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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:42 GMT
#1793
There's only 20min left?? I thought it was 1h 20min. It's a good thing I could make it before deadline then. I voted for sk8r also since it seems like the only option atm and he's not that bad of a lynch either (although austin/kita would have been better IMO).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#1796
Wait a minute.... Isn't this 7 votes now? so sk8r is dead? Phew, pretty close. If I just arrived 30min later or someone else was AFK...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:50 GMT
#1800
On June 27 2013 05:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:42 Xatalos wrote:
There's only 20min left?? I thought it was 1h 20min. It's a good thing I could make it before deadline then. I voted for sk8r also since it seems like the only option atm and he's not that bad of a lynch either (although austin/kita would have been better IMO).


No one but me would want to kill kita at this point I think


Haha. Actually I'm 80-90% sure that his claim is genuine. It's just that there's the chance of him being scum after all (and it wouldn't basically be a town loss to lynch him anyway) and he could possibly betray us at LYLO.... Hmm... But since DI and Zephirdd died now, maybe we just have to trust him if we want to win. It feels pretty dumb if it's all resolved based on Kitaman27's decision but so be it guess............. If we can't even afford to lynch him basically. Let's be friends again Kitaman27?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#1802
On June 27 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:46 Xatalos wrote:
Wait a minute.... Isn't this 7 votes now? so sk8r is dead? Phew, pretty close. If I just arrived 30min later or someone else was AFK...

Yeah, no.
I like how you try to take credit though.
10 people means 6 was needed.

No point waiting I guess because I am eenveenceeble, so
Xatalos is scum.
Basically listen to Acro's big case on him but I'll add more beginning later tonight if/when I get the chance.
If Sk8 flips red I'll be even more sure of it but it's not necessarily exclusionary (pre-flip associations are bad)


I just looked at the voting thread and it said 7 votes... How did you arrive at 6 (before that recent update)?

Okay then....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:53 GMT
#1804
Ah nvm forget my previous post.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 20:58 GMT
#1810
On June 27 2013 05:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:30 Xatalos wrote:
Just came back and read through the latest pages fast. The first thing that came to my mind is that please, please don't make random abilities anymore. Dandel Ion (I don't think anyone thought he was scum?) and Zephirdd (almost confirmed as town by Meapak) died because of random chance (not sure why exactly Zephirdd died though) basically....... Not something I want to see in a game of Mafia.

I also got this PM:

You have been asked to participate in a focus group today. Please select one of the following before the end of the day phase:
Vigilante
Medic
Veteran
Roleblocker
Bus Passenger
Thank you for your participation!

Most of my townreads are now dead, but Gonzaw/BC, which should I pick?

Looks like austinmcc and Kurumi are using some kind of power-sharing to gain towncred? I guess that's fine regardless of their alignment, and certainly more townish than sharing them with scum, but neither of them doing (almost) anything outside of that makes me doubt. It could be just an easy way to gain towncred and survive without scumhunting.

Could we also get a votecount please? I'm in the dark about who has how many votes and how much time we have. And how many do we need for lynch? If austinmcc's power-sharing thing makes him worth keeping alive, then so be it, although I think he'd be our best bet for scum lynch. I can't think of any better candidate though and it's getting somewhat desperate with 2 dead suddenly...

Although after considering the chance of Kurumi/austinmcc using their ability to easily gain towncred, I came to the conclusion that the same could be said about sk8r/Crossfire99. In fact they've done less than what Kurumi/austinmcc are apparently doing, meaning something clearly beneficial for town. Could someone credible make a quick summary of what all of these 4 have achieved / are supposedly achieving with their powers in the near future?

Gonzaw's conspiracy theory with me is pretty funny. It makes me feel he's even more townish though, since that paranoid attitude is just so townish. I should read it again though to find possible flaws. But now I'm going to post this and see what all happened in between starting this and finishing it...
Dislikes:

(1) Afaik, we don't know how DI died. Why do you say it was random chance?
(2) Calls me out for not scumhunting, proceedings to say he can't think of a lynch candidate besides me
(3) skater and crossfire referenced, but only with relation to their powers, not anything of substance

Anyone else get bad vibes off this?


