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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 16:50 GMT
#919
And that post helps us how?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 17:13 GMT
#925
I helped this many.

Since you claimed cop d1, you've:
1. tried to lynch BH for a "scumslip"
2. sheeped Hapa onto Jampi
3. said you wanted to shoot Syl/Myself with no reasoning
4. changed to Gravity, BH, or GK because "one of the afks had to be scum" despite that I was far more inactive than GM or BH.
5. obviously lied about a cop check, said I failed your test yet haven't explained why
6. Tried to get focus away from BH/Oats/GM despite GM and BH being among your recent people you would kill.


Literally the only reason I'm not trying to lynch you right now is that you claimed cop.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 17:13 GMT
#926
ebwop: that was at Vayne
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 17:15 GMT
#929
On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....

BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.

I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.

BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?

Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.


I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 17:26 GMT
#931
On June 13 2013 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 13 2013 02:15 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....

BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.

I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.

BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?

Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.


I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case?


if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made!


Thanks dawg. Is there a case to be made?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#942
So what did you hope to accomplish by lying about the cop check?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 18:00 GMT
#975
I'm going to let you kids duke it out and do me some good old fashioned filter diving while my e-smoke is charging (these things kick ass btw).
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 22:20 GMT
#985
If goodkarma doesn't come back soon can we please vig him.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 22:36 GMT
#990
On June 13 2013 07:21 AxleGreaser wrote:
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On June 13 2013 07:20 Stutters695 wrote:
If goodkarma doesn't come back soon can we please vig him.


When would you vig him?

Immediately after the lynch.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 22:37 GMT
#991
And it wouldn't be me vigging, it would be Vayne. Have you been reading?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 23:04 GMT
#999
I was thinking at the hallway point of the day but given how little interaction he's had period a flip of either type really wouldn't guarantee any info. It also lets us plan around worst case scenario (3 scum team) and a mislynch today+nk+vig shot would knock us down to six total which would be endgame.

I think we can hit scum today but I'd rather plan around the worst case, especially since GK is so coinflippy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 23:05 GMT
#1000
Ebwop : that was at axlegreaser and halfway, not hallway.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 02:35 GMT
#1049
On June 13 2013 10:46 goodkarma wrote:
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On June 13 2013 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 6 posts GK.....
And I already said why your first post was scummy, and then you come back in the thread and say that all town should have 2 reads bla bla.
Why are you shitting on town and not being useful?

Do you still think BH is scum?
Why is syl scum and not stutters?

GK's attitude towards me is that Im town. Do you think Im town GK?


Your first question is very rhetorical... I'm being very useful. It's you that are asking useless questions... Further it should be clear from my recent posting what I think about BH.

As for stutters, my read on him was slight town. Since that time, he's said some things that are odd to me. I'd say he's more of a null read now. Like I don't understand how he instantly assumes Vayne fakeclaimed at one point when there's been no counterclaims, and how later on he's brought up I should be vigishot immediately for lurking even though it's clear I post in the evening, and the day cycle is only halfway done. These are actions that very well could be scum-motivated, but I need to see him post a bit more to be sure. As I've said, town Stutters has moments where he'll post stuff that's actually insightful. I felt that was what I was seeing with his posting on Shao, but that's really the only point this whole game he's been like that.

I do think you're tAnd the only reason I believe that is looking at your past scumgames I can't visualize you drawing so much attention to yourself as scum, even if your play has been objectively scummy and bad.


Since you're actually here, read my post on Vayne (earlier today). I didn't assume he fake claimed, I assumed it was a possibility and that the only reason he hasn't hung is because of his claim.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 02:43 GMT
#1051
I don't think we should kill Vayne but to say he's definitely town for any reason outside of the claim is wrong.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 04:16 GMT
#1066
On June 13 2013 12:47 goodkarma wrote:
@Stutters:

Your assessment of Vayne isn't entirely unreasonable, but the aggressive fashion in which you did it feels off to me. Also if this was what you were thinking, why didn't it come up much sooner?

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On June 13 2013 08:04 Stutters695 wrote:
I was thinking at the hallway point of the day but given how little interaction he's had period a flip of either type really wouldn't guarantee any info. It also lets us plan around worst case scenario (3 scum team) and a mislynch today+nk+vig shot would knock us down to six total which would be endgame.

I think we can hit scum today but I'd rather plan around the worst case, especially since GK is so coinflippy.


Stutters, would you mind briefly explaining how as town you would propose I get vigie'd if it indeed is true that we'd be at endgame tomorrow in your above scenario? You mention me to be coinflippy, yet were anxious earlier to vig me anyway... This doesn't make much sense to me if indeed the situation is as dire as you describe it.

Finally, Shao was your top scumread, but that was quite a while ago. Is he still your top scumread now?

By paragraph

Because before he was mayor there wasn't anything he could do that would objectively hurt. Threatening to vig anyone for any reason except a solid scumread is retarded and incredibly anti-town and worst case could cost us the game if he actually shoots. It's simply I felt his vig threats were causing were significantly more danger to town than the possible derailing of discussion by calling him out on it.

This is why I wanted you to be viged after the flip. If it's town we re-evaluate our options and determine if it's an acceptable risk or abstain. If we hit scum then a vig on you (considering you were borderline worthless to that point ) really wouldn't have hurt us since we had to deal with you at some point.

I'm honestly not sure on him anymore, I need to brood on it some. A big portion of my case was how he handled jampis lynch, but because I was doing it over filters I didn't realize that he had voted minutes to the lynch. I'm still leaning scum on him but I'm not comfortable pushing it without looking into it more after I'm off work.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 04:42 GMT
#1069
Oh and since you brought up the aggression part of it. I've come to realize recently being aggressive gets your point across significantly more, especially when someone is saying something that could possibly end the game.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 16:54 GMT
#1095
Care to explain why I'm scum GM?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 17:01 GMT
#1096
Also what in the hell makes you think Shiao is town?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 13 2013 17:35 GMT
#1108
Trying to wait to see if BH gets back before I vote. Again, a vig shot on me is retarded and I've explained exactly why it is anti-town. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you.

Shiao I'll get to your thing later.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 14 2013 15:25 GMT
#1267
I'm here, Jesus Christ what happened.
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