Dont you go taking all the credit now : P.

Kk, so this effectively confirms Marv's innocence, by extension it confirms Lazer's probably as in why miller if no cop ect ect.
Also I really doubt Oats is scum, his actions today just did not fit if he is. Wos is third party, Vivax soaked up a shot. Cant comment on Gumshoe, biased about him. This leaves a pool of three players.

Jar Jar, who strongly opposed todays list, and whose claim (the only reasons we let him go day 1) now means nothing( I wanna kill him first in case you cant tell XD).

Stutters, who just went along with it. Just like hes done all game long.

and Solstice who flip flopped until it looked like town was gonna secure the lynch on scum.

I propose 2 out of the three of these players has to be scum. The only other player who really could be scum is Lazer, but I doubt it as I said before.

Pretty sure I've been pretty effusive towards you already, you greedy bastard.

I'm not willing to extend your veil of 'confirmedness' over nearly so many people.

s0lstice and JJD are looking the worst to me now, just on feels. JJD completely disappeared after arguing at the lynch, and after I posed him the dick-move analysis question; he couldn't answer it, and he couldn't bullshit because he played mafia with WoS.
s0lstice just hasn't been producing the level of effort and analysis that I expect from him (see Les Mis for comparison)

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:23 GMT

#1971

On July 05 2013 07:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Good lord people. If you believe WoS that he didn't get his fake role untill after the mass claim was brought up then I'm still confirmed town.

Though I'm pretty sure he's still scum.

Can't tell if srs.

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:28 GMT

#1973

I never assume miller = cop, that's just bad thinking, and I've stated it more than once this game. I agree he's not at all a priority, but he has to be looked at purely for opposing this lynch so hard.

Will try to find time to do some research on s0lstice/JJD tomorrow and see if I can find what I'm looking for (or otherwise).

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:30 GMT

#1974

By the way, I know stutters is the final one of your 'three' - I've played with Stutters a lot and he just feels like Stutters. If Stutters is scum, he also came out pretty hard bussing fuba, which while this is certainly possible, is less likely than the alternative where he's town. Guess I'll have to read him at some point too but there's other priorities.

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:31 GMT

#1975

Gonna cross reference some day 1 votes with the votes today at some point. Maybe it'll be interesting.

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:33 GMT

#1977

Your theory is already debunked because fuba wasn't one of your 3 and he just flipped.

Gonna start playing yet, Vivax?

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 22:38 GMT

#1979

On July 05 2013 07:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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Which part are you doubting? You don't believe that if I claimed my role at a time that is supposedly before mafia was given their fakeclaims it confirms my townie status?

or did you mean about WoS still being scum?

I assume mafia were given their fakeclaims during the 'pause', or failing that at the start of the game, both before you claimed? Did WoS claim a specific other time?

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 23:03 GMT

#1986

On July 05 2013 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:

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JJD I just remembered something that might give you townie points.
You'll have to work for them though.
Ask iGrok what I told you to earlier; whether or not I can reveal the time I got my fakeclaims.

Isn't JJD's point rather that you did already say when you got the fakeclaims, and it was later on?

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 23:09 GMT

#1988

I'm saying that's his point. You specifically said you only got your fakeclaims way later.

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 23:20 GMT

#1994

Vivax you're a treasure

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 23:21 GMT

#1995

gumshoe, what do you make of JJD's point about the fakeclaims stuff?

marvellosity

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July 04 2013 23:54 GMT

#2001

Seems reasonably likely to me scum got their fakeclaims at the start to be honest.

"But marv!" I hear you say. "You have no basis for saying that! Why scum and not survivor?"

Well I have first-hand experience as a host with mucking up giving claims slightly. Newbie XXX I think. In any case, I gave scum the VT role PM at the start, but forgot to give it to the blues until halfway through Day 1 (sound familiar? xD). Precedent for scum getting things in a timely manner and other people not :p