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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:36 GMT
#2262
On June 29 2013 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On June 29 2013 02:35 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote:
This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata

No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.

Why?

So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.

We should rather kill scum than a survivor.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#2276
On June 29 2013 02:45 gonzaw wrote:
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On June 29 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:36 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:35 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote:
This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata

No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.

Why?

So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.

We should rather kill scum than a survivor.

He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter.


If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on
If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game

If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit

We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on.

He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it.


You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place.

This is why I say we need my bus drive tonight to prevent scum from easily planning tonight
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:51 GMT
#2283
On June 29 2013 02:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
A busdriver could be good.
In conjunction with the medic we can protect both BC and gonzo.
Problem is coordinating it is impossible, so it's not all that useful in practice.

i can coordinate with gonzo using my role info lol.

gonzaw should i choose dandel instead of bc for austin's thing tonight so bc can still use his role tonight? i didnt send the pm yet
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:03 GMT
#2292
gonzaw should i choose dandel instead of bc for austin's thing tonight so bc can still use his role tonight? i didnt send the pm yet
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#2295
On June 29 2013 03:05 gonzaw wrote:
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On June 29 2013 03:03 Crossfire99 wrote:
gonzaw should i choose dandel instead of bc for austin's thing tonight so bc can still use his role tonight? i didnt send the pm yet


How should I know?
BC can still use his role even if austin were to give him powers right? So what's the difference?

i didnt realize that lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#2296
i thought he could only do o ne or the other
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:24 GMT
#2304
On June 29 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Didn't Xata claim vote thief? (or forced vote or whatever)

Yeah, but he's never done it. Actually he said he was going to do it last night, but I roleblocked him, which he lied about. Additionally it would make sense as him for scum to say he was going to do it to geript who is his scum buddy because then he will be "forced" to vote for kita because I think xata is lying about his role and can't do what he says he can.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 19:48 GMT
#2350
ok gonzaw, i'll search the kitchen (option 1). I also hadn't thought of that day rolecop idea which would explain a lot.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#2352
sounds good, will do.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2365
On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
IE scum having even more day shots seems incredibly unlikely.

Why? Because meapak had a extra shot, geript has had one, and if we are right, xat has had one.

3 extra kp + 2 nights is 5 kp total by day 3 (if meapak had shot)

Figure 3 mafia and 1 third party or 4 mafia. for an argument

5 kp by day 3 if uninterrupted is going to drop town from 11-6. If we fuck up lynches then its 4 town left vs 3 mafia and 1 3p(or 4 mafia).

By day 3. Is it possible there is 4 mafia and 1 3p ? possibly but it seems unlikely as hell.

Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are.

No i did not have a dayvig i could use day 1.

On June 28 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote:
Heres the deal. Evefy phase as soon as it starts xfire gets a pm from host with a story. At the end of pm host gives xfire a choice between various options
Xfire has all phase to choose an option (if he no chooses same thing is repeated next cycle)
As soon as he pms answer to host, host pms him back with more story and either doesnt do anything else, or gives xfire an item

xfire started with 3 items and can gain more by this method
once xfire gets an item, he could theoretically use it immediately. However some can only be used at night, and others can only be used at day
he got the 1st pm as soon as n1 started

yes some stuff he said i dont really understand but im done with trying to understand how other people use their role. They seem to be shitting things up for the lulz or something


yeah bc good vheck but like maybe you shouldnt have claimed
also i diubt people would give eeach other GF abilities (who would?) so itll most likely be correct

dunno ehy geriot is more likely mafia than say xfire but whatever i can entertain thwt notion IF SOMEONE MAKES A FUCKING CASE

Please....make cases.....try

got no pm from host so il assume my invention iw fine. Hope it doesnt get nerfed

Yeah austin thise shits are neat, but not terribly interesting. The player roster thing is nice ciuld have used it. For another time i guess. Hope i dont disappoint. At worse it wont be 100% useless so if you dont like it shame upon hou


And this post was at the start of Day 2 revealing my 3 items/abilities.

On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote:
Well, I might as well reveal what mine does.
I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following:

1)Protect himself of 1 KP
2)Busdrive 2 dudes
3)RB a dude
I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff

Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/
I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something.

At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea.

deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf?
You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)?

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#2368
On June 29 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are.


No

He could have gotten a super day vig with 2 shots on N3
But he can't know because he already used the Empty Gun

Though it did prove that either xat or I was lying so I think it was a good choice lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:17 GMT
#2372
On June 29 2013 05:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 05:12 gonzaw wrote:
On June 29 2013 04:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Only reason I say this, is im pretty sure the gun of slots raped zeph day 1


Yes, using it at night is a random risk

But you can use it now.
We just need to avoid Xata using his day vig...that's all we need to do to win

Then I dunno who to lynch first, geript kita or Xata.
I'd say Xata in case he doesn't use his day vig and can use it on D4.
We don't know kita's role, so his may be dangerous
Although geript is the only 100% sure scum...

choices choices


how do we know xata has more than 1 day vig shot? how do we know kita didnt day vig sol day 1?

either xata or kita has zeph's role

On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote:
The wording of my role is
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You can eat a person during day time anonymously, but you need a day to enjoy the meal.


I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it).

I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra.

also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:18 GMT
#2374
On June 29 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 05:16 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 29 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote:
On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are.


No

He could have gotten a super day vig with 2 shots on N3
But he can't know because he already used the Empty Gun

Though it did prove that either xat or I was lying so I think it was a good choice lol.


Why didn't he just say he was RBed though?
wtf? I never understood that

probably thought they could ensure a mislynch on me with it and with his dayvig they could win?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#2389
gonzaw i just thought of an idea. what if i choose myself for austin's thingy? It doesn't matter what he gives me as long as i can use both my role and austin's gift in one night. I then can use one of the items plus austin's gift to create awesome combos. What do you think?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#2392
On June 29 2013 05:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 05:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
gonzaw i just thought of an idea. what if i choose myself for austin's thingy? It doesn't matter what he gives me as long as i can use both my role and austin's gift in one night. I then can use one of the items plus austin's gift to create awesome combos. What do you think?


or we just keep having me check people -_-

That's assumed but if you could make me have awesome combos, it would help. I don't care either way, and I can still choose you to get the power. It was just a crazy thought I had.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#2406
On June 29 2013 05:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
why do I just think we lost the game -_-

change your shot then real fast to someone else
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#2411
On June 29 2013 05:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 05:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 29 2013 05:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
why do I just think we lost the game -_-

change your shot then real fast to someone else


can't change, its instantaneous when a host sees it

well we gotta hope for the best. I really hope that you're correct and there are only 3 scum plus 3rd party kita, or that kita is scum.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#2412
On June 29 2013 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
We haven't lost even if he flips 3P.
Just.
Trust.

Ok WoS. Lead us to victory.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:04 GMT
#2425
the anticipation is killing me
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:05 GMT
#2427
imaginatively
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