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On July 04 2013 07:06 gumshoe wrote:
I think I'm done for today seeing as theres not much more to say until dat flip. In fact if I had a brain I would shut up right about now... but... Marv, seeing as there are likely no fake claims (since why would Fuba take survivor and why would WOS take blue and If scum had fake claims why wouldn't survivor? Which seems doubly true to me considering it was pretty much a scum slip from Fuba) how do you feel about Oats taking the very last townie spot?
Also Interesting to note he defended WOS and Fuba early on in the day and then advocated no lynch. (worst possible choice for town in my opinion, scum just shoots confirmed townies and were back to the same problem as before) But when WOS openly said he was going after mafia and claimed survivor, Oats immediately abandoned him, and didn't even consider Fuba...
In other words Oats defended WOS along with Fuba because the ideal scum agenda was mislynch, when he saw mislynch was unlikely to happen he advocated no lynch. Finally when Fuba came under threat he said we should lynch WOS for sure , he said that because there was no other choice for scum... How is it that his agenda just happens to so perfectly line up with mafias (Assuming Fuba is scum, pretty darn certain, which well know by the end of the day.)?
Kk, I said it, the box is open. I'm out.
I've not got the energy today, but it's picking out dumb from scum. For example, advocating no-lynch is a particularly stupid thing for mafia to suggest, much more so than town in my opinion - there's like zero chance that town will accept no-lynch with 3 mafia + survivor running around, so it only serves to make you look bad.
I've not been too amazing at reading Oats in general of late, but I've had a somewhat townie vibe from him. Oats being wrong constantly isn't a surprise, he'll go from retardo-tunnelling to flashes of insight and clear thinking and absolutely everything in between.
Going back to the no-lynch, again I think it's almost impossible that mafia would think that this idea would fly as town. I dunno. I think it's more likely that if Oats is mafia that he would simply push WoS. Pushing a no-lynch just seems like too dumb a thing to do for mafia. Probably. :D
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You may as well catch up dear.
Time for the gloves to come off.
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On July 04 2013 08:21 Vivax wrote:
It's mind boggling.
Marv: "WoS is scum cause shooting me is so bad he can't be town."
WoS: "Sup I only told you a lot of bullshit"
Marv: "Oh nice well guess I can believe that from you let's go for fuba"
I was right, it wasn't a move town-WoS would make.
Did you bother reading what gumshoe wrote?
Or are you just going to write snide, useless bullshit like you always do?
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Or is gumshoe scum as well? Anything to fit in with the marv-scum theory, right Vivax?
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Seriously, how is that the only crap you saw fit to type upon reading the thread, Vivax? I really want to know.
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If you can't have reasoned debate with someone you think is town, Vivax, you need to reassess exactly what it is you're doing this game.
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On July 04 2013 08:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 08:49 gumshoe wrote:On July 04 2013 08:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 08:40 gumshoe wrote:On July 04 2013 08:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
How is this even a debate? 3 blues already claimed and the guy who's only objective is to survive goes and claims the 4th blue spot???o_O!!! I say Poppycock! Stop thinking like a townie, your posting as if he only has to worry about being lynched. As long as they are the odds hes taking claiming blue are his best. Think about it from a scum perspective, heres a guy claiming he got role blocked and hes blue, you didn't role block him, which means survivor is out there and hes protecting blues. As scum finding survivor is now your priority. No it isn't. Lynching town is your priority. Because if town get's lynched today, it's gg. Survivor only has to help lynch town today and he wins w/ scum. Yes but thats only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat. The role claim makes this impossible. In this game hes the biggest threat to scum and he cant cruize by, they'd be stupid not to shoot him. He in tern would be retarded not to somehow cover his own ass if they try to shoot him. No it's not "only if he can go under the radar and prove not to be a threat". If town get's lynched, game over period. That's a fact. There's no getting around that. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors. WoS fakeclaims hoping to get you lynched and it's gg. He was probably banking on it being a race between him and you. Once it's quite clear that race is actually between him and fuba, scum realizes that they can't win today regardless so he goes w/ the fake survivor claim. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Sorry, why on earth do you think WoS would have thought it was going to be between gumshoe and him? What am I missing? Or are you including Lazer too?
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On July 04 2013 08:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 08:55 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2013 08:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 04 2013 08:51 Vivax wrote:
There is no Hitler, marv claimed miller, lazer claimed cop, WoS picked the last remaining role and claimed a roleblock.
See you in fucking postgame. If you need to find scum, read my posts and Rayn's, the guys who scum chose to shot.
Holy shit. So sure of yourself. That's pretty cute. Anyway 2 more hours. I don't actually give a shit about what happens to me at this point as I've already assumed that I've lost. Maybe the actual thinking townies don't want the game lost for them as well. If you don't give a shit then go away. No one requests your presence. Only your scalp and a swastika in your forehead Oh really? Is that how the rest of town feels? If so then I'll gladly fuck off and let myself be lynched. You guys can make the call for when I come back in 2 hours. If no one wants to hear from me I'll just go out gracefully and let scum have the game.
Cmon, don't hyperbole and threaten like that WoS. If you are indeed survivor, lynching you doesn't end the game in scum's favour either.
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So when WoS posts whatever he has to post a bit later, fuba, the sooner you respond to it with how you view things the better.
Bed for me though.
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Not yet. Too many unanswered questions at the moment. Really am off this time ^^
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On July 04 2013 14:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL I just checked when I got the claims.
As much as I'd love to shove it down your throat JJD it doesn't seem as though I'd be allowed to really talk about it/compare.
You go ahead and bug iGrok to see if it's allowed because I've bugged him enough this game and again I honestly don't care.
This kind of post (along with a couple others) makes me feel like my vote is in the right place, because it's so god-damn dirty.
If this is scum casually trying to use appeal-to-authority of the host, I'll be pretty disgusted tbh :/ Don't think WoS is like that.
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thx for your contributions lately Vivax, they've been real eye-openers x
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Nor discuss important and well-written posts with townreads (i.e. gumshoe), which was rather my point dear.
But do carry on. Best just to shout the same drivel like a loon after all.
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On July 04 2013 18:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
thx for your contributions lately Vivax, they've been real eye-openers x Well sorry I don't have the time to exchange inflammatory posts with assholes
Just a little muse - ever seen me be an 'asshole' as mafia by the way, or is it only town? 
Only town right? Thought so.
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I have played many games of mafia, Oats, of course I'm aware of my meta.
I don't know what I think of JJD yet because I'm still not super-mega-comfortable with where my vote is yet, and there's no point talking about him until we have a flip.
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A lot of what WoS said about fakeclaims lines up with how I'd been feeling about fakeclaims.
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Like there are 12 townie roles, and 12 total players in the game. I think iGrok would have foreseen that if mafia have no idea what to claim at any point, then a massclaim looks really really tough on mafia. Also, look at... the Active Games thread? iGrok was contemplating using this as an open setup, but decided against this.
What does an open setup mean? It means that mafia (and town alike) would know what roles existed. So in this game as we have it, I think that mafia knew what roles existed in the game, and were thus given a safe, fakeclaim each, and the Survivor got one too, to make 12=12.
I'm aware this is speculation, but this is what makes the most sense to me.
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It means that I find WoS's version of events more likely than fuba's (which was no fakeclaim given)
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On July 04 2013 20:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
k cool.
Why dont you want to speculate about the other scum members?
Because there's one important thing to do today, and that thing isn't name the entire scumteam.
I flicked through your filter and didn't see you doing so either. What gives, El Hypocritico? ^_^
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