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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 18:34 GMT
#516
Xalatos is dead till we learn otherwise so I'll skip him, Chez is madness incarnate, Rayne would be dumb to sheep someone so early as scum and not expect reprisal, you've already posted more in this first day than nearly all of Basterd XD so Jhonny and Geript it is.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 18:50 GMT
#520
Geript is likely not scum, they'res a noticeable effort to guide and enhance discussion from the get go and I dont think his love tunnel ( no matter how faithful) is focused solely on Rayne. It probably looks forward as well to the prospect of all the fishy responses that come up as a result of his spotlight on Rayne's risky play. So ima nope on a Geript lynch.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#522
I can see why Jhonny Wup might get lynched alot as town. He has that annoying quality of seeing the worst in everyones posting and subsequently acting confrontational about it. Believing malice before ignorance and the like. That said, his posting doesn't look outright scummy, just aggravating, id say his lynch is a bus but with 27 people in a game who bloody knows.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#523
On July 08 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gumshoe look into maju/chez/originalname.


I'll do Maju and original, Chez I wanna talk to though, not gonna comment on him till I get a chance to.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#525
On July 08 2013 04:04 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:08 johnnywup wrote:
These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever:

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript town
Gumshoe town
Not sure on everyone else yet
Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon


On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.

Nobody listen to this.

This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash.

No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town.
Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe.
You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu

Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game.

You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus.

I'd be down a for a rayn lynch.

Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here.

Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup.

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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.

This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat.


On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 10:42 johnnywup wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.

Show nested quote +

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.

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On July 07 2013 07:20 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

WoS I don't have a real read on yet. But I'm not happy with how he didn't make a response to my luv tunnel comment. He normally would joke back at that.

Rayn is not acting all towny rayn and acting far more like Hydra 2 just getting in the way.

This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript.





EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is

-quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat."


Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying.



"-quote-
So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.
-quote-
This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript."


Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything.

This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me.


Waveofshadow plays like this as scum. To reference Blazinghand's Venn Diagram: what you're talking about here is orange territory. The distinguishing traits of WoS's play as town have more to do with whether or not he's helpful going forwards rather than whether or not he spends most of D1 joking.


This is a dukenukem themed game with nukes in it. The theme is silly, have several players had fun with it? Yes. Have scum benefited from the joking useless atmosphere/slow start? Most definitely. The joking though should not be used as a means of determining alignment just yet, especially when we have Chez serving as an agent of chaos. (Simply interacting with him bolsters the madness). At the moment day 1 silliness should read null, now though things should get a bit more serious with lynch rounding the corner.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:46 GMT
#528
On July 08 2013 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gumshoe look into maju/chez/originalname.


Maju is a hard lurker, nothing else to say there.

Original is null at the moment.

He engaged in the sililiness at the start but not as much as alota people. He seems to be of the opinion that Chez is want to do what Chez is want to do, and we shouldn't really do much about it, which is iffie.

In regards to Chez, if he keeps this up and Xata(who I consider town somewhat) actually dies then he needs to be lynched because in this setup he may be an active threat to town even if he isnt scum. That said I would wager more on Chez being third party, most likely not town though. Otherwise hes working against his wincon by all appearances / :. I would still like to try and communicate with him before he dies though.

Back to original.

Not really, everyone is still freaking out instead of actually trying to get on topic.

As such lets return to some very good points:

Fake nukes are stupid mmmmmmmmmmmmmmk
Nuking people day 1 is stupid mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk
Meapak's is repeating facts because they are generally important mmmmmmmmmmmmmk


I dont like this sort of thing where a player preemtively points out whats scummy behaviur. A) Why give scum a road map around your radar? We want to catch scum, not warn them, dont say what stuff you generally find scummy point out whose doing it and why else they're scummy.

This post seems to be more about=

"hey look at me and how townie my values are" than about catching scum.
Null leaning scum.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:53 GMT
#530
On July 08 2013 04:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch.

Given how easy the bandwagon was, I would look at the people defending him for absolutely zero reason if he flips town. Scum tryin' to get dat town cred.

On the same token we can also analyze the people that are saying one thing and lynching john on the other once the flip occurs.

If he flips scum, then there's not much to say. Rayn is probably town if he flips scum for being just about the only person to defend him.

This post is god awful and makes me want to lynch Vayne just for it. More on this later.


Geript are you technically sheeping me since I randomly put my vote on Vayne at the start?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 19:56 GMT
#533
On July 08 2013 04:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, I've got plenty of time now and I've finally got my computer back. I have skimmed through the thread and I'd just like to point out a few things before posting my mega post(tm).

Two main people have been targeted as lynches today.
Johnnywup and rayn both look like easy scum redirects. In other words, relatively weak town members that would be easy to lynch if push comes to shove. I think you should be watching any and all players on those respective wagons and see how their votes change over the course of the thread.

I'm having trouble understanding this Chezinu guy. Apparently, he's a troll? I'm unfamiliar with his persona so could anyone explain? I've still gotta read his claim in detail so I'll post more about that later.


Not a troll, THE troll(pretty much the last person you'd want to give nukes to).
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 20:02 GMT
#536
ebwop nevermind.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 20:03 GMT
#537
On July 08 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How do you see me as lynch target FirmTofu? I have zero votes on me.

Also geript is totally town.


He adressed this.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#653
sigh. Just lost my other game T_T
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#654
Nobody listen to me ever. I am bads.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 08 2013 22:48 GMT
#1411
On July 09 2013 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
Btw GUMSHOE why did you ninjavote ON despite never even suspecting him? Like, what? Your last post in the thread is like ages ago.


I just voted with who I thought was town. I havent actually caught up on the thread though seeing as I'm a litte hung up on losing Basterd and not getting any nukes. Though I'm hoping not to massively disappoint you again in the exact same matter XD I'll provide as many reads as I can before the night deadline.

Mean time same deal as before, any direct requests?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#2651
Hey, so I left the game for like... a week. What'd I miss aside from 100 pages of filter that I've yet to read. All I can say atm is that I'm in inclined to believe Chezinu is non scum (is that even still relevant?) considering his interactions with Dandel.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 12 2013 20:09 GMT
#2652
Also for those who consider my absence neutral, they're wrong, the last time I went afk for ever it was when I rolled scum and crumbled beneath the pressures of subterfuge. So technicaly the meta says I stand by best Korea / : sadly the meta is wrong. So same stick as before, I'll go read much as I can, meantime I'd appreciate if any one has something specific they'd like me to look at.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#2654
On July 13 2013 05:13 johnnywup wrote:
Wow man gumshoe, you're really defending yourself well. I think I might have to take you off my scumreads /s

The issue at hand is there's nothing to defend, although in most cases this degree of inactivity is neutral, in my case it is not. There is precedent that I cannot deny.

Anyone you'd like me to take a gander at?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 12 2013 20:38 GMT
#2658
On July 13 2013 05:32 Koshi wrote:
Stutters and gumshoe. Would you two want to look at the last post I made? Nobody wants to interact with me about it. Is this a bad town play in your eyes or a scum play?
Especially that post that geript made about "superpowers" and that there was only 1 out of 5 possibilities that the nuke landing would be good for town.

I'd love too ( : just gonna finish the last 30 pages

On an unrelated note, I believe the power to become irradiated is a townie ability, because I don't see why scum would need that power in any way along side theyre existing kp. Does that mean scum have a monopoly on radiation nukes? I don't think so, rather I imagine a few scum players and a few town players posses them. Also can we send an irradiated nuke at whoever claimed irradiated townie? Have we already?
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