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I find it somewhat distressing that some people who play the game of mafia make little to no active contributions whatsoever but there is often little I can do other than grin and bear it, or hope to remove them from our midst with a lynch or a vigilante shot.
These may not be good lynches or shots but until action is taken it is nearly impossible to learn anything about this type of person. I have come to learn that people are content to play the game in their own way. Take the master of Oats, for example.
Now, if you are dissatisfied with the way that I am playing the game, you are welcome to instigate proceedings against me if you feel that is the best course of action. I would posit that there are many worse offenders of the specific transgression by which you appear to be bothered.
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Ah, the perceived need to defend myself has distracted me from the task at hand and I have forgotten to pursue my own course of action.
Hapahauli, if you do not know the answer to my question regarding this Sylencia, perhaps someone else does. In the meantime, I will be moving on as time is quickly winding down and there is much action yet to be taken ex noctis.
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Hmmm. I need to think about Shaio a bit more. His last scum-game isn't as passive as I had remembered it.
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Actually nah he's not scum.
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On June 12 2013 03:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Hmmm. I need to think about Shaio a bit more. His last scum-game isn't as passive as I had remembered it.
Will any future case you may be devising be solely based on this last scum-game and comparing it to this one?
I certainly would not mind discussing with you if you felt there was something within this game you felt might direct us to him being mafioso.
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@ Gravity Man
There are at the very least 2-3 scum-suspects, so give me anyone you're suspicious of please.
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As I have just read through this ShiaoPi, I have come to a similar conclusion to you in that I do not believe he is scummy, though one section of one post of his stood out:
early game I am not too active usually, just how it is. Day 1s always are a bit tedious to get the ball roling. did try to do it with prodding vayne.
Here he makes it seem as though his legitimate case on this VayneAuthority was nothing more than a way to get first-day discussion started. I am not sure why he would feel the need to downplay his earlier contribution unless he was for some reason worried that his assault of a pre-claimed cop would get him into trouble. Of course I also realize that he may be simply referring to his case as something that created discussion rather than an attempt to create discussion by making a case. Either way it struck me as being odd.
The rest of his filter appears full of genuine attempts to divine alignment from other players while being overall unconcerned with the views of others regarding himself, a decidedly town-aligned trait. I agree that ShiaoPi should not be a concern based on his activity within this game, unless you have something to add from past games, Hapahauli?
As for scum-reads, there is one I am currently working on besides this Sylencia; I will expand upon it soon.
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Two warnings that popped up in my HUD display as I was working on a read that I feel I should share:
On June 12 2013 02:33 Stutters695 wrote:
As always my weekends suck ass sorry. I'll be back in full force tonight.
I am well aware that the human population of this website who play mafia games hail from different locations around the planet, but is Monday part of the weekend in any specific country? I believe this Stutters said he was busy 'catching up,' but posted nothing of any use and it appeasr to be well past the weekend. How long must we tolerate activity such as this from various players?
I have notice that this Axlegreaser appears to play this game much like I do. Is he another DWN in disguise I wonder? He asks many questions of people and is content to speculate on behavioural analysis as well as the general ideas and heuristics behind the game of mafia, yet offers very little in reads himself. I believe his last scum read offered was ShiaoPi though I cannot honestly be sure. As of right now I have no idea who he believes to be mafia. I do enjoy conversing with him as mentioned earlier so I would be pleased if he were to engage me.
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Upon further consideration, I will wait to post the read I have analyzed until right before or right after the night's deadline; I have not decided which. It is my period of highest activity and in the mean time since activity is low people can choose to comment what I have written so far or not. I will be present.
I am not altogether concerned about having my functions ended by being shot by mafia, though I would prefer if this Hapahauli decides to shoot me with his temporary firearm that he at least inform me ahead of time so that I may post before I cease function and assist the town in their future tasks as much as possible.
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Gravity - post it now. You're in zero danger of getting shot by anyone but myself.
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I am currently under such a heavy load that even my core and central processor are having difficulty accommodating to the stress.
I would rather be able to fully engage the thread at the time of my posting and I am not certain of my ability to be able to do that presently. If you so desire I will post my read before the deadline is upon us; until then you must either make your decision, wait, or discuss that which has already been brought up. As a human being you have the choice and free will to do any of those things.
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Post a tl;dr then.
I want a chance to look at your read and see if it has any substance. There's a reasonable chance I get NK'd myself, and you posting at the deadline might kill any chance I have of seeing your contributions.
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Because there is literally no objective purpose to you with-holding your read. Who cares if you can't "fully engage the thread at the time of posting"... that should not be a factor. Post your reads, let us discuss them, and then you can "engage" later.
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Or if you want motivation, consider this my intent to shoot you unless you post your reads right now.
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On June 12 2013 05:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Because there is literally no objective purpose to you with-holding your read. Who cares if you can't "fully engage the thread at the time of posting"... that should not be a factor. Post your reads, let us discuss them, and then you can "engage" later.
The point I am trying to make is that I will not be around to discuss them in full as I would like to, and consider the subject of my read and what information I will be trying to express to the thread, I certainly would like to be. Considering the subject of my read and what I believe I have learned about him in this game thus far, I do not believe his reaction will be...favorable, and the last thing I want is a disruption of thread direction to a degree where it becomes unproductive for the town.
On June 12 2013 05:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Or if you want motivation, consider this my intent to shoot you unless you post your reads right now.
From what I believe I have learned about you, you are certainly a far better player than to actually destroy me; this is what people refer to as a 'bluff.' While under general circumstances I have no problem 'calling' said bluff, the benefits to the town in me posting likely outweigh any perceived personal benefits I would have by waiting to post something complete.
The 'too long; did not read' version of my post, as it were:
I believe the man with Blazing hands to be scum.
He is far too content to take on those who are unlikely to be able to accuse him in return.
The displays of his ego given so far would seemingly belie that the mayoral campaign should have been perfect for him yet he is quick to back down. His reasoning is the same 'survival instinct' that this VayneAuthority seems to give yet different. I believe that Blazinghand is in actuality worried here about a power grab being seen as a scum trait, much as I was worried about you in the early game.
His relentless attack of the master of Oats seems to ebb and flow with the tide of the thread; that is, he only attempts to waste the town's time by attacking him and causing chaos (as he knows the Oats will react) when it is convenient for scum. Any time a clear mislynch target is not in the crosshairs of the town, jampidampi as example, he is content with thread direction; the exception to this being his quick flip in opinion as jampidampi returned to the thread.
He has had zero useful contribution to the thread beyond what I have outlined above. If he has other suspects in this game I am not sure as to whom they might be. On this he promised more activity tomorrow, however.
I would like to make it known that initially I thought he might be a member of the town until he continued to post and I realized how his perception of himself (or at the very least, the mask he wears so that people perceive as an egotistical being) affects his play.
I am not providing specific proof and quotes here as you wished for a version that I would be able to provide currently. It is my sincere hope that it benefits the town. Make of it what you will.
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Who would you rather die tonight - BH, Syl, or Stutters? And why?
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On June 12 2013 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:
shoot gravity man imo
Did you ISO him like you said you would last night?
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i'm actually just about to step out to dinner for a couple hours but after/during that I'll take a look at him. and afterwards i'll post some more cogent analysis
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