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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#2396
@Ace... who you feeling right now. I'm historically bad at finding the right scummy lurker.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:08 GMT
#2406
On July 12 2013 06:04 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:41 geript wrote:
ok so Xat, let's talk about maju vs jampi.

Maju:
1. Both town/scum reasoning for launching nuke neutral
2. Both town/scum reasoning for nuke target (seeking approval for if it will land vs confirming for a solid target) neutral
3. Original points for voting Onegu are super weak scummy
4. Continues to attack Onegu for thinking Chezinu scum based on reasoning that quite possibly makes Chezinue scum -- makes no sense as town scummy
5. continued tunneling without any sort of progression on the read scummy
6. Out of the nowhere suspicion on Jampi scummy

Xat would you agree with this analysis of his filter?


Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:58 geript wrote:
Jampi:
1. Seems to know that Rayn didn't fire the mystery nuke (scum) but provides ok reasoning for it neutral
2. Brings up valid points on the Maju nuke after his "death nuke" towny
3. Most of his filter is about the rayn-nuke situation scummy


I don't think you can break it down like this, at least if you're doing the above to say "Vote maju!"

maju votes onegu for weak reasons in your points above. What about jampi's D1 votes? Are they unimportant? Do you know where they went and why? Is tunneling more or less scummy than just not doing ANYTHING about scumreads?

Jampi's votes were Chezinu and NG. I don't hate either of those votes at all. I just don't think that there's clear reasoning on either side for that other than perhaps the fact that he thinks Maju is scummy and doesn't seem to vote him at all. But tehre's lots of people I've thought are scummy and haven't voted for. Tunneling isn't scummy or towny per se, it's moreso in how it's done. Like I tunneled Dandel for shitty reasons all last game because I couldn't find a better "scummy" reasoning on other people. I find this type of tunneling scummy; weak reasons, continued on worse reasons that when you follow the logical process to make X other person scum. Not doing anything about a scumread is just as likely to be lurky town as lurky scum imo.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:10 GMT
#2411
On July 12 2013 06:03 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:41 geript wrote:
ok so Xat, let's talk about maju vs jampi.

Maju:
1. Both town/scum reasoning for launching nuke neutral
2. Both town/scum reasoning for nuke target (seeking approval for if it will land vs confirming for a solid target) neutral
3. Original points for voting Onegu are super weak scummy
4. Continues to attack Onegu for thinking Chezinu scum based on reasoning that quite possibly makes Chezinue scum -- makes no sense as town scummy
5. continued tunneling without any sort of progression on the read scummy
6. Out of the nowhere suspicion on Jampi scummy

Xat would you agree with this analysis of his filter?


2. Not sure what you mean here (?)
3. True, but I can't say that my original points against johnnywup were good either (pretty null IMO, slightly scummy at most)
4. I agree his stance on Onegu/Chezinu seems weird - first votes Onegu for pressure voting Chezinu, then starts saying that Chezinu hasn't yet given real answers (weird, maybe scummy)
5. Yeah can't say that he feels like figuring new stuff out this game (scummy)
6. Actually he never said he suspected jampidampi, he just obeyed what people (FT, me etc.) said - where did you get that he suddenly suspected jampidampi? (?)

@6 You don't fire a nuke at someone who you think is town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#2416
Is it bad that I really just want to flip a coin here? Yes. But Imma stick w/ my reads on this. I think this is the right call. If not... sue me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#2424
On July 12 2013 06:25 Xatalos wrote:
If we end up lynching MajuGarzett and he flips town, I'm going to rage so hard at geript.

