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On July 11 2013 12:34 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 12:30 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 11 2013 12:25 FirmTofu wrote:On July 11 2013 11:06 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 11 2013 10:59 austinmcc wrote:
Currently not voting Maju are... Tofu, Oats, austinmcc, sentinel, Chezinu. If we determined right now that maju was scum, and that list of five people became fairly suspicious to you, who comes out looking incredibly incredibly scummy to you (/w reasoning if you would) and who looks bad for the vote, but probably isn't scum and just happened to not be voting Maju? If oats is scum then well played, he's been saving my town reads all day. Will deal with him at lylo if I have to. (1)Tofu is null he could go either way for me, He has reads and is contributing though so I like that he's actively participating and not hiding in the shadows when it's pretty easy to do so this game. you, no comment. Others seem to understand your play better than I do so ill leave it to them sentinel just joined in for Abenson who was pretty fucking scummy, must watch. He just voted for maju and nuked xig so we will have great info after today on him. Chezinu lol (2)If maju flips scum The one that looks the worst in this group is probably you/tofu to be honest.You, because apparently you have a lot of scum traits going for you from the input of people that have played with you and you seem to actively be trying to get into my head which isn't necesarily very townie, its more of a manipulatory way of seeing if I am a threat to you or not. (3)Tofu because he's been pushing weird lynches all game and not really contributing to the flow of the game at all. He's not giving us any info to work with, he's just tossing his vote around which has produced scum in the past. Before I get back to reading the thread, I would like to address this scummy post. I have numbered and bolded the relevant statements so it is easier for you to see. (1) He claims I am null to him. (2) He says that I somehow look bad if maju flips scum, implying that his death would tell something about me. (3) In his explanation of why, he fails to speak about anything that relates Maju to me and says I am scummy based on points that should have been addressed in (1) itself. He effectively contradicted himself within his own post while simultaneously failing to justify why I would appear scummy if maju flips scum. Thank you Vayne, for further justifying my scum read on you. You don't need any justification anyway, you're going to tunnel me until I flip green. No point arguing with players like you. If you are actually town we can talk about this in endgame. I didn't tunnel many of the players I accused. You are the exception because you actually appear scummy and I have strong arguments that make a solid case against you. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge these points either makes you 1) A bad town player or 2) A bad scum player.Let's play the game, not just keep saying, "You'll never stop voting me, so there's no point in defending myself." I can always be convinced otherwise, but you aren't helping your case right now.
hurr guess were done here then, don't have time for hypocrites
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Lets not turn this into basterd mini mafia again, take claims with a grain of salt as I'm sure scum have fake roleclaims. I could see any of the roles mentioned as being town or scum. There is probably even roles that are on both sides, like Immune one. Don't assume people are town just because they claim a role.
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yo there is clearly not 4 immune ones in this game that are all town sided, if by some chance I actually get lynched today you have an easy lynch pool for tomorrow.
No fucking way in hell are there 4 of them, and there are very scummy people in that pool
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and yea don't block the jampi nuke whoever was thinking of doing that, if we missed on maju there's a good chance jampi is scum
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On July 12 2013 03:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
and yea don't block the jampi nuke whoever was thinking of doing that, if we missed on maju there's a good chance jampi is scum And what if maju is scum? You lookin so scummy to me but whateffer.
if he's scum then obviously jampi is town but we don't know until the flip
1 scum and 1 lurking town = better then 1 lurking town as our lynch
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And I dont really see how pre flip association is scummy, Idk why you guys keep saying that. It's a towntell if anything since I don't have any of the answers.
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There's also the flaw of me being town, I don't really see how I'm a question mark. What motives have I had in this game that is scum driven?
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I claimed in the very first post of this day in a discreet way in case it came down to this, lets see if the bandwagon has an answer for my scum motives or that.
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On July 12 2013 03:57 Z-BosoN wrote:Wait a minute... what did you claim?
Read the first post and think about it after you cross analyze the flips of the first day and the first night. I won't reveal it if I don't have to but some people will understand.
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On July 12 2013 03:58 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm thinking he's claiming Kenpachi, but he could also be leaving room for a war protestor claim. I don't think this changes anything. Xatalos' logic is perfectly sound and this claim does nothing to refute it.
ok this is the first post you've made where I think you might actually be scum. He's town but who cares kill him anyway because another player is using a methodical approach instead of scumhunting?
