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Oh fuck. I r drunked. I've been drunked 4 tha past 9 days. I haz problem. Thankee 4 da understanding. I totes promise I r town and will b not drunked at sum point in da future so I can bees useful. Plz don't lynch/nukee me; I totes rad town. Kthnxbai
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Really guys... Does no one want to analyze this game....
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@Whoops, ace wasn't killed because he's either scum or they knew the nuke was fake. I'm leaning the latter which makes Stutters scum. Plus, as town "Toy factory" during D1 after the radiation nuke reveal stuff (after Xat's claim) he would be at 0 cost to claim and confirm. Instead he's convinced DI was scum for no reasoning and continues to be more worthless than a pine cone after you take a shit.
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Random CA ninja unvote w/o comment...
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It's simple. We lynch him with fire like I've been saying already. We don't trust Stutters which means the nukes a fake, or we don't trust Ace which means he has ulterior reasons for launching the nuke. Either way Maju needs to die and the surest way of that is lynching him.
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A few things to note before I head off for D&D.
Maju has "magically" forgotten why he was suspected by many in the first place: who, how and why he chose to shoot his nuke. Xat's points on him are just gravy. I think the thing that proves Maju as scum for me is how he's approached why people think he's scum. He's taken Xat's point which are really the bread and butter for why he's a suspect but things that aren't at the core of the issue for why we're lynching him and only addresses though. Additionally, his post makes huge illogical leaps but not in any sort of illogical manner. When town loses their shit, they lose their shit baby and the bathwater. When scum "lose their shit" they have a distinct purpose in losing their shit so they don't lose they keep the bathwater while trying to toss the baby so that they look nuts. This is that exceptionally odd sense of the in between.
A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel.
About the nuke... I wanted to wait as long as I felt I could to address this but look at how Ace is handling the nuke he shot off. It seems very telling to me that Ace hasn't tried to move the lynch either. I don't think it's anything, but Ace who shot the nuke isn't even treating it as being real. Which I thought funny.
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A few points that people are forgetting:
1. There's no confirmation that the silent nuker has to nuke during the day. Nukes can be fired at night so he may be waiting until then.
2. @WoS I wasn't against Ace nuking Maju during the night phase. As a matter of fact I wanted it. I'm opposed to nuking him during the day.
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On July 13 2013 13:47 geript wrote:KNOWLEDGE NUKE INCOMINGOk so a few things to start off with. I've been exploring the idea of Dandel being bussed. The anti-DI lynch came primarily from Rayn and myself and Xat got on board as well and we were looking for an alternative lynch here. The basic responses that were given were: Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote:DI is more of a known quantity and therefore his uselessness/lurkiness/early posts can be compared to his behavior in other games or what people expect out of him.
Afaik, abenson and caucasianasian are not in that boat. Also, while I like Dandel Ion, caucasianasian is a much better name and is fun to write. If he dies, we are unlikely to type out his name. Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote:If it's on DI, then I think it has the possibility to be a mislynch. My gut read on DI's entrance to the thread was ACTUALLY that it was scummy, because it felt like it was unnecessary to be active/trolly when the rest of the thread was, and so it was more to be able to say "see, here's an active/trolly start from me before I got down to business, just like you guys saw days ago in PTP."
That has passed since he's not around. Based on that gut read of his entrance into thread, I'm actually not convinced he'd be a mislynch.
If the lynch is on chezinu, I think it's a mislynch. Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
dandel's last scum game consisted of typing lawl and u mad? and fake claiming SK until he was finally lynched
so yea Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 04:01 Stutters695 wrote:On July 09 2013 03:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
lool nice post of the thread stutters. who you gonna vote for boy DI. He's scum I post these for one very simple reason. There's a huge switch after the ON case by Austin here. The specific thing that I want to draw your attention to on austin is the huge switch in attitude in a short manner of time. I don't know about you guys, but there are a few things that stick out as being exceptionally suspicious to me here. First, it takes me a while to put a case together. Like a long time to type and cross reference and make sure things make sense etc. and that case wasn't exactly short, so for austin to pump that out he must not have put a load of time into it. I find this important because it tells me that he has vested interest in shifting the lynch off of DI and onto someone else. Second, Austin was thinking that DI was actually scummy yet he pulls ON out of his hat to say "Hey I want to lynch this guy right now instead." But if DI is scummy, why doesn't he do anything at all to try and push the DI as scum read instead of give tacit "scummy bro is scummy" comments. Third, austin had previous thought negatively of ON + Show Spoiler +On July 08 2013 06:30 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 06:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
xata, austin, and geript shut up for a second and tell me why we shouldn't lynch dandel There isn't a reason not to lynch him eventually, based on his play so far. I think that his filter is full of junk. His playful posts in the beginning add nothing. He's very, very ... accusatory/bristly, when I don't see a need for him to be. That's a characteristic to compare to past games. Early post towards you, later post towards johnny, just really being antagonistic when there's no reason. Beyond those, he's chimed in on a couple things but either after others have said the same thing, or with chiming that doesn't actually do anything/go anywhere. He don't look groovy. Yes. Xat fakenuked Chez. but my issue with it isn't that he came up before OR that he hadn't come up before. Rather it's that at no point did he actively actually try to push the ON read on anyone. There's no attempt to actually bounce his ideas off of other people and try to get them to see what he's seeing. This tells me that austin doesn't want in any way to take any sort of leadership or responsibility for a lynch.TLDR edition You can add this to Xat's points, but Austin should be the next lynch for sure (after Maju) or be nuked. I have to get up in 2-3 hours to go work a race then work. I'll be back for a bit tomorrow and later on to post the others. FWIW I'm far less sure that Koshi is scum and I think I may have been overreacting after reading his filter.
