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Lazermonkey
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On July 03 2013 21:20 Vivax wrote: Well, Oats and stutters I haven't really looked much into yet. It's more that their claim doesn't really prove them to be town in any shape or form IMO. Solstice has been very lurky and didn't care for shit about the lynch D1 makes me suspicious of him. My initial impression from stutters was that he didn't really have any thoughts of his own but just sheeped whatever was going on at the moment but actually, reading through again, stutters is probably not scum if WoS is because WoS has been up his ass literally all game. And WoS is more likely scum than him I'd say.Lazer, can you tell me what you find scummy about those people outside or fuba or point me to previous arguments you still find strong? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On July 03 2013 21:36 Vivax wrote: His reads are quite bad I'd say and he didn't really care at all about the D1 lynch for shit, thogh I guess you could argue he was busy with this Canada day shizzle. It's mostly based on the fact that the claim timing is really wierd (wierd=scummy for the record). And I don't think there are 4 blue roles in this game. The above was @ marv What makes you think that WoS is scum? | ||
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On July 03 2013 22:30 Vivax wrote: So where is the part where I am scum? I don't get this. Well, I remember exactly how you skipped on my arguments to push for Vayne together with marv @ deadline: | ||
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On July 03 2013 22:46 Vivax wrote: Are you really this immune to logic? first the milller thing and now this. The only resonable alternative to WoS being scum is that scum RNGed their RB on him, right? I shouldn't have to explain this to you like you are 3 years old, because you are not...It's totally not suspicious that WoS claims a roleblock when you would expect the cop to get roleblocked. This post formally screams for my theory to be correct: WoS has to claim a roleblock for his claim to be swallowed, and Lazer has to help him and says the roleblock doesn't help WoS in any way (why not?) , after saying it's not indicative of anything and that WoS claim changes a lot of stuff (how?). He even assumes scum RNGd the roleblock (why?), not for a moment does he suspect that WoS could be scum, or that he has been roleblocked by a survivor and that scum has no roleblocker. I'll tell you why, cause he knows WoS didn't get roleblocked, and scum has no roleblocker, and if WoS didn't have to claim vigi, Lazer could have claimed the roleblock. It's just convenient that Lazer comes into the thread after WoS has already posted his shit. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On July 03 2013 22:49 Vivax wrote: Applying your own logic now, you are confirmed scum because that is the only way you would know that fuba really is the survivor. You see how stupid you are now?Marv and Lazer aren't legit at all. If we lynch someone today who isn't marv, it's gonna be WoS. I'm sure as hell not skipping on reducing scum KP today, lynching the survivor doesn't help town in any way. I'm not even sure if town loses if the survivor wins lol. He wins with the winning fraction and could have possible uses as medic, that would be an interesting question to be resolved. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On July 03 2013 22:51 Vivax wrote: Wat.And you dismiss that WoS claims the roleblock to protect his claim cause? | ||
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On July 03 2013 22:54 Vivax wrote: Its really easy explaining the scum KP, let me show you!Oats seriously. I'll hate you forever if you screw this up. And Rayn will hate you even more. Use some fucking logic man, Marv, a strong town player, is alive after claiming miller, and Lazer, the cop, gets neither roleblocked nor killed. The two guys pushing them, me and Rayn, get shot. What do you think was scum thinking when they chose their targets? Renounce on killing two claim-confirmed "townies" to kill two other plyers who are supposedly on the wrong track? We don't lynch outside of WoS/marv/Lazer today, I hope we can agree on this. Marv was under suspicion, hence not a good target I was too, hence not a good target. Rayn was being called town by evreyone basically, hence shot You are either scum holding KP or town, but you were under far less suspicion than me and marv so if you are town the shot makes snese anyway. See? It isn't that hard! | ||
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On July 03 2013 22:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Yep, I can't do anything with my check D1 anyway. marv didnt get shot cause marv wasnt playing. lazer has suspicious claim. Although a RB that would dely the check seems to be better than a random RB. | ||
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On July 03 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote: RB D1 is kinda useless, because they can just RB/kill any other day instead.well, for me, I think a RB that is useful is better than a random RB on a dude that is probably useless. but W/E, its really irrelevant I'd say. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On July 03 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote: But I don't really see how this alignment indiactive though. Why wouldn't he want to claim a good shot as scum if he is gonna get "RBed" anyway? Just seems like a bad play, no?it's a fucking theoretical scenario, good god. If we work under the assumption he's town, then we also have to work under the assumption that he took a super-terrible shot. How is this complicated Oats????? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Just thought of something, why does survivor-fuba claim so late? Wouldn't it make much more sense to claim right away? Scum claiming survivor would be afraid to claim though, because the real survivor could abuse that and out that scum player. The survivor should be much less scared of claiming, you are never going to get shot really. And sure, you might get scared,of town wanting to lynch you, but if we decided to mass claim then you are forced to claim no matter what. And claiming anything but survivor as survivor is as stupid as it gets. Yhea, we really should lynch fuba I guess ^^ | ||
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[B]On July 04 2013 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote:[/B Cba to check right now but wasn't he when we started to claim?fuba couldnt be in thread. | ||
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Catching up now! | ||
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Like, no matter who the survivor is, I'd say he played very very wierd. And not in a good way. But that's something that I'll save for post game. Out of the two stories, I'd say I'm sliiightly more inclined to kill WoS atm... But I'm really fucking puzzled as it is. The way I see it is that both claims are ridiculously late for being survivor claims. Survivors shouldn't be afraid of claiming... If scum can chose between killing town or survivor, who are they going to shoot? Like I get you are afraid but seriously, they aren't going to kill you unless they get the most massive brain cancer. And town should just treat it as null and decide if tehy want to lynch you based on your play, which they would anyway... Fuba's claim can be explained by somewhat bad play and the fact that he was absent for a long time. I can kinda buy that. WoS claim decides to claim vigi instead because he was afraid of scum finding out who he is? But he then explains that if scum got fake claims, they basically know who he is anyway. I don't get why vigi would be a safer claim than survivor, could anyone explain the logic behind this? Actually screw most of what I said. Just thought of this. WoS claims to have gone through ALL of this mess to try avoid scum knowing he is actually the vigilante. But this is BS. He claims vigi that is RBed so the only way scum would not know him being survivor is if the just RNGed their RB onto him. Now this in it self is really fucking unlikely but it does happend. However, if scum actually think that he is vigi, then he is in serious risk of getting killed at night. And survivors want to survive, remember? So the only fucking realistic way that scum would belive that he is vigi is if the survivor randomly RBs him. But then fuba claims he is survivor, he says that he RB anyone. Why would you ever want to go through anything like this as survivor? Well, you wouldn't... Its just too much of a stretch. Fuba's play can be explained by bad play. But WoS is clearly lying here. WoS is the correct person to lynch... | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On July 05 2013 02:22 s0Lstice wrote: But look at what WoS is posting. Just defending his own play and why we should lynch fuba no comments on anything else in case he dies. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all.For someone who is supposedly fighting against the righteous indignation of being CC'd to avoid a lynch, Fuba is being quiet. I'm one to talk I know...but it makes me feel better about my choice. | ||
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On July 05 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Oats, let me here you thoughts on this issue. I have an insanly hard time explaining these actions from WoS to be frank.scum going all in if fuba flips red. | ||
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