What?
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On July 11 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote:
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Do Not Nuke Alakaslam Or Onegu
believes their claims when breadcrumbed
does not believe my claim when breadcrumbed, I am conveniently the guy he has been tunneling all game.
ERROR, HUGE CONTRADICTION IN MOTIVES
Firmtofu is scum.
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On July 12 2013 04:03 Z-BosoN wrote:Veyne might be trying to smarty us as scum. I said I wanted to "Save him for later" in d1 because I thought he claimed cop: Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:41 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
doesn't Z-boson just look like a name that's going to flip scum? Do you have anything to say about anything related to the game? what in particular? The chezinu nuke already is weird but we havent seen any flips yet. You were perfectly capable of giving analysis on D1 in Basterd mafia. I expect you a capable doing that here aswell. I'll take a raincheck on that then. I have commented on everything I found interesting so far so I guess I should close the thread now as I'm just spamming at this point. raincheck = Rayne Check! This is more or less confirmed by his reaction to rayne's lying: Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 09 2013 07:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
dandel, gumshoe, ghost, onegu.... I think rayn is town he just messed up. I thought ON might be scum too but wasn't sure enough of it to vote for that those are the 4 im looking at heavily after the voting. All 3 of them gave absolutely zero reason to flip onto ON last second Now, at a time when rayne is under heavy pressure he just nonchallantly dismisses it as "meh. He's town but messed up"... This really tells us that he's confident about it because of the "rain check" And now he tries to claim as kenpachi? Erm.... I feel something is wrong here
Lol, I've played about 5 or so games with rayne now, we are much better at reading each other. When he's that active and doing crazy shit, he's town.
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On July 12 2013 04:10 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:04 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 11 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote:
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Do Not Nuke Alakaslam Or Onegu believes their claims when breadcrumbed does not believe my claim when breadcrumbed, I am conveniently the guy he has been tunneling all game. ERROR, HUGE CONTRADICTION IN MOTIVES Firmtofu is scum. Totally different situations. Alakaslam and Onegu specifically hinted to one specific role. They have multiple posts breadcrumbing their roles. I don't have a strong case on either one of them. I have a strong case on you. There is strong logic that indicates you are scum and/or that your lynch would tell us a lot about other people's roles.
yea I also hinted at one specific role the entire game. Tunnel me long enough and ill actually care enough to destroy your play, bad move bud
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On July 12 2013 04:30 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 12 2013 04:03 Z-BosoN wrote:Veyne might be trying to smarty us as scum. I said I wanted to "Save him for later" in d1 because I thought he claimed cop: On July 07 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:41 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
doesn't Z-boson just look like a name that's going to flip scum? Do you have anything to say about anything related to the game? what in particular? The chezinu nuke already is weird but we havent seen any flips yet. You were perfectly capable of giving analysis on D1 in Basterd mafia. I expect you a capable doing that here aswell. I'll take a raincheck on that then. I have commented on everything I found interesting so far so I guess I should close the thread now as I'm just spamming at this point. raincheck = Rayne Check! This is more or less confirmed by his reaction to rayne's lying: On July 09 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 09 2013 07:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
dandel, gumshoe, ghost, onegu.... I think rayn is town he just messed up. I thought ON might be scum too but wasn't sure enough of it to vote for that those are the 4 im looking at heavily after the voting. All 3 of them gave absolutely zero reason to flip onto ON last second Now, at a time when rayne is under heavy pressure he just nonchallantly dismisses it as "meh. He's town but messed up"... This really tells us that he's confident about it because of the "rain check" And now he tries to claim as kenpachi? Erm.... I feel something is wrong here Lol, I've played about 5 or so games with rayne now, we are much better at reading each other. When he's that active and doing crazy shit, he's town. Then why did you not pronounce yourself when Rayne was being bombarded by Ace , MZ and a few others, and help defend someone you were pretty sure was town? Why did you only mention him once being pressured?
what the hell are you talking about? I told people multiple times to stop the rayn nonsense, people listening was a different story. Don't make shit up or we have nothing to talk about here.
