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Why not =( | ||
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##Vote Mayor: Vayne Authority Getting the claimed cop as mayor is a priority. No chance that's a fake-claim given the timing behind the claim and the seeming lack of urgency. Catching up on the rest. | ||
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I really don't understand your suspicions against me. They seem to be "Hapa is not hypertown, therefore he's scum", which makes very little sense. They kinda remind me of your Palmar suspicions in Red Team's Prize. Anyway, I'll do what I can to address them, but there's no chance I'm getting lynched today, and I'd rather spend my time scumhunting than addressing the suspicions of someone known to be hyper-confirmation biased. | ||
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Furthermore, his strategy of "antagonize all the vets" seems fairly suicidal for scum to do. Hell last time he attacked me as scum, he ended up getting lynched (Duke Nukem Mafia), so that should be pretty fresh in his mind. Jampi is by far the best lynch for today. He's produced fairly little content, and his vote on Vayne is by far the weakest. On June 11 2013 00:41 jampidampi wrote: I can get behind a Vayne lynch. In his two latest posts, he first states that he is not trying to hide anything, but in the second he hides his reasoning even when someone asked for them. Dafug? It might not necessarily mean that he is scum, but do you think you can read him? I know I can't. ##Vote: VayneAuthority I'll be gone, but will back about one hour before the deadline. Carefully read the underlined passage. Jampi is NOT voting Vayne because he thinks Vayne is scum! He's voting Vayne because "it's hard to read him." That's a scumclaim. ##Vote Lynch: Jampidampi | ||
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I don't like how he decided to call Oats a retard for like 3 pages of conversation, and that reads more like provocation than something purposeful. However I do think he's capable of doing stuff like that as town to a degree. I'd like one more day with BH, but jampi has a clearly attributable scum-mentality with his vote on Vayne. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415754¤tpage=17#333 Comments on lynching jampidampi please. ^^ | ||
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Jampi isn't as new of a player as you might believe. He has a history of 4 town-games, one of which is a hydra game with me, which leaves us with 3 to draw from. If there's one theme consistant across his play is that he's a very analytical player. His play (and especially his vote on Vayne) is so out of character with this. In his 1st Newbie game, it doesn't take much of a read in his filter to understand how analysis-heavy his style is. He's very straightforward, asks good questions, and is very useful to town. Consider posts like... On January 04 2013 00:37 jampidampi wrote: My analysis on Mocsta + Show Spoiler + Very active, as he was in Newbie Mini Mafia XXXIII. He's constantly trying to pressure people into posting, going as far as giving them advice on what to post. He was also doing it during XXXIII, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Also, he is the only one who has taken concrete actions (the vote on cDgCorazon) during this whole time. Leaning towards town Spaghetticus + Show Spoiler + If we exclude the the QT question, he plays the way he played in earlier games. First posting a list of lurkers and pressuring them to contribute, then beginning to analyse individual cases. I believe that On January 03 2013 11:42 Spaghetticus wrote: DO NOT LURK. IDGAF WHO PLAYS SCUMMY I WILL BE VOTING THE LURKIEST PLAYER DAY ONE PERIOD. was his way of saying that he hates lurkers. Regarding the QT question: If he was scum, he would have gotten the QT link with his role PM. Would anyone ask something they already know of? Or was it a way to get his scumbuddy to come to the QT? It is all just speculation, but I hope everyone here would have the brains to check out the QT from their PM. Leaning towards town cDgCorazon + Show Spoiler + Appears to be playing diffrently from Newbie XXXIII. He hasn't been as active this time around, and he isn't as aggressive with his scum claims. And I don't think he would be purposefully bringing up his scum game so many times if he actually was a scum. Leaning towards town Please note that the analysis on Spaghetticus was written before his post answearing questions. In one post in his first newbie game on D1, he provided 30x the analysis that he's provided so far this game. And there's more just from the first page of his filter... I'd encourage you to read it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091&user=jampidampi In his 2nd newbie game, take a look at how he makes his first vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=15#289 His 3rd newbie game is more of the same, and is even more analyitical. He nailed 2 of 3 scum on D1 and got shot immediately N1.. .just read the whole filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058&user=jampidampi So the explanation that jampi is a scared newbie rings very hollow to me. I'll admit that there's a very small possibility that he's gone into his first normal game too scared to do anything, but it's far more likely that his lack of contribution and terrible vote on Vayne (for reasons other than Vayne being scum) is because jampi is scum. | ||
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On June 11 2013 04:19 Blazinghand wrote: deduce for me then what does scum oats look like of not like this? Objectively, do you think scum would go and try to attack the town-vet against all possible thread sentiment? Especially if that vet is known for OMGUS'ing the fuck out of people? Well that's what Oats is doing this game. His play is suicidal from a scum-perspective. Attacking town-Hapa when everyone thinks Hapa is town might be most retarded scum-strategy ever. Furthermore, Oats is active and is contributing in his own way. By any objective standard right now, the guy is town. One question for you BH: Who is scummier - Oats or Jampi? You've been dodging the issue, and I want a clear answer. | ||
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Actually, I think it's a better idea if I'm the mayor going forward. While it sounds nice to have a Cop as the mayor, it's likely that your checks won't be reliable going forward. You'll either be roleblocked until the end of time (if there is a roleblocker, and hell they might block your mayoral powers as well in one shot), or mafia will have many ways to fuck with your checks (godfather, framer, etc) What we need going forward is an analyst that can survive several days in the game to catch the remaining scum. And to be quite frank, I think the only person with the appropriate reputation for that right now. The mayoral office probably carries some sort of protection mechanic, and even if it does not, it forces scum to chose between shooting you and me. | ||
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On June 11 2013 05:43 Blazinghand wrote: But yeah in retrospect I should have gone with my second instinct on oats and not voted him. He's the kind of guy who accidentally sends out wrong cop checks and posts links to the host spreadsheet in the thread and so on, so it's possible he's just this bad. His vote-flailing while i've been eating hasn't been particularly townie but I don't really see why scum would do it either. I guess jubjubs are gonna jub. I don't really have anything to add about jampdampi other than that hapa's case on him is reasonable and hapa is the towniest guy here. Like the bolded. What the fuck is the point of the bolded? Does it add to your argument? Does it do anything other than piss people off? It doesn't. And it's been happening over and over again for the last 40 hours. I don't care if you're scum or town, but that shit is unacceptable, and I'd debate mod-killing you if I was hosting this game. | ||
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And oats, for what it's worth, I'm sorry I called you a jubjub (though you have called me worse this game). I'll do my best to sugar-coat things a bit so hapa can play with me reasonably. You're a college-graduate arguing with a 17-year-old High Schooler from Singapore. Just please keep that in mind before you start something like this again. I'd like to put this behind us. Will do. /thread-police. Now on to some more mafia-related questions... | ||
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Furthermore, your attitude in pushing Oats seemed like you were more interested in provoking him and pissing him off rather than actually calling him scum and pushing his lynch. | ||
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