Have people forgotten about this? Or the reasons why Rayn thought Austin was scum? Or the reasons why Xat thought that Austin was scum? Is there a reason why the second lynch option isn't Austin?
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Switching to Austin since people don't want to lynch Maju because people want to trust that the nuke will go boom.
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On July 15 2013 05:57 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:49 geript wrote:On July 13 2013 13:47 geript wrote:KNOWLEDGE NUKE INCOMINGOk so a few things to start off with. I've been exploring the idea of Dandel being bussed. The anti-DI lynch came primarily from Rayn and myself and Xat got on board as well and we were looking for an alternative lynch here. The basic responses that were given were: On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote:DI is more of a known quantity and therefore his uselessness/lurkiness/early posts can be compared to his behavior in other games or what people expect out of him.
Afaik, abenson and caucasianasian are not in that boat. Also, while I like Dandel Ion, caucasianasian is a much better name and is fun to write. If he dies, we are unlikely to type out his name. On July 09 2013 03:44 Stutters695 wrote:
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post of the thread On July 09 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote:If it's on DI, then I think it has the possibility to be a mislynch. My gut read on DI's entrance to the thread was ACTUALLY that it was scummy, because it felt like it was unnecessary to be active/trolly when the rest of the thread was, and so it was more to be able to say "see, here's an active/trolly start from me before I got down to business, just like you guys saw days ago in PTP."
That has passed since he's not around. Based on that gut read of his entrance into thread, I'm actually not convinced he'd be a mislynch.
If the lynch is on chezinu, I think it's a mislynch. On July 09 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
dandel's last scum game consisted of typing lawl and u mad? and fake claiming SK until he was finally lynched
so yea On July 09 2013 04:01 Stutters695 wrote:On July 09 2013 03:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
lool nice post of the thread stutters. who you gonna vote for boy DI. He's scum I post these for one very simple reason. There's a huge switch after the ON case by Austin here. The specific thing that I want to draw your attention to on austin is the huge switch in attitude in a short manner of time. On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote: First DI Accusation On July 09 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote:Second DI Accusation On July 09 2013 04:10 austinmcc wrote:ON Case I don't know about you guys, but there are a few things that stick out as being exceptionally suspicious to me here. First, it takes me a while to put a case together. Like a long time to type and cross reference and make sure things make sense etc. and that case wasn't exactly short, so for austin to pump that out he must not have put a load of time into it. I find this important because it tells me that he has vested interest in shifting the lynch off of DI and onto someone else. Second, Austin was thinking that DI was actually scummy yet he pulls ON out of his hat to say "Hey I want to lynch this guy right now instead." But if DI is scummy, why doesn't he do anything at all to try and push the DI as scum read instead of give tacit "scummy bro is scummy" comments. Third, austin had previous thought negatively of ON + Show Spoiler +On July 08 2013 06:30 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 06:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
xata, austin, and geript shut up for a second and tell me why we shouldn't lynch dandel There isn't a reason not to lynch him eventually, based on his play so far. I think that his filter is full of junk. His playful posts in the beginning add nothing. He's very, very ... accusatory/bristly, when I don't see a need for him to be. That's a characteristic to compare to past games. Early post towards you, later post towards johnny, just really being antagonistic when there's no reason. Beyond those, he's chimed in on a couple things but either after others have said the same thing, or with chiming that doesn't actually do anything/go anywhere. He don't look groovy. Yes. Xat fakenuked Chez. but my issue with it isn't that he came up before OR that he hadn't come up before. Rather it's that at no point did he actively actually try to push the ON read on anyone. There's no attempt to actually bounce his ideas off of other people and try to get them to see what he's seeing. This tells me that austin doesn't want in any way to take any sort of leadership or responsibility for a lynch.TLDR edition You can add this to Xat's points, but Austin should be the next lynch for sure (after Maju) or be nuked. I have to get up in 2-3 hours to go work a race then work. I'll be back for a bit tomorrow and later on to post the others. FWIW I'm far less sure that Koshi is scum and I think I may have been overreacting after reading his filter. Have people forgotten about this? Or the reasons why Rayn thought Austin was scum? Or the reasons why Xat thought that Austin was scum? Is there a reason why the second lynch option isn't Austin? (Just gonna point out that, SO FAR, rayn is 0-1 on his scumreads from his claim being scum) (And that xat is also wrong)
Or just don't address it and ignore it. That makes you totally towny... /sarcasm
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2. Ghost_403 replaced by Koshi
3. Oatsmaster
6. Abenson replaced by [UoN]Sentinel
8. Ace I want to call him town
21. WaveofShadow
4. Stutters695 -- 3p???
5. Z-BosoN
10. Johnnywup
11. Onegu
13. VayneAuthority
14. Strongandbig
15. Gumshoe
20. Alakasam
26. Chezinu
27. austinmcc
19. CaucasianAsian
9. MajuGarzett
This is where I'm at right now.
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On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once.
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Also, @Stutters... Don't you think Austin is scum... Why are you voting with him on SnB?
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@WoS do you think Maju is Scum
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TBH I'm really just tempted to vote solely based on filter length. Really tempted by CA.
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@Austin. My role name is Missile Defense System
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Man this is so frustrating. The last game I played had like 80% lurkers and this one despite being a theme game and generally awesome still has a fuckton of lurkers.
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On July 15 2013 06:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:26 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:25 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this. 3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation? We don't even know what the radiation DOES, do we? Wasn't it Fantastic 4 that had the radiation enabled powers? ![[image loading]](http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/biggums.png) It's fucking radiation. You think its gonna turn us into X-men?
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