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On July 12 2013 05:00 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 12 2013 04:30 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 12 2013 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 12 2013 04:03 Z-BosoN wrote:Veyne might be trying to smarty us as scum. I said I wanted to "Save him for later" in d1 because I thought he claimed cop: On July 07 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:41 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
doesn't Z-boson just look like a name that's going to flip scum? Do you have anything to say about anything related to the game? what in particular? The chezinu nuke already is weird but we havent seen any flips yet. You were perfectly capable of giving analysis on D1 in Basterd mafia. I expect you a capable doing that here aswell. I'll take a raincheck on that then. I have commented on everything I found interesting so far so I guess I should close the thread now as I'm just spamming at this point. raincheck = Rayne Check! This is more or less confirmed by his reaction to rayne's lying: On July 09 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 09 2013 07:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
dandel, gumshoe, ghost, onegu.... I think rayn is town he just messed up. I thought ON might be scum too but wasn't sure enough of it to vote for that those are the 4 im looking at heavily after the voting. All 3 of them gave absolutely zero reason to flip onto ON last second Now, at a time when rayne is under heavy pressure he just nonchallantly dismisses it as "meh. He's town but messed up"... This really tells us that he's confident about it because of the "rain check" And now he tries to claim as kenpachi? Erm.... I feel something is wrong here Lol, I've played about 5 or so games with rayne now, we are much better at reading each other. When he's that active and doing crazy shit, he's town. Then why did you not pronounce yourself when Rayne was being bombarded by Ace , MZ and a few others, and help defend someone you were pretty sure was town? Why did you only mention him once being pressured? what the hell are you talking about? I told people multiple times to stop the rayn nonsense, people listening was a different story. Don't make shit up or we have nothing to talk about here. Wait, you clearly wanted the rayne thing to stop, but because you were angry it clogged up discussion. This is pretty clear from both these posts that followed: Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 22:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
We should probably give this rayn thing a rest for a bit as its killing discussion before the night post. People that have a chance to die should really throw out some reads/cases before they are gone.
I really need people's opinions on these three men, as I think they are all scum.
gumshoe, ghost, onegu
They don't have time to post anything meaningful in the thread but are able to show up last second and ninjavote for ON? Especially gumshoe who I know is much more capable than this. Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
I cant believe how long this rayn thing has gone on. If I didn't know better its just scum talking to each other and completely shutting down all discussion but that is not the correct answer. Nowhere (correct me if I'm wrong) did you mention that "rayne does this type of shit as town all the time" during the discussion on his shenanigans, or express your supposed confidence that he was town. Only after he died, you go ahead and say that you knew this all along: Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 07:09 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 10 2013 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Two kills? So scum got a Vigi or something? I dearly hope that one of those wasn't a town kill....
I'm really surprised by rayn though since he was getting a lot of flak tonight. And especially that I live still. Well, it's a relief I guess. He was pretty clearly town after all he did the first day. Since roulette I have become much better at understanding his motives. We just have to decide if these dudes were right with their conspiracy theory or if scum is just trying to throw us off I dunno, I think that if I thought someone was "pretty clearly town" I'd be more insistent on defending said person, instead of simply saying "hey, let's stop talking about him". Answer me one thing, just to be clear. You said that you dunno if it's just scum trying to clog up the thread, in the bolded part. Who are you referring to?
That was when it was meapak, rayn, and austin bickering and it looked so ridiculous to me I said tongue in cheek that it was scum clogging up the thread but if you read the whole statement I say it is wrong because they are very townie, just arguing about weird shit.
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Actually I just went back to I swear this is mini mafia and cross analyzed jampi there where he got mislynched day 1 and his play here is very different. I am fairly convinced he is scum now.
When he flipped town there he actually gave reasons for his scum/town reads and contributed to the thread before he died, here he is a lot angrier/slinging shit. He only came back to the thread once he realized he was saved by geript.
##unvote
##vote: Jampi
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On July 12 2013 07:03 Ace wrote:
Yea that DI/ON lynch was legit. We've got lots of stuff to go over. MG also in trouble. Maybe VA.
doubtful, I was on the dandel lynch and me and WoS brought it to light. I'm 1/2 on meta, sue me
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OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, FirmTofu,
Alakaslam, geript, ghost_403, Chezinu, geript, TanGeng, gumshoe, johnnywup, Onegu
nuke into that.
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Good news is, as I expected there are roles that go both ways. One immune down, 3 to go. There are immune scum/fake claimers for sure
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