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GODDAMIT PEOPLE PUT LINKS TO GAMES IN PROFILES
Anyways, links to Xfire's shit:
MTg2:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088&user=Crossfire99
Themed:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397553&user=Crossfire99
WLIIA:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378652&user=Crossfire99
This game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738&user=Crossfire99
Thoughts:
As scum he is very "try-hard" and tries to blend in a lot, posting bullshit reads, etc.
I don't see that this game. Xfire doesn't try to blend in at all this game, and I'd say if he's scum his "insta-vote" on solstice would put some unnecessary pressure on him, he maybe would have tried faking some contributions before that point
I'm worried about him being 3rd party. He has done 0 scumhunting.
I'm not being figuratively here either, but literal, he has literally not tried hunting for scum at all (barring that "let's lynch solstice because of this 1 post" stuff).
He spent all D1 talking about sk8's role (and how town sk8 is), then doing the insta-weird votes on sosltice+austin.
On N1 he doesn't do shit, and this D2 he spends most of his time arguing his town read on Zepphird and little else basically
Like...reading back older games it's unlike his scum meta....but there's a line for what I'm willing to use that to overlook his lack of scumhunting
I'm not comfortable with 3P shit though, so I'll leave Xfire alone (if one of you guys is super 3P-hunting master then be my guest).
Gonna read austin now
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Also, for instance there's quite a difference in his town games and this one (he actually scumhunts in his town games, I'm talking about Xfire), and that worries me
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So, how about I use that gun now?
Like, I'll wait before EVERYBODY posts first (including Xfire and sk8, MOST IMPORTANTLY those guys)
It WILL have to shoot someone, and because of what I said earlier it has to be this D2, so why not do it sooner than later? It doesn't make a difference at all and we get more time to discuss stuff that happened with it.
If any of you had an action on D1/N2 I would start talking and posting now because this may be your last chance, so I'm giving you some time (couple of hours most likely)
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Okay, I read austin's previous games (scum+town) and they have nothing in common with this one so I'll just ignore them
Hey austin, remember these posts?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=33#652
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=56#1107
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=59#1180
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=61#1218
You FoS Zepphird, you FoS Xfire, you FoS Kurumi, then you defend your FoS of Xfire again.
+ Show Spoiler +Also those posts are FUCKING WEIRD AS HELL WTF AUSTIN?
Are you on drugs?
You go from one of them to the other without giving a shit, you 100% ignore them afterwards, ALL THREE OF THEM
Also this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=74#1464
Shitty case (even if it's right that kita was hidding info about Tardis).
Kita doesn't want vigs shooting unknowns therefore he's scum.
Foolishness would be proud austin.
You just hop from "weird illegible case" on one guy to the other, you just CANT BE TOWN dude, this feels like a sick joke
On June 22 2013 07:32 austinmcc wrote:
Or maybe I DO have that power and you're immune to it.
My read on Zephirdd is that he managed to win PTP3 for his team by being a jerky mafia face. I don't like that, but tbh I don't remember him doing anything super duper mafia-y. Gonna be trying to get info out of him early, because he was able to blend in late game once everyone was lazified and didn't care.
After your "case" on Zepphird, I made sure to CTRL+F him in the rest of your posts.
You never mention any opinion on him again, you just use him as an object for your cases on Kurumi/Xfire etc.
Like hell am I supposed to believe the bolded bit when you dont' give a flying fuck about that yourself? You just lied there to gain eazy town cred in early game then? It sure looks like it.
(Hint: Zepphird is "blending in" right now, and he was in all game long until MZ flipped and "confirmed" him, what were you doing then? What do you think of Zeph now? I dunno because since you made a CASE on him where you FOSED AND VOTED HIM you never talked about him again)
Also:
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS
JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.
On June 25 2013 23:59 austinmcc wrote:
Hey duders, stop lynching me. Gonzaw's onto something here:.
On June 26 2013 00:13 austinmcc wrote:
As for me, again, stop lynching me. Go lynch someone else.
This is annoying as fuck austin.
Also hey austin, how about you stop talking about setup shit and discuss whether kita's post/claim etc has any effect on your case on him or not, if you want to lynch him or not, etc?
+ Show Spoiler +Hell I think the most likely explanation is that you are on drugs and having lapses in your memory or some shit I just can't comprehend your play this game
If this is true then please call a friend, a family member, and ask for help. You don't even have to post in TL, just say tell us you are busy and secretly PM deconduo about it so he replaces you
No hard feelings bro, hope you get better
I want to vote you, but I'll have to wait for kita to arrive with his PTP claim and his "2nd half", and I'm gonna read Kurumi now (and maybe geript).
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Meh I can change votes anyway
##Vote: austin
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On June 26 2013 05:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
something to keep in mind:
Acro wasn't super townie (at least not to me lel) and had a meh role, so he was probably shot for his reads, which were austin, snb and MZ.
Just puttin that one out there.
Well, Acro was onto "Xatalos" before backing down, so if Xata is scum it'd make sense to off him (Damn it Xatalos GIVE ME THE GAMES, at least tell me the names of your previous games so I can search them myself goddamit  )
He was pretty townie.
Scum most likely pussied out of killing me so Acro is most likely the 2nd choice.
Unless sk8 is scum and said "let's keep gonzaw alive because he has the shittiest role in existence and won't be able to do anything to us mwahahaha!"
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Yeah him wanting to lynch MZ on D2 is probably the main reason. Dunno so much about austin/snb lots of people wanted to kill those
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Yeah geript...I don't understand what that does
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Actually, let's assume this:
Scum acted on N1 almost guarantee-dly, I'd say all 3-4 of them (barring dead MZ here).
Did most scum act on D1? (i.e Kurumi/sk8/austin?)
If so, then adding those D1 guys to N1 maybe gives us a higher chance to kill scum
If not, then I should use D2 as a shot. Why? Because there will be a lesser pool of players (assuming sk8/Kurumi/etc didn't act on N1 either) to choose from, and since scum that acted on N1 is constant, that means a higher chance to kill scum (higher chance to kill BC too though)
But...I have no idea how the chances work. If a guy acts both on D1 and N1 is the chances of him dying doubled? Or not?
Is D1 and N1 chosen first like with 50/50 chance, THEN a guy that made an action in the chosen cycle dies?
Or are everybody that made an action in both D1/N1 put in a "bag" and chosen randomly from there?
Depending on how that works how I may choose to use the gun, so I'm asking deconduo.
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On June 26 2013 05:46 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:36 gonzaw wrote:On June 26 2013 05:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
something to keep in mind:
Acro wasn't super townie (at least not to me lel) and had a meh role, so he was probably shot for his reads, which were austin, snb and MZ.
Just puttin that one out there. Well, Acro was onto "Xatalos" before backing down, so if Xata is scum it'd make sense to off him (Damn it Xatalos GIVE ME THE GAMES, at least tell me the names of your previous games so I can search them myself goddamit ) He was pretty townie. Scum most likely pussied out of killing me so Acro is most likely the 2nd choice. Unless sk8 is scum and said "let's keep gonzaw alive because he has the shittiest role in existence and won't be able to do anything to us mwahahaha!" You could browse through Crossfire99's games but not mine? I'm still typing from my phone and it's not that easy to edit links and such. My first game was Game of Thrones Mafia, then I played a couple of Newbie Mini games... But you should see that from my profile.
???
Here's what happens when I go to your profile:
"No public profile for this user."
Also I'm looking at geript now and will look at Kurumi later.
After that and looking at you I'll just assume my work here is done because fuck I forgot how exhausting/boring this is >_>
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:30 gonzaw wrote:
Also hey austin, how about you stop talking about setup shit and discuss whether kita's post/claim etc has any effect on your case on him or not, if you want to lynch him or not, etc?
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I want to vote you, but I'll have to wait for kita to arrive with his PTP claim and his "2nd half", and I'm gonna read Kurumi now (and maybe geript). Knowing that he didn't know he was a vet makes him look slightly better. Didn't understand him not revealing that. But his response to pressure today doesn't ring true to me. He had the big posts during the night with the pictures, GIMME THE TARDIS GIMME GIMME. And apparently he got it. But he didn't claim at that point, the point at which, according to him, he became a pure survivor (having satisfied the other bit of his win-con). He waits, because: Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 02:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Wasn't going to claim until N2 to inform the mafia team not to night hit me, but then I got a bit too trolly so I figured I'd be better off claiming now. (1) kita is super worried about NKs, despite their being players who look far more townie / are doing more pro-town stuff with their activity. He's been around a long time, but so have other players this game, so it's not a case of him just getting popped for being veteran-y (2) kita was going to wait and claim N2 because ... he didn't want to be NKed. He could have claimed immediately if that's his only concern. Again, according to him, once he got the TARDIS, all he does is try to survive. No reason to wait 48 hours before saying "Oh hey guys, I'm a survivor, mafia please don't kill me." (3) I still actually really dislike the not vigging snb comments. They don't jive AT ALL with what I understand to be conventional wisdom held by respected players. They read as an attempt to cover snb, which doesn't fit with kita being a lone survivor. This is important. Kita has said he's a survivor, 3P, all he has to do is survive. He's got NO REASON to not want snb shot in that position. Hey hey, again, important. Kita as 3P survivor has no reason to care whether or not snb gets shot. No matter who is vigged, kita is 1 person closer to fulfilling his wincon. But he picks a fight over that, like, seriously responds to your comments. His response there is no a 3P survivor response. It's the response of someone concerned with what happens to other players. He's not a survivor. He didn't claim the moment he could have, for a bad reason. He expressed interest in things that a survivor wouldn't care about.
Hmm, I'll have to think about some of that stuff.
The vig stuff seems just stupid complaining to me. If he was scum with snb then why would he be so easily "exposed" by going against a random comment from mine? (I never said I had the gun to shoot snb, and well it was obvious I didn't and don't).
+ Show Spoiler +On June 26 2013 05:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:38 geript wrote:
meh I wanna do shit
##Mortal kombat Kita and shit bongo bongo.
This creates a random vote thing from 3 ppl. Whoever has more votes gets killed and stuff. English good. What did you do?
Gonzaw, I forget where the comment was exactly, I think BC wrote it, but kurumi very unlikely for ANY scum. I actually trust him more than you and maybe BC at this point to just be pure town. Kurumi can either make others inventors, or can make other people into roles, and can do so silently. If kurumi makes inventors, he could (1) make a scumbuddy an inventor, because HOLY HELL WHO DOES NOT WANT AN INVENTOR ON THEIR TEAM; (2) make a non-scumbuddy an inventor, because OH MY GOD WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT NOW YOU'VE TOLD A TOWNIE TO MAKE THE MOST OP THING THEY CAN AND YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT. It doesn't even fit from a "Suboptimal use of ability in order to generate fun" standpoint, because HOLY HELL WHAT IS MORE FUN THAN COMING UP WITH A SCUM INVENTION IN YOUR QT. If Kurumi makes people any role, then the same stuff applies. You wouldn't give a non-scumbuddy inventor, you could just give them something crappy. Unless BC is ALSO scum with kurumi (unlikely), then kurumi almost certainly not scum.
You mean Kurumi would make his buddies as inventors, but then when his townie creator asks him "who did you make inventor" he says "huh....ehmm..." and outs himself as scum?
I don't see Kurumi giving BC the inventor role as "SUPER OBVIOUS TOWN" because scum not wanting to be outed could have done so as well.
Granted, it makes sense with his play I guess (he's against sk8 as well as BC, so I guess he thinks BC is town maybe he said this Idunno, so he gives inventor to his town read)
But BC made a super shitty invention so hey, maybe scum Kurumi knew town BC would make an anti-town invention so he gave him the invention? 
Kurumi, here's a hint: Give me the inventor the next time 
Also, you are still acting weird austin.
I kind of want to know what BC has to say about all this shit.
Hey kita, character and role claim plz
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On June 26 2013 05:52 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah geript...I don't understand what that does It's supposed to create a side vote. Like 3 people at random are chosen to take part and they vote for one of us. Whoever gets more votes dies. Except that I'm like undying and shit. BTW Kita, I find it a bit funny that you will die to your own created power.
So it's doublelynch with the 3 guys that have to vote?
Hmm, this will be interesting.
Hey, how about this: Those 3 guys use that "added lynch" on snb (basically a vig shot), and we continue with this lynch as usual?
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Hmm austin, one thing that kind of bothers me is how convinced you are his claim is bogus and he's scum
Town-austin would be coming out with conspiracy theories about every possibility, and determine if he's lying or not, ask him questions, then post a huge post with a theory, etc.
You just seem to instantly figure out kita is fake-claiming as scum and manage to come up with all that shit?
Seems a little bit like confirmation bias, you said "okay, kita is scum let's see what I can write about him if I assume he's scum and fake-claiming".
Like, I thought the Tardis thing was weird, but:
1)If he's scum, would he do some stuff like that? Get the Tardis but keep it and not claiming shit? Or did he plan on fake-claiming survivor as scum all along? If so, wouldn't that hurt his scumteam? Instead of trying to blend in he just fake-claims 3P and hopes town doesn't kill him?
For that Tardis thing to make sense scum kita should have planned fake-claiming 3P since BEFORE N1 ENDED, not just make it a half-assed claim after getting lots of votes (if that was the case, wtf was the Tardis thing about?)
3)If he's scum, then the Tardis thing would be something related to the PTP role he got right? So wouldn't his role creator just claim "hey, Tardis is super powerful and kita didn't claim he had it and bla bla bla"?
4)What about the breadcrumb? I don't remember scum fake-claiming 3P survivor and BREADCRUMBING it on their first post (like, did even iGrok do that shit with the original Balrog claim?
After his claim I started thinking about all this shit to see if his claim is legit or not...why didn't you austin?
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kita, I don't want to repeat myself, PTP role and character name please
You do know you have a chance you die today, right? (maybe a high chance considering lynching confirmed "not town" is the easiest way for any townie to go through the game, and thus confirmed "not town"s are always lynched, ALWAYS (if someone claimed "anti-town" and wasn't lynch at some TL game in the past please refresh my memory)).
Or what? You think town will "wisen up" and instantly listen to you or something?
Give us all the info and shit, don't hide it, it will only make it look like you are scum fake-claiming and you don't want to give town any more info
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On June 26 2013 06:05 geript wrote:
## Challenge Kitaman27 to Mortal Combat.
Wait a minute, wtf is this?
Didn't you say 3 guys would be chosen at random, and those 3 could vote whoever they wanted to lynch? What does "challenging" kita have to do with it?
I may have preferred a snb one, but meh if kita dies off-stage and we can go with the lynch as normal I won't really care.
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Like, it may seem crazy but I kind of believe kita.
He does have breadcrumbs, and well even with all the anti-town shit his play makes more sense as survivor than austin's play as town (or than austin's play as....any alignment basically lol)
But like I said, I wouldn't mind him dying in that side-brawl shit, if we can lynch austin or do something else with the real lynch
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On June 26 2013 06:20 Kurumi wrote:
gonzaw are you silly I already gave you inventor
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ooooOHHHHH
So I get it as D2 ends?
Sweet (just figured that out lol)
Anyways, got confirmation the gun works by throwing everybody in a bag (without doubling chances and shit) and choosing randomly.
Hmm, considering I want to kill austin and our mystery shooter, I think I may choose D1
BC is in both D1 and D2 actions so he doesn't matter (he even has LESS chance to die). I guess sk8 is also there but I don't care at all if he dies, hell might even flip scum or something (considering he's been totally AFK this D2 so far anything's possible)
Not sure about Kurumi but well, he already gave me the inventor role so I don't need him anymore
So yeah, I think I'll shoot soon. I want some other shit happening so I wont' wait too long (before I go to bed today at the very most)
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Also if austin is the one that is randomly chosen to die (hopefully...well I want mystery shooter or unknown scum #3 to die first, but well that's the 3rd best choice), I could shoot soon so we have time to get the lynch on someone else.
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Wait no austin used an action on N1 right, so he's in the "bag" no matter what, right? Meh maybe I should chooos D2 so Kurumi+sk8 aren't in that "bag"...
....DAMN THESE CHOICES, WHY YOU MAKE ME DO THESE HARD DECISIONS BC!!!!!??
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Well austin, kita seems to die soon, so I'll be very happy to see you scumhunt for someone else...
...maybe you'll focus on those 3 guys you FoSed previously and completely forgot about them? Or will you bring a new guy to the table (still completely ignoring those 3 guys)?
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