What happens if we end up flipping Jampi and he's scum? Would you want to risk it with the claim?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#2430
On July 12 2013 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
scumreads already mentioned, Xatalos, geript, Ace, Onegu and CaucasianAsian (weak read) are town. haven't have time to check austin, can't make sense from johnny, vayne or chezinu, rest pretty much null

Why the town reads on Onegu and CA?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:33 GMT
#2437
jah. down w/ lynching jampi. BTW Vayne's point is well taken. The filters are quite different. Not a major worthwhile point but an acceptable one.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:34 GMT
#2439
On July 12 2013 06:33 johnnywup wrote:
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On July 12 2013 06:31 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 12 2013 06:30 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2013 06:29 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 12 2013 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Actually I just went back to I swear this is mini mafia and cross analyzed jampi there where he got mislynched day 1 and his play here is very different. I am fairly convinced he is scum now.

When he flipped town there he actually gave reasons for his scum/town reads and contributed to the thread before he died, here he is a lot angrier/slinging shit. He only came back to the thread once he realized he was saved by geript.

##unvote

##vote: Jampi

Holy shit what? I did not expect this out of you.

He agreed with you! You must now become best friends.

Yeah... I just moved him from scummy to null read. What is happening...

I mean, he could just be trying to gain town cred.

Don't care if he's scum trying to bus to get cred on d2, then I'll take the boon in the manner it was given.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:36 GMT
#2441
On July 12 2013 06:34 jampidampi wrote:
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On July 12 2013 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Actually I just went back to I swear this is mini mafia and cross analyzed jampi there where he got mislynched day 1 and his play here is very different. I am fairly convinced he is scum now.

When he flipped town there he actually gave reasons for his scum/town reads and contributed to the thread before he died, here he is a lot angrier/slinging shit. He only came back to the thread once he realized he was saved by geript.

##unvote

##vote: Jampi

Says the one who claims that his meta is different every single game.

After this post, I feel very good about lynching you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:52 GMT
#2466
On July 12 2013 06:49 jampidampi wrote:
Read my filter in I Swear Mafia. Compare it my filter in this game. If you think a town Vayne, who is know to be highly analytical, could missrepresent the differences like this, then please tell me how. There is no way he came to those conclusions. Vayne is scum.

So the last few minutes of your life you spend time OMGUSing instead of actually trying to make good bullet points on who to lynch and why.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:57 GMT
#2477
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 21:58 GMT
#2482
On July 12 2013 06:58 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
On July 12 2013 06:55 Ace wrote:
yes, and this recent activity has me suspicious. However, this same thing happened during the DI/ON lynch and DI escaped. So I'll switch. Besides, I always have the option to nuke MG.

##unvote


If jampidampi flips town, please do nuke MajuGarzett (at night preferably). If jampidampi flips scum, nuke someone else.

But don't nuke someone else without consulting us first. (looks at geript)

Hey, I haven't nuked anyone without consulting anyone...
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 22:03 GMT
#2490
welll fuck
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 22:07 GMT
#2499
I guess we get to see who Ace targets too. That'll be interesting I guess.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 11 2013 23:51 GMT
#2547
man this game is so frustrating for me right now
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 00:14 GMT
#2549
On July 12 2013 08:58 Z-BosoN wrote:
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On July 12 2013 08:51 geript wrote:
man this game is so frustrating for me right now


Help me out. View SnB/austin interaction and see what you think of it

Did you have a specific interaction you were looking at?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 00:20 GMT
#2550
Maju, Ace, FT, Austin. Not sure on if any others.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 00:21 GMT
#2551
I read the shit again tonight but honestly right now I'm just fed up with this.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 16:59 GMT
#2621
A few things to note:
1. Maju should be lynched not nuked -- this prevents anyone from defending him and a necessary late vote scramble.
2. Why Ace didn't launch that shit immediately after the night post is beyond me. He could be lying about a nuke, he could be scum, anything is possible
3. I think Rayn was right on track. This would be like the second time he's nailed a bunch of scum early.
4. I'll post more tonight but will have limited access later this weekend.
5. The people who are calling me scum are hilarious. Koshi specifically looks worse for this because they're finding superficial reasons to think me scum and not following the points to their conclusion.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 18:05 GMT
#2625
@Xat. You agree that many should be lynched and not nuked?
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