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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 04 2013 00:23 GMT
#6
gonna have to /in this before I forget, finally a normal game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 05:56 GMT
#117
not running for mayor

##vote mayor: Sylencia
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 06:01 GMT
#122
On June 09 2013 14:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
not running for mayor

##vote mayor: Sylencia

why?


to generate discussion, I want to see who the stragglers vote for
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 06:03 GMT
#124
On June 09 2013 15:02 ShiaoPi wrote:
So the generate discussion...
Why not vote for yourself then? Why sylencia especially?


he is your competition, I have no interest in running for mayor
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 06:10 GMT
#126
On June 09 2013 15:05 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:02 ShiaoPi wrote:
So the generate discussion...
Why not vote for yourself then? Why sylencia especially?


he is your competition, I have no interest in running for mayor


I doubt that he is really running at all. Has not voted himself even. Why sylencia over for example axle who voted himself?


Don't really trust axle
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 06:17 GMT
#128
On June 09 2013 15:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
fair enough, but why sylencia in comparison to the others active in the thread?


he expressed interest in becoming mayor so I voted for him. Starting an alternative bandwagon to see what happens. If you have a better idea to get reads, im all ears.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 06:25 GMT
#130
On June 09 2013 15:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
I am intersted in getting sylencia back here right now.
What is your stance on my campaign?


Null until everyone votes, if there's just one mayor and everyone votes him we gain zero info, thats what scum wants.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#157
On June 09 2013 17:16 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Vayne

Voting for the sake of opposition/discussion-starting is OK, however not at the expense of ignoring all the other discussion happening in the thread.

Like Shaio's mayoral campaign is a perfectly good topic for discussion. I don't understand why you think an unjustified vote for a person who's not even running a serious campaign would somehow be a better way to start discussion or even pro-town for that matter.


I didn't really see any discussion besides you spamming YO U TOWN BRO YA U T00 and shaio giving out cookies. If that's discussion then by all means, continue. I don't even think there is enough people to form a scum team after all the free passes you gave out.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#160
On June 09 2013 18:57 AxleGreaser wrote:
Vayne, I have tried twice to write this post the first one asked the wrong question.
it may still ask not what i mean. meh.
It is a difficult little thought please read carefully and discuss it with me.
After one or two iterations we may reach common ground.

Gross generalisations about your meta + Show Spoiler +

I have, when you played them, been a spectator of some of your previous games. (I think mainly les)
At the time I dreaded playing with you and having to try and read you due to choices you make
that for me potentially put all your play in the orange bucket.
This happens when you assert that you get _all_ your reads from flip analysis of voting and nks.
You seemingly in the other games I read use that claim about yourself to justify some level 'no comment' on things in thread.
TLDR; its all orange to me.

Those are broad sweeping generalisations, and they are I think about your town and scum play. (orange bit)
if after the discussion they are wrong sorry?

Concrete observations in this game.
In this post you say you do things to promote discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 09 2013 15:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
not running for mayor

##vote mayor: Sylencia

why?


to generate discussion, I want to see who the stragglers vote for

so you poked them with a stick. {good/agree/yes/tick}.

Conversely when you are poked (asked a question)
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On June 09 2013 15:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
I am intersted in getting sylencia back here right now.
What is your stance on my campaign?


Null until everyone votes, if there's just one mayor and everyone votes him we gain zero info, thats what scum wants.

Do you engage in conversation. Does the discussion proceed or does your answer tend to shut it down?

Your discussion promotion method (vote) is something that is easy for scum to emulate. Answering questions when being prodded is harder, please try to to do the harder things too.

Here is a new question.
Independent of how the votes pan out, because sometimes at the end of the day there is one no brainer candidate.
If we discussed the mayoral campaign, and found out who was shy about commenting during the day before the result was clear, would that help find scum or would it as you seem to suggest yield 'zero information'.

Do note I agree wholeheartedly with the general sentiment, (and I am pretty sure my previous games will support the notion that,) I oppose days with one wagon, but primarily because there is no/limited discussion.

lastly even if you need the votes (or you get zero information), I think a number of other people need significant interactive discussion and the vote, so please comment more fully on the question of the mayoral election.


Half the game still hasn't spoken yet and people are already jumping down my throat. If you want scum it's the person that joins in second, not first AKA oats. He's probably scum.

I would say anyone blindly just following a shaio compaign has no interest in this game or is blind to the fact that scum could very well be getting one of their own into office.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#162
On June 09 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I mean, this is the reason Vayne's vote
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
not running for mayor

##vote mayor: Sylencia

why?


to generate discussion, I want to see who the stragglers vote for


Yeah thats a vote that isnt on Shiao for the sake of it. So he doesnt appear too sheepy or compliant of whatever. Not cause he thinks you are a better mayor. Bad.


