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On July 03 2013 23:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. We're going to have to risk the game 3 more times after today to win the game. The issue is that after tonight, 2 of the most level-headed people will be gone and we won't even have got a scum yet. Who's gonna be gone? Vivax obviously. Who else? Vivax won't die because he's insane. You and lazer, or you and gumshoe, or you and s0lstice. Vivax will singlehandedly lose the game for town if he's left alive. Are these townreads?
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On July 04 2013 00:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote: "Vivax won't die because he's insane"
He only got shot N1, pushing Lazer and marv as scumreads with the other dead townie. All that tells me is that mafia are either stupid or egotistical. It's not clear which yet. But you believe that tonight they will abandon those traits and leave Vivax alive?
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On July 04 2013 00:05 Vivax wrote: Marv doesn't have any other reads cause he said he needed to see WoS' flip first.
Does he actually say or imply this? Because like I said, we need to be 100% sure that we lynch correcty today or else we lose the game. Which means marv should be treating WoS as having flipped red already if he's voting for him.
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On July 04 2013 00:13 marvellosity wrote: JarJar, what do you think of gumshoe at the moment? I'm taking his claim at face value for now. He claimed blue early and wasn't CCd.
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On July 04 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote: What do you make of the fact that he attacked me consistently ('false' accusations, leading town to ruin, leading a purposeful mislynch, 'need to be held accountable') and ended up voting WoS? Has he really been attacking you all that much? I guess I really didn't get that impression from him. But the fact that he votes WoS makes perfect sense because if he's blue, he has to be sure one of the other blues is lying and WoS is the most likely to be.
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Though I will say gumshoe is another "safer" lynch kinda like fuba is in that we don't autolose the game if he isn't town because we'd have vengefull shot to fall back on.
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On July 04 2013 00:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote: What do you make of the fact that he attacked me consistently ('false' accusations, leading town to ruin, leading a purposeful mislynch, 'need to be held accountable') and ended up voting WoS? Has he really been attacking you all that much? I guess I really didn't get that impression from him. But the fact that he votes WoS makes perfect sense because if he's blue, he has to be sure one of the other blues is lying and WoS is the most likely to be. So if you buy his claim/towniness, shouldn't you be voting with him? Said this earlier:On July 03 2013 22:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: Not sure who's the better lynch between fuba and WoS. But now after realizing the whole MYLO thing, I think the answer is obviously fuba.
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Here's a small case I made on Fuba :On July 03 2013 21:56 JarJarDrinks wrote: Not totally caught up but I see fuba claimed 3rd party. Few things first:
- Doesn't that pretty much mean he's extremely unlikely to win? If I'm 3rd party I think I'd just counter the scummiest looking dude and take my chances.
- Why not jail someone? Especially gumshoe who claimed blue and could potentially vig kill him? Saying that he figured vig would shoot lazr or marv seems like a poor reason to not use ur ability.
- I find it way too coincidental that he's the last claim and he happens to have the only non-red role left in the game. That means for him to be telling the truth, every scummy got lucky and picked a role not already in the game.
Gonna reread stuff but I doubt I'll see anything that would make me want to vote anywhere else. and I really want to emphasize that last point:
The last person to claim just so happened to have the only role left in the game
Add to that the fact that FUBA IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE THREAD THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO MISLYNCH AND NOT LOSE THE GAME and it becomes a no-brainer.
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On July 04 2013 00:49 marvellosity wrote: Generally I think lynching someone because you can afford their mislynch is an upside-down way of looking at things. Isn't that why vote no-lynch @ Mylo is a good strategy?
Please answer these questions marv: - Do you agree that if we mislynch today we lose the game? - Are you 100% sure that WoS is scum?
Cause if you answer yes to the first, I don't know how you can answer no to the 2nd.
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On July 04 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote: And if he's not survivor, then it's not mylo anyways. Lol, what kind of reasoning is this? If he's not survivor, he's scum and we lynch him anyway.
