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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#2059
On June 28 2013 07:19 Crossfire99 wrote:
Also, apparently I wasn't chosen for the vote thingy. That pm was taken back lol.

^
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 23:46 GMT
#2097
Gonzaw, I don't think there IS any geript shit. The PMs rescinded, no voting. Unless he can kill without the voting, he's just shitting up thread.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 23:56 GMT
#2101
Go slow. Lotta bears left.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 00:57 GMT
#2120
I don't know if this interferes with the whistle at all, but once we fall below me + 4 others, I no longer have my ability.

But barring a bunch of vig shots, I've still got juice.

Currently NOBODY is claiming the TARDIS. So either scum has it, or...it being powered down means it didn't change hands? I don't think we can worry too much about it, given that we don't know what was up with the powered down TARDIS OR who has it.

Also, I can't give WOS options. Already tried, didn't work. Only people, not stumps, and I send out 2 roles and 2 people, you guys don't choose both.

My current plan is: you/BC/dandel/Crossfire

you give me you
BC give me BC
dandel give me medic
Crossfire give me vig

That'll give us maximum options again, and ... even if crossfire is mafia he can't really do anything else.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 00:57 GMT
#2121
On June 28 2013 09:53 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 09:49 geript wrote:
I <3 Gonzawga


Why can't scum and town get along like this in all games?
We are all human people! Both town and scum! We can be together!


Say no to Alignism. If you are town or scum you don't deserve to be treated differently.

Occupy Lynch 2013
Is your campaign pro and anti-bear?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 01:02 GMT
#2125
On June 28 2013 09:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 09:57 austinmcc wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:53 gonzaw wrote:
On June 28 2013 09:49 geript wrote:
I <3 Gonzawga


Why can't scum and town get along like this in all games?
We are all human people! Both town and scum! We can be together!


Say no to Alignism. If you are town or scum you don't deserve to be treated differently.

Occupy Lynch 2013
Is your campaign pro and anti-bear?


What all is entailed with your bears yo.
I need to de-bear everyone alive at endgame.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 01:06 GMT
#2131
I sent roles to BC/DI, peeps to Gonzaw/Crossfire.

Up to you how you want to distribute.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 01:09 GMT
#2133
On June 28 2013 10:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
what happens if you visit someone who doesn't have a bear?
Don't think that's an option. Pretty sure everyone (possibly excluding me) has a bear.

If you find ... whatever the most recent other PTP game was, I created a similar bonus win con.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 13:19 GMT
#2194
Xfire -> Sk8
Sk8 -> gonzaw
gonzaw -> Xfire

austin -> austin
BC -> BC
Xatalos -> Xatalos

kitaman -> geript
geript -> WOS
WOS -> Dandel
Dandel -> Zephirdd
Zephirdd -> Meapak_Ziphh

Kurumi -> strongandbig
Acrofales -> s0lstice

Meapak_Ziphh -> ??
strongandbig -> ??
s0lstice -> ??

We don't know what roles MZ, snb, and solstice created. We do not know who made kita, kurumi, or acro's role. So...assuming all claims of x making y's role are true, a dead dude made kita's role. 3 dead makers, 3 unknown roles.


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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 17:38 GMT
#2266
On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote:
Ugh. I don't know what i can do to convince you guys i'm not scum. How about this? Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice. We have all our dayvigs accounted for day 2. We know that I and austin can't be the mason dayvig role, so who has it? xata or kita? One of them is going to kill us again today, because they will have been recharged. P.S austin either lied or mistakenly said that zeph created meapak's role. I'm thinking lied because i believe kita's third party claim because i don't see him knowing about the TARDIS unless he's third party because I know I'm town.

I went back to look because of this. Crossfire is right here, I think. I'm either mistaken or we've got some similar roles running around:

Meapak's role involved masons and a vig shot + Show Spoiler +
You are Rose Tyler!

You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking.

During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing.

At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business.

In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself.

Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power.

You win with The Alliance
. so I just paired it up with the role Zephirdd created, which involved masons and vigs - + Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote:
The wording of my role is
Show nested quote +
You can eat a person during day time anonymously, but you need a day to enjoy the meal.