1) I read the last pages very fast and I'm pretty confused what happened. DI died to the slot machine and Zephirdd to some other random thing I guess?
2) LOL what? I've noted several times that Kitaman27 would have been fine as well as strongandbig (although he's modkilled soon apparently) and sk8r based on D2, and maybe Crossfire99 if sk8r flips scum.
3) Hard to substantiate my post with like 5-10min to write it. sk8r and Crossfire99 have also done so little that it's hard to remember what they've even done so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#1819
Hmmm I'll just wait for the flip......... Isn't it a bit overdue now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 21:52 GMT
#1842
Wtf....... I didn't believe it was possible that they were both town. This means that one or both of austinmcc/Kitaman27 is at least 99% scum. If Kitaman27 is Survivor then there are 3 more scum and it's almost lost now... Hopefully Kitaman27 is scum though. Now I'll need to think hard about how to use my role... Btw can you who austinmcc promised things confirm that he did those? If yes, then I guess he might be town somehow, although it's hard to believe. Or he could just be scum gaining towncred this way.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 21:56 GMT
#1843
On June 27 2013 06:16 austinmcc wrote:
ugh, gg skater and snb ... i guess?

PM confirms that, barring no other actor, kita bussed himself with DI.

PMs ALSO confirm that TL mafia players are creepy, because I had considered a choose-your-own-adventure power (Gonzaw seems to have made) AND a latvian joke power (also done)

Crossfire, what do you know about booby trapping the TARDIS or draining it of energy?


What's this supposed to mean? How can you know that kita bussed DI? If true however, it means kita is 100% scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 22:49 GMT
#1846
Hmmmmm. This is a really messy game with all these powers. BUT let's see where we are after all these flips:

Town:
Gonzaw (has scumhunted like a madman)
BC (killed a scum)

Possible scum:
Kurumi
austinmcc
Crossfire99
Kitaman27
geript

Not open to lynching Gonzaw or BC - but now I have to think that any of those other 5 could be scum. Too many clear towns have died and too many nulls are left If austinmcc is right about Kitaman27 and his ability benefits town, I'll have to reconsider my scumread on him. geript hasn't really done ANYTHING townish at all so far... Not a bad lynch. But Kitaman27 is for sure better if he indeed lied.

There are apparently no roleblocks (or someone would have claimed so far) so I'm also going to reveal my ability to be used in some good way. It's actually pretty hard to use by myself so maybe this is better. Last night I used Kurumi -> WOS but it was nullified because WOS "died". Not at all sure how I should use it now.

You can target any one player once every night. Your target will receive this PM once the day begins:

You are now being blackmailed. You must vote for [player name] during the following day. If you do not vote according to this instruction, you will die once the voting closes, but your vote will count regardless of its target.

You can use this ability by sending a PM to the host with the following content at any point during a night:

[Player 1] is forced to vote for Player 2]
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 22:49 GMT
#1847
Going to sleep now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 22:54 GMT
#1848
Ah, one more thing. I created the role myself (for Martha Jones and well, I got Martha Jones). Feels weird that several people have got their own roles but... What can you do.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#1914
Huh? Didn't anyone notice my latest post yet? In any case, I decided to send "geript is forced to vote for Kitaman27" for now. It's a shame I can't PM Gonzaw or BC (or DI now that he's alive? or half-alive?) with this, but basically I want to use this power in the optimal way to make hammering the most likely scum easier (so: 2nd most likely -> most likely pretty much). With this majority lynch rule it's impossible to get anyone lynched unless most players agree, so this ability doesn't feel that powerful if I just throw it on my own. So Gonzaw/BC/DI, could you vote for a better alternative if you disagree with my choice? Like maybe austinmcc/Crossfire99/Kurumi in place of geript or something.

I also think that one of you three (Gonzaw/BC/DI) will definitely die tonight, probably BC because you have DT, so you can think of this a "vote from the grave" if you want.. Lol.

So did Kitaman27 actually kill Dandel Ion? I'm still too confused about what happened yesterday.

Also everyone should look at geript, I don't think almost anyone(?) has suspected him as scum so far but his filter is full of sheeping and filler posts (AND nothing townish). I think it's more than worth taking a look at.

Did austinmcc fulfill his promise to use that power?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 07:09 GMT
#1915
On June 27 2013 11:32 gonzaw wrote:
Hmm...Xfire I don't really trust you right now.
Please:
1)Respond to my questions
2)Guys,so what do you think we could "force" Xfire to do, to benefit town the maximum, even if we are not sure about Xfire's alignment (and he could easily be scum)?
Basically, "force" him to do something that helps town, and if he doesn't he's confirmed scum, and we can 100% know whether he did it or not.
I'm thinking about making him RB kita, but if both are scum kita can fake-claim RB and Xfire can use the busdriver/KP/etc on anyone of his choice


Wait Crossfire99 has roleblock? Damn. Maybe I should have used my power in secret after all (in case he's scum).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 07:53 GMT
#1916
Okay I'm starting to get more and more confident that geript is a scum. Then one of Kitaman27 and austinmcc (probably not both considering how D2 votes were divided between them). Then probably Crossfire99. Still not sure about Kurumi but since he's "inventing" I guess he may be town.

So basically: Gonzaw, BC, DI town. Kurumi maybe town. One of austinmcc/Kitaman27 town. That just leaves geript and Crossfire99.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 09:43 GMT
#1918
On June 27 2013 04:50 gonzaw wrote:
Conspiracy Theory Time!



Sk8
Xatalos
Xfire


austin being town (or 3p) in this case.
Sk8 does shit all until deadline and sheeps on the popular vote on a townie (Zepphird or snb). Xatalos goes against solstice
Xfire joins the fight against soltice with a ninja-sheep-vote.
solstice dies to a shot from another 3P maybe (maybe kita lol)
Alternatively, they shoot solstice because their role allows them to somehow, and then they laugh as votes pile onto austin. SK8 and MZ don't vote austin for...some reason? Maybe they were indeed inactive (if the shot was 3P it would make sense, solstice/Zeph is getting misslynched so why the hell bother being at the deadline?)

After that austin mislynch ALMOST goes through, but is 1 vote short (saved by superheroe of the day geript maybe? If austin is town then he surely is lol).

After that, Xatalos goes on full austin-scum tunnel-mode, doesn't really talk much about other people, specially not sk8 and Xfire from what I remember
Xfire does shit all as expected. Sk8 does shit all as expected (but why would they do otherwise? Other than BC nobody really even pressured them enough to do so).

Remember this?:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me.

Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else?
That baffles me.
It seems that you knew he was town all along.


Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)?

Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain?

He defends himself based on the role he has.
I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask.


I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much?

I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch.


Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:54 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me.

Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else?
That baffles me.
It seems that you knew he was town all along.


Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)?

Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain?

He defends himself based on the role he has.
I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask.


I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much?

I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch.


Lol, that's a pretty lackluster reason I must say...... Why would scum want austinmcc dead when he was A) scum or at least B) otherwise harmful to town and a good lynch candidate for D2? It just makes no sense for scum to rush in and vote for austinmcc. And it didn't even go that well, which proves that scum didn't want it. So austinmcc is either scum or scum otherwise want him alive.


Possibly. Except you could use the same argument against Solstice, and Solstice was the original lynch target and flipped a blue. If you follow the votes, players who were on both the Solstice lynch and Austin lynch were
Solstice lynch train - Xatalos, WoS, Zephirdd, kitaman, gonzaw, Crossfire99, geript, Dandel Ion
Austin lynch train - Zephirdd, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, kitaman, Crossfire99, gonzaw, Kurumi

Zephird, Xatalos, Dandel Ion, Kitaman, Xfire were on both the Solstice and the Austin lynch.


Now, why would scum Sk8 not push this idea further and completely forget about it?
Oh...wait, 2 out of 5 are part of his scumteam? I guess it DOES make sense for him to not push it further then.

Then what happens?
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote:
Why'd everybody go quiet?

Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems:

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On June 24 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you.

NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS

JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.

If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.

To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.

Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.


I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good.

Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die.

HUH?

If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw.

Next:
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On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 19:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-

On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.



LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.

If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!!
More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town).

Onwards and upwards!
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 20:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.

Hey Kurumi.
Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles.
Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?

Also I know who wrote my role.
:D


That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again?

We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART!

Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them.

Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.




In closing: lets kill Xatalos



Oh snap!
So what happens next?

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 06:04 deconduo wrote:
Acrofales, Winston Churchill met a grisly end.


Oh.....I wonder why?

Jumpstart to D2:
Xatalos still tunnels austin, is wishy-washy as fuck about kita and sk8, but most importantly sk8 (read that post above in my previous post).
Sk8 does shit...oh wait he NINJA-VOTES THE GUY HE THOUGHT SCUM GANGED UP ON. Seems like town sentiment is against austin, he's getting the "noob town" cred so he's free to do whatever he does
Sk8 then lies about other shit, gives confusing info about Tardis (all game long. Most of it is right, but he purposefully makes it confusing so he can go posts and posts and posts confusing us more and appear active).
He LIES ABOUT MY ROLE BEING NERFED. THE HOST FUCKING CONFIRMED IT (I'll expand on this if I can post my role PM).
Here:
READ THIS SHIT I THINK ITS DAMNING AS FUCK
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On June 25 2013 11:36 gonzaw wrote:
How about straight up stating the role?

If I get lynched a random dude that voted me dies
But here's the best part, each night I can visit someone and he gains the same ability (after I visit him, if he gets lynched a random dude that voted for him dies).

I have no use for it and there is no use in hiding it from scum or whatever because I'll never use it, so let's just get it over with (hopefully obs qt guys have pity on me or something)


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On June 26 2013 12:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
dont be all upset cause the role I wrote for u got nerfed. I could post the original I wrote for you. It was jester veteran lookout but the lookout gives u numbers with alignment instead of names, cuz that would just be OP. and then u can use your second ability to remove the jester ability from people based on the number u received.

i.e.
When activatd
1 visted u, they are MAFIA
2 visted u, they are town

so basically u could confirm players that visitedd u BUT u dont know who visited u and then become jesters. I guess it got nerfed though since apparently u say it blos. I thot it was pretty balanced



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On June 27 2013 03:43 deconduo wrote:
Some roles may have been altered slightly for whatever reasons, but nothing big or significant was changed. Pretty much everyone was given word for word the role PM we received.


Xfire continues not doing shit, even going as far as asking random shit like "oh what's going on I'm confused".

Veredict: Well, It did start as a conspiracy theory but the more I wrote about it the more I convince myself of it lolol
That's most likely confirmation bias either way though, but there's stuff here to really make you think and re-think this lynch.
Also, if Xata/Xfire are scum we can try to understand this on N2 as well.

To be honest, the one LESS likely to be scum of the trio is Xfire. Maybe you can replace him with snb...but I dunno Xfire seems to "fit" more than snb, but snb should die soon so it's not like it matters (if snb flips town put Xfire back into the trio)


austin, you have the tin-foil hat, so you speculate about this shit

This should make good discussion shit.

Also I a skimmed Xata's scum game in GoT and I guess I can see him playing like that here. No thorough reading though.
Have little time to read him properly, will do so after sk8 hopefully dies and after I come back from uni

This is your time to shine Town! Show me what you got!

Please kill sk8! Unless you want a super-gambit and kill Xata now or something (although I haven't really read his filter properly yet to make a precise read on him)


This is mostly based on sk8r flipping scum and austinmcc flipping town -> I'm also scum because of some connections and Crossfire99 as well because he's not doing anything.. But sk8r flipped town and austinmcc is still a question mark so I don't see much value in these speculations. Also how am I playing like in Game of Thrones Mafia...... That's as far from the truth as you can get LOL. My filter was like 3(?) pages there with zero scumhunting. Then look at my filter in this game. But you should rather look at my more recent games.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 09:48 GMT
#1919
On June 27 2013 05:06 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On June 27 2013 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote:
Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot?

He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita?

That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum.

Aren't you the one with the bus driver role?
I was talking about you.

Don't ignore me Xfire. Respond to this.

Oh, yeah I have a bus driver ability, but I have not used it and it can only be used at night. Gonzaw can confirm that.


Didn't notice this before. Can you confirm this Gonzaw?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 11:11 GMT
#1921
On June 27 2013 20:00 gonzaw wrote:
Yes xfire has that ability and alk his abilities can be used only at night....
....at least the ones he has for now

I think he can gain some day abilities tomorrow but i already forgot about them. Ill check them latwr and see if theey are poweeful or not lol


Do you think that Kitaman27 and austinmcc could both be scum or do D2's voting patterns - votes spreading only between austinmcc and Kitaman27 for most of the day - plus austinmcc now gunning for Kitaman27 make one of them town?

Also, could you comment on my power...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 14:46 GMT
#1935
Hahahaha yeah. If Dandel Ion is scum then I'm ready to concede already. There's just no way he's scum or even 3rd party at this point. Compared to Kitaman27... The choice is clear. He is very clearly scum now.

I think I gave Vigilante to BC yesterday (if austinmcc didn't lie) so there's a good chance that Kitaman27 is dead before D3. Of course that won't happen if Crossfire99 bus drives him or something... Still, I'm pondering if I should use it against someone else. Nobody else stands out as equally scummy atm though, and a lot can change during D3, so it's hard to say. I'm going to ask how bus driving affects my ability ASAP. Right now it's geript -> Kitaman27.

WOS, why am I your top scumread suddenly? Because I pushed for you D1? Need I remind you that Zephirdd even shot you half-dead and he was town. You played far too scummy for you to be reasonably town... Same could be said for austinmcc though and apparently he's helping town now, but anyways, it's stupid to go after nulls if there's scummy right in front of you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 14:59 GMT
#1937
Actually since geript tried to kill Kitaman27 I'm switching it to Crossfire99 -> Kitaman27.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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