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On July 03 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Is Vivax scum marv? ##vote WoS u voted fuba in the voting thread
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wait, whats happening w/ wos now?
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Can u just give a simple yes or no that ur claiming survivor?
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Well whatever he is, he isn't town
##vote: WoS
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Any chance they're both scum?
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How is this even a debate? 3 blues already claimed and the guy who's only objective is to survive goes and claims the 4th blue spot???o_O!!! I say Poppycock!
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On July 04 2013 08:40 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 08:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: How is this even a debate? 3 blues already claimed and the guy who's only objective is to survive goes and claims the 4th blue spot???o_O!!! I say Poppycock! Stop thinking like a townie, your posting as if he only has to worry about being lynched. As long as they are the odds hes taking claiming blue are his best. Think about it from a scum perspective, heres a guy claiming he got role blocked and hes blue, you didn't role block him, which means survivor is out there and hes protecting blues. As scum finding survivor is now your priority. No it isn't. Lynching town is your priority. Because if town get's lynched today, it's gg. Survivor only has to help lynch town today and he wins w/ scum.
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On July 04 2013 08:49 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 08:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 08:40 gumshoe wrote:On July 04 2013 08:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: How is this even a debate? 3 blues already claimed and the guy who's only objective is to survive goes and claims the 4th blue spot???o_O!!! I say Poppycock! Stop thinking like a townie, your posting as if he only has to worry about being lynched. As long as they are the odds hes taking claiming blue are his best. Think about it from a scum perspective, heres a guy claiming he got role blocked and hes blue, you didn't role block him, which means survivor is out there and hes protecting blues. As scum finding survivor is now your priority. No it isn't. Lynching town is your priority. Because if town get's lynched today, it's gg. Survivor only has to help lynch town today and he wins w/ scum. Yes but thats only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat. The role claim makes this impossible. In this game hes the biggest threat to scum and he cant cruize by, they'd be stupid not to shoot him. He in tern would be retarded not to somehow cover his own ass if they try to shoot him. No it's not "only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat". If town get's lynched, game over period. That's a fact. There's no getting around that. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.
WoS fakeclaims hoping to get you lynched and it's gg. He was probably banking on it being a race between him and you. Once it's quite clear that race is actually between him and fuba, scum realizes that they can't win today regardless so he goes w/ the fake survivor claim. It's the only thing that makes sense.
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On July 04 2013 08:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 08:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 08:49 gumshoe wrote:On July 04 2013 08:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 08:40 gumshoe wrote:On July 04 2013 08:07 JarJarDrinks wrote: How is this even a debate? 3 blues already claimed and the guy who's only objective is to survive goes and claims the 4th blue spot???o_O!!! I say Poppycock! Stop thinking like a townie, your posting as if he only has to worry about being lynched. As long as they are the odds hes taking claiming blue are his best. Think about it from a scum perspective, heres a guy claiming he got role blocked and hes blue, you didn't role block him, which means survivor is out there and hes protecting blues. As scum finding survivor is now your priority. No it isn't. Lynching town is your priority. Because if town get's lynched today, it's gg. Survivor only has to help lynch town today and he wins w/ scum. Yes but thats only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat. The role claim makes this impossible. In this game hes the biggest threat to scum and he cant cruize by, they'd be stupid not to shoot him. He in tern would be retarded not to somehow cover his own ass if they try to shoot him. No it's not "only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat". If town get's lynched, game over period. That's a fact. There's no getting around that. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors. WoS fakeclaims hoping to get you lynched and it's gg. He was probably banking on it being a race between him and you. Once it's quite clear that race is actually between him and fuba, scum realizes that they can't win today regardless so he goes w/ the fake survivor claim. It's the only thing that makes sense. Sorry, why on earth do you think WoS would have thought it was going to be between gumshoe and him? What am I missing? Or are you including Lazer too? yeah possibly lazer. But I was thinking that claiming the roleblock when you would think they'd use it on a claimed blue makes me think that they were gunning for gumshoe.
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Has WoS said who or whether or not he jailed last night?
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