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On July 03 2013 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah im inclined to agree you about the second part of fuba's post. Its so odd, I think he must be survivor
good god we agree on something?
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On July 03 2013 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: Vivax, if Fuba is 3rd party then we are @ mylo. Look @ Marvs #s above. Lynching Fuba is the correct play IMO.
Lynching scum is the correct play.
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On July 03 2013 23:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:Vivix is 100% confirmed town.
No, he isn't, but it's fairly likely he's town, yes.
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On July 03 2013 23:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote: JJD so cute. Vivax shot his scummembers for towncred TWICE No. When I shot Toad, it was cause we gave up. I gave up the same day I took the cred for the shot, and we agreed on it in the chat. The other time, it was with Dandel's smurf. He asked me to shoot him, and I had fakeclaimed vigi so I had to shoot someone, so I shot scum. You're telling me I was in need to sacrifice a KP and risk getting cc'd when I was in no danger of lynch at all?
The delicious, delicious irony.
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On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside.
We're going to have to risk the game 3 more times after today to win the game.
The issue is that after tonight, 2 of the most level-headed people will be gone and we won't even have got a scum yet.
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On July 03 2013 23:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. We're going to have to risk the game 3 more times after today to win the game. The issue is that after tonight, 2 of the most level-headed people will be gone and we won't even have got a scum yet. Who's gonna be gone? Vivax obviously. Who else?
Vivax won't die because he's insane. You and lazer, or you and gumshoe, or you and s0lstice. Vivax will singlehandedly lose the game for town if he's left alive.
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On July 03 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Now now, play nice marv. I think that scum has fakeclaims. VT fakeclaims.
I was playing nice, and it's true.
I actually agree with you to an extent about fakeclaims. I don't think scum were left totally in the dark about what they could claim.
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On July 03 2013 23:56 JarJarDrinks wrote: Also people. Keep in mind rayne had fuba on his scum list,
@marv, You really think that rayn was completely wrong on all 3 of his scumreads?
I think it's a very large possibility.
His whole scumteam was based on an elaborate and ridiculous connection theory based upon random unprovoked (in my case) fakeclaiming.
When you're listing a 3-man scumteam in the first cycle on these grounds... well, I'm sorry, but-you're-doin-it-wrong.
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The massive issue I'm having with this game at the moment is that it's very easy for scum to look good simply by being reasonable.
That's a rough situation to be in.
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On July 03 2013 23:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:50 marvellosity wrote:On July 03 2013 23:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. We're going to have to risk the game 3 more times after today to win the game. The issue is that after tonight, 2 of the most level-headed people will be gone and we won't even have got a scum yet. Who's gonna be gone? Vivax obviously. Who else? Vivax won't die because he's insane. You and lazer, or you and gumshoe, or you and s0lstice. Vivax will singlehandedly lose the game for town if he's left alive. Are these townreads?
It's people I think have a good chance of dying if they're town.
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On July 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote: "Vivax won't die because he's insane"
He only got shot N1, pushing Lazer and marv as scumreads with the other dead townie.
All that tells me is that mafia are either stupid or egotistical. It's not clear which yet.
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On July 04 2013 00:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:02 marvellosity wrote:On July 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote: "Vivax won't die because he's insane"
He only got shot N1, pushing Lazer and marv as scumreads with the other dead townie. All that tells me is that mafia are either stupid or egotistical. It's not clear which yet. But you believe that tonight they will abandon those traits and leave Vivax alive?
Sigh. It would be the right play (imo). From my perspective I get shooting rayn to legitimise my lynch (and I think to legitimise WoS's claim). If we assume Vivax is telling the truth, then they really went all-out with this idea.
The reason it's stupid or egotistical is that it's dumb to kill townies who have looney theories, when you could leave them alive and let them push them. OR it's egotistical for mafia to believe that doing so would work and they'd be able to push my lynch through regardless. It's why i'm skeptical of Vivax still, he's one of the players who might actually think like that as mafia. WoS is another.
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On July 04 2013 00:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv, come on, tell me which vanilla townie claim is fake
why don't you tell me?
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I said I don't need to name an entire scumteam before we flipped one scum only.
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JarJar, what do you think of gumshoe at the moment?
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What do you make of the fact that he attacked me consistently ('false' accusations, leading town to ruin, leading a purposeful mislynch, 'need to be held accountable') and ended up voting WoS?
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On July 04 2013 00:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote: What do you make of the fact that he attacked me consistently ('false' accusations, leading town to ruin, leading a purposeful mislynch, 'need to be held accountable') and ended up voting WoS? Has he really been attacking you all that much? I guess I really didn't get that impression from him. But the fact that he votes WoS makes perfect sense because if he's blue, he has to be sure one of the other blues is lying and WoS is the most likely to be.
So if you buy his claim/towniness, shouldn't you be voting with him?
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On July 04 2013 00:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:34 marvellosity wrote:On July 04 2013 00:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 04 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote: What do you make of the fact that he attacked me consistently ('false' accusations, leading town to ruin, leading a purposeful mislynch, 'need to be held accountable') and ended up voting WoS? Has he really been attacking you all that much? I guess I really didn't get that impression from him. But the fact that he votes WoS makes perfect sense because if he's blue, he has to be sure one of the other blues is lying and WoS is the most likely to be. So if you buy his claim/towniness, shouldn't you be voting with him? Said this earlier: Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 22:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: Not sure who's the better lynch between fuba and WoS. But now after realizing the whole MYLO thing, I think the answer is obviously fuba.
I don't think it's obvious at all, because the chances are reasonably high, imo, that he is in fact survivor.
And if he's not survivor, then it's not mylo anyways.
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On July 04 2013 00:42 Stutters695 wrote: Marv, now that I'm caught up, what do you make of Gumshoe's claim?
When he claimed and said he was blue as opposed to a PR, he claimed being vengeful/vet, practically ensuring he wasn't shot over night and nullifying any benefit of his Vengeful role. It's not an unreasonable assumption to assume scum wouldn't expect every PR to be in the game as well so if they knew You/Lazer were truthful claiming that they're Vet/Venge guarantees they don't die overnight. Only consolation is he claimed before Vivax so he'd be taking a large unecessary risk. Think there is any chance he's scum? I'm kinda leaning he's telling the truth by necessity.
There's no difference between blue and PR, they're the same lingo. i.e. he could have been vigilante.
I'd say that how his explanation came about (opposing / uncomfortable with massclaiming ----> being blue) does make sense.
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