You know who makes pre-conceived notions about what scum does and then tries to spin it? scum. You can't read me so don't bother.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#163
On June 10 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne why am I and Shiao scum?

Dont be paranoid. Have reasons related to our posting.


Incorrect, you are my first scumread, shaio is merely hypothetical to wake people up. Never played with him before so null-read
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:38 GMT
#166
On June 10 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 09 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I mean, this is the reason Vayne's vote
On June 09 2013 15:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
not running for mayor

##vote mayor: Sylencia

why?


to generate discussion, I want to see who the stragglers vote for


Yeah thats a vote that isnt on Shiao for the sake of it. So he doesnt appear too sheepy or compliant of whatever. Not cause he thinks you are a better mayor. Bad.


You know who makes pre-conceived notions about what scum does and then tries to spin it? scum. You can't read me so don't bother.

So why did you vote for syl if you dont think that shiao is scum?
What makes Syl more town than shiao? What makes Syl more town than you?


What makes me scum.


already explained why I voted for syl zz. It's to create discussion as this has caused yet just people suspicious of me for a very dumbass reason, so now I have to sort out if they are bad town or BW'ing scum. I'm leaning BW'ing scum with you.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#167
On June 10 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne why am I and Shiao scum?

Dont be paranoid. Have reasons related to our posting.


Incorrect, you are my first scumread, shaio is merely hypothetical to wake people up. Never played with him before so null-read

he posted a decent amount so far. What does playing with you before have to do with reading him?


How can I read him before he has voted for anything or anyone has died? All he's done is campaign for mayor uncontested it's pretty hard to get anything out of that
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:45 GMT
#170
On June 10 2013 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Exactly Vayne.
You voted for syl JUST to rock the boat. No other reason.
Because it makes you look like you are not a sheep.

My points stand, you care about appearances more than actually voting for a town mayor/lynching scum today.

Why am I scum? Why does me calling you scum over the Syl vote make me scum? What else makes me scum.

Why dont you want to make a read on Shiao? What does not playing with him before mean you cant read him?


seriously you are just ignoring how I play and making an excuse to lynch me, I see no other motive in your play. Its obvious as hell, then when I flip green you just fly under the radar fitting in with the crowd. You aren't gonna pull a fast one on me so give it up.

I don't want to make a read on shaio because I have no read on him l0l
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:46 GMT
#171
On June 10 2013 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne why am I and Shiao scum?

Dont be paranoid. Have reasons related to our posting.


Incorrect, you are my first scumread, shaio is merely hypothetical to wake people up. Never played with him before so null-read

he posted a decent amount so far. What does playing with you before have to do with reading him?


How can I read him before he has voted for anything or anyone has died? All he's done is campaign for mayor uncontested it's pretty hard to get anything out of that

whoop de do.
Ok.

So do you think its more likely for scum or for town to do the mayoral campaign he is currently running?


given the setup, town. Won't be disclosing why so don't ask
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 16:52 GMT
#174
On June 10 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:45 VayneAuthority wrote:

seriously you are just ignoring how I play and making an excuse to lynch me, I see no other motive in your play. Its obvious as hell, then when I flip green you just fly under the radar fitting in with the crowd. You aren't gonna pull a fast one on me so give it up.

How do you play? How am I misrepresenting your posts? Point it out.
Dont just act all wounded with no proof whatsoever.


When do I ever follow the cookie cutter? enough said.

That you think I'm just trying to stick out as scum is

1.asinine
2. misrepresentation
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 21:29 GMT
#199
remember that this is semi-closed setup so we dont even know if theres a medic or anything. Getting voted as mayor is pretty much a death sentence and I think BH sees it the same way I do. Don't want a fucking target on my back to start the game.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 21:46 GMT
#202
Works for me.

##unvote mayor

##vote mayor: Hapahauli
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 22:06 GMT
#205
Oats/jampi

Is there 2 or 3 scum?

If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine

Guess once he gets replaced I can get a better read on whoever fills in for him
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:02 GMT
#210
On June 10 2013 07:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Oats/jampi


Can you explain your reads a bit? I think I heard a decent amount from you on Oats, but I'm more curious about Jampi.

Show nested quote +
Is there 2 or 3 scum?

I'd assume either 3 scum or 2 powerful scum + an SK.

Show nested quote +
If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine


DarthPunk also hasn't posted.

Also, what do you think about Sylencia?


yea I forgot about DP so ignore that then

Sylencia no read yet

Jampi is playing a bit lurky and reactive, when I played with him in my newbie game he was much more proactive and died night 1 as a result. Not seeing any of his analysis here so ill give him some more time but if he doesn't do anything leaning scum.

I always think oats is scum so far except in Carnival Cruise game, so I don't even know if it's a good read but he's generally hard to read since he just spams the ever living shit out of people and it has no alignment indications
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