was a scumslip?
Because you know WoS's claim is true.

So anyway, is WoS good at scum Marv? Important question.


It's not a scumslip because it's SO UNBELIEVABLY OBVIOUS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. Use your brain, PLEASE GOD PLEASE.

WoS played a good scumgame in Les Mis, that doesn't mean he won't make a mistake (e.g. rayn pushing Hapa in Catch 22). It's infinitely less likely a town-WoS would try to shoot me than a scum-WoS would pretend to shoot me flying on rayn's coat-tails.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:17 GMT
#1441
why are you asking me a question you can work out/verify yourself?

do your own work.

Oats, is the sky blue today?
Are there cars in the car park?
Is your name Oatsmaster?
Would you count these grains of rice for me please?
Are there mafia in this game?
Do the tides come in an out, could you check for me please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:20 GMT
#1444
I'll answer you when you get back to me on basic application of logic, Vivax.

Still waiting for an answer on that, posted it like 7 times.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:23 GMT
#1446
On July 03 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
There is no logic in arguing that a miller claim is too risky for you to do it.
That is my answer.


There's a tonne of logic. Go look at the numbers or work them out for yourself, then go figure out how there is almost zero upside and a massive downside.

Just do the maths. Toddle off now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:24 GMT
#1449
I like to punish you though bbygrl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:25 GMT
#1450
It could well be MYLO though;

assuming there is survivor we started 8-3-1

lynch + NK = now 6-3-1

lynch town = 5-3-1

two NKs = 3-3-1 game over
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#1452
....no, that's a very silly idea.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:33 GMT
#1457
On July 03 2013 23:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
i thought common practice was to nolynch on mylo?

Wanna talk about fuba?
Show nested quote +
Sorry for getting back so late, but it looks like a lot of you figured out my role already. I'm Hans Landa - German Survivor Jailkeeper. No jail last night, since it really didn't look like I was going to be NK'd, and after that shitstorm with marv/rayn/lazer/etc there were likely better vigi shots. If WoS is telling the truth, then it looks like scum has a roleblocker and saw him as possibly blue. If he's lying, then... he's scum.

To make up for the Vayne lynch a bit (that came way too close for me :S), I'll offer that I, at least, didn't get a fake claim. It feels like if scum had been given fake claims, then I would have gotten one, since this setup makes massclaims really likely, and it feels like it's gonna be really hard to walk that line between town and scum.

In your esteemed opinion bbygrl, is this genuine?


Only at 3-1 really. Anything else is debatable at best. Say we no-lynch and they kill maybe gumshoe and Jarjar. Where are we except 2 townies down?

Second paragraph there sounds pretty plausible. Although I'm not sure how much it's necessarily true that if scum got fakeclaims then survivor would get one too. Survivor not being inherently anti-town and all that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 14:34 GMT
#1458
On July 03 2013 23:33 Vivax wrote:
Just sheep me man.
I'm right, trust me.


Done the maths and logic on that miller stuff yet Vivax?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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