I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it).

I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra.

also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D

On June 25 2013 06:04 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm pretty sure he is responsible for solstice's death. When I mention that I created a mason role, he mentions that he knows who created his role => I created his role => he the anonymous dayvig

On June 25 2013 06:23 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
I knew it when I saw you fishing early, hence why I asked the thread if its more likely to be from a town or scum perspective.

My role is dorium maldovar, some headless monk thing.
I die but ILL NEVER STOP TALKING

Geript care to confirm?



I was fishing for the mason-dayvig because it seems nobody else made a role that could have shot solstice. Also anyone masoned with this guy is in serious danger today. Simply put, I made the role in a way that you don't want to keep your mason alive, hence it being a dayvig as well.


Meapak didn't have the language Zephirdd used, so it's possible we had TWO people create mason + vigi roles? Either the hosts nerfed Zephir's role, changed it slightly (maybe because MZ was scum and so the name/powers didn't quite line up?), or ... two masons/vigis.

Has anyone been masoned and not spoken up? Besides...whatever it was N1, gonzaw and someone?

We DO know, however, that whether there's only one mason/vigi or two (MZ + Zephir's role recipient), MZ did not kill solstice on D1, as his dayvigi needs to be activated in thread. So we're still short the identity of whoever shot solstice D1, and what they used to do so.

ALL THE REST OF THIS CRAP IS CONFUSING. DOES THE MAGICAL EWOK WHISTLE NOT SOLVE THE GAME AND WORLD HUNGER SIMULTANEOUSLY?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 17:56 GMT
#2287
Checked s0Lstice's D1 filter. Didn't see anything glaring saying "KITA MASONED ME," in either a doctored quote within a quote or first letters or anything else.

At one point he and kita argue in thread, just between the two of them - + Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 04:31 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:19 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:17 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:13 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote:


Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP.

I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this.


So it is your opinion that a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, but will not claim because he wants to see Sk8r burn at the stake? Or that a mafia roleblocker saved Sk9r because he wanted to lynch him rather than vig him?


oh this is fun

...or one of the million lurkers we have has an automatic dayvig shutdown and hasn't been around to say anything about it or isn't caring/is checked out to the point that they don't realize that information would be pertinant right now? Like Xfire?

your focus on this is silly


So you're saying that there was a town dayblocker that happened to be around in time to save Sk8r, but hasn't returned in the thread since? That's a silly explanation.


No, that the block was a passive ability that doesn't require any attention from the player at all to go through. I already outlined a possibility like this is my filter. Are you scum kita? You claimed to have just read me.


Nope, are you omgusing me already just because I've shared a scum read on on you? How does it make sense for a player to own a passive "roleblock all vig shots" and not comment that they blocked the shots. Keep in mind it would require TWO people to remain silence since the role creator would also know of the passive block. I can't see how you can think this is the most likely scenario.


yea dude fix your quote tags

it would not require two people. Is BC lying when he said he got the role he created?

this discussion we are having is really dumb. the point is we can't know what happened with the actions surrounding the shot because we don't do what actions are in the game and what governs them. literally any question you can ask me about this can be answered by that statement. you can't even get to what is 'likely' and what isn't, because you have to deal with 'plausible' first, and we don't know what's plausible until we get concrete evidence on the roles.
(Their quote tags were wonky somewhere in there)

Based on that, seems kind of unlikely that kita was masoned to solstice, as they could have just had that spat in mason chat?


Gonzaw. Does the ewok whistle help narrow down the options? Dunno if BC needs to take his risk now or whatever, but there are a LOT of options here, and if the whistle helps out, we should use it or save some of the speculation for after it gets used.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 17:57 GMT
#2288
On June 29 2013 02:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Plus I want to use my hidden power.

I wanna know

Shhh. All in good time. This hidden power is potentially a game-changer but it requires a very specific set of conditions. Right now it wouldn't do anything.
If you turn into a bear I will be displeased.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 18:18 GMT
#2301
Crossfire, I grant extra powers afaik. Did not intend my one-off gifts to replace someone's normal actions each night.



On June 29 2013 03:07 gonzaw wrote:
Why aren't you guys making cases against each other yