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On July 05 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote: None of you thinking that WoS is scum is differentiating his play from a survivor play. Explain this. I think my reasoning is very good.
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On July 05 2013 02:50 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 02:48 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 02:22 s0Lstice wrote: For someone who is supposedly fighting against the righteous indignation of being CC'd to avoid a lynch, Fuba is being quiet.
I'm one to talk I know...but it makes me feel better about my choice. But look at what WoS is posting. Just defending his own play and why we should lynch fuba no comments on anything else in case he dies. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all. He is doing that because today is about the two of them, and them only. He is not commenting on anything else because he is an outed survivor, and needs to strike a balance between the two teams in the game. Doing nothing for either is balance. There is no problem there as I see it. I agree, I probably would have done the same. But it isn't indicative of him being the actual survivor. If fuba is scum he has so much to fight for because the game becomes much much easier if he is lynch after WoS.
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Actually, the more I think of it, the more I have a hard time understanding how anyone could belive this claim of WoS. Anyone on this fuba-wagon better explain themselves right now. Oats, it doesn't cut it at all to say that the play isn't alignment indicative if you don't show where my arguments fail.
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On July 05 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Lazer, your reasoning is that WoS is scum because no survivor would claim Vigi? No survivor in this setup would ever claim vigi THAT GOT ROLEBLOCKED when his ambition was TO AVOID SCUM KNOWING WHO TEH SURVIVOR IS. How can you not see this? He is so fucking obviously lying. And why would he lie here? it doesn't make any goddamn sense...
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On July 05 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Like, if you think I should have just claimed survivor in the first place instead of bothering with vig, I already explained that, read my filter. Ah, well I guess I missread a bit. So you are saying that you claimed vigi because you wanted to put fuba in a position where he was forced to claim miller, is that right?
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On July 05 2013 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Like, if you think I should have just claimed survivor in the first place instead of bothering with vig, I already explained that, read my filter. Ah, well I guess I missread a bit. So you are saying that you claimed vigi because you wanted to put fuba in a position where he was forced to claim miller, is that right? Well I assumed that's what he was given, but his claim blindsided me completely. I can't belive once in a million years that this is true. No way in hell did you just not think of the possibilty of him fake-claiming survivor. Like, the only thing you have to do is survive. Yet you are on the verge of failing that because you didn't think insanely simple stuff liek this through.
If this is true and you indeed are the survivor, you still deserve to get lynched. You are basically playing against your win con by doing shit like this...
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On July 05 2013 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 03:00 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Lazer, your reasoning is that WoS is scum because no survivor would claim Vigi? No survivor in this setup would ever claim vigi THAT GOT ROLEBLOCKED when his ambition was TO AVOID SCUM KNOWING WHO TEH SURVIVOR IS. How can you not see this? He is so fucking obviously lying. And why would he lie here? it doesn't make any goddamn sense... It makes perfect sense. I had to claim something to appease town. I claimed roleblocked vigi so scum might think I was roleblocked by a survivor who wasn't me. It was a long shot but I had to take it. Hence the 'I'm fucked' argument. At this point people are just coming out of the woodwork with their own batshit theories trying to pin whatever they can to me to see if it sticks. I'm done. If people want me to die, so be it. If people want fuba dead, so be that. How does a survivor claim not appease town? its a fucking null tell...
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On July 05 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 03:09 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 05 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Like, if you think I should have just claimed survivor in the first place instead of bothering with vig, I already explained that, read my filter. Ah, well I guess I missread a bit. So you are saying that you claimed vigi because you wanted to put fuba in a position where he was forced to claim miller, is that right? Well I assumed that's what he was given, but his claim blindsided me completely. I can't belive once in a million years that this is true. No way in hell did you just not think of the possibilty of him fake-claiming survivor. Like, the only thing you have to do is survive. Yet you are on the verge of failing that because you didn't think insanely simple stuff liek this through. If this is true and you indeed are the survivor, you still deserve to get lynched. You are basically playing against your win con by doing shit like this... Yeah, no. No I'm not. Now you're just flailing 'cause I proved you wrong and you don't feel like unvoting me. But that's ok buddy, I forgive you. So by being stupid, putting yuorself in a fucking super wierd scummy position and then having me calling you out for this, I am flailing? Cool bro!
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On July 05 2013 03:14 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd also like to note, for future reference, are the people voting against me assuming that fuba is actually the survivor? Have they mentioned this out loud in the thread? This information will become pertinent I believe after the flip. You are not doing a very good job of trying to "contribute".
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On July 05 2013 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol here's another fun fact: I've been pretty much winning the vote war (ie I'm not getting lynched) since this shitstorm happened. So why exactly do I even need to be here answering questions for you guys when fuba has posted 3 things and fucked off all day? I'm not here to convince you because you are scum, I'm just showing everyone else why that is the case.
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@Someone who isn't WoS. Is WoS dumb? Like really dumb? Because I would guess he isn't given 6k posts and looking at his profile, most of those are mafia games. If you don't think he is really dumb, you should think he is scum...
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Solstice, why is fuba scum in your eyes?
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3 hours before lynch. noone is here...
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Oats, your reasoning for thinking fuba is scum is just... -.-
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On July 05 2013 04:25 s0Lstice wrote: it's in my filter. actions surrounding the day 1 lynch look pretty scummy. he was there and doing stuff, but not townie stuff.
it really sums up to what I said earlier. my read on WoS has steadily been 'he exists' and my read on fuba is scum. this makes sense with how I think this CC business went down. the discussions afterwards pass the feel check. WoS is all yolo and fuba is not.
I also think Marv has a point with the dick-move stuff.
I think this is the right lynch. I agree that fuba looked worse up untill this point.
But What about the stuff I am saying? Do you not think its really fucking wierdo that he would claim vigi because he wanted to out fuba as scum? The discussion is really irrelevant I'd say. WoS is just repeating the same BS arguments over.
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On July 05 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote: Not got time to read the thread.
Between dick-move analysis and fuba not even bothering to show up, the choice should be pretty obvious. fuba didn't show up all game. His action during this lynch shouldn't be very telling I'd say. He was insanely close to get lynched D1, remember? And just like now, he chose to do nothing about that. His absense is really a null tell.
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On July 05 2013 05:20 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 04:29 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 04:25 s0Lstice wrote: it's in my filter. actions surrounding the day 1 lynch look pretty scummy. he was there and doing stuff, but not townie stuff.
it really sums up to what I said earlier. my read on WoS has steadily been 'he exists' and my read on fuba is scum. this makes sense with how I think this CC business went down. the discussions afterwards pass the feel check. WoS is all yolo and fuba is not.
I also think Marv has a point with the dick-move stuff.
I think this is the right lynch. I agree that fuba looked worse up untill this point. But What about the stuff I am saying? Do you not think its really fucking wierdo that he would claim vigi because he wanted to out fuba as scum? The discussion is really irrelevant I'd say. WoS is just repeating the same BS arguments over. Sorry, had to drive home. I think most of the problems you are having right now come from the fact that you assume that WoS meticulously thought through every possibility with his claim. You are taking this as a given...that WoS would play through the scenario mistake free. Or you are scum  We are not talking small blunders, we are talking major fucking fuck ups dude. And then covering these major fuck ups with yet bigger lies.
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On July 05 2013 05:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 05:27 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 05 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote: Not got time to read the thread.
Between dick-move analysis and fuba not even bothering to show up, the choice should be pretty obvious. fuba didn't show up all game. His action during this lynch shouldn't be very telling I'd say. He was insanely close to get lynched D1, remember? And just like now, he chose to do nothing about that. His absense is really a null tell. a) don't ignore dick-move analysis b) fuba was around for the lynch for 1.5hours before the lynch, also casting a vote to save himself. don't do this. a) I'm not going to base a lynch around dick-move analysis. b) He was around, check. He voted to save himself, check (like this day). He didn't do shit to try to convince anyone the other guy was scum, check (like this day).
So the only thing that differs was that he wasn't actually afk D1. But he's been afk ALOT this game and arguing wheather or not he is lying about that is WIFOM.
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On July 05 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote: i have no idea what you're babbling about so i'm going to just disregard everything you say Lol. D1 you do not want to lynch fuba even though he plays insanely similar to this. So your only legit argument is the dick-analysis. You are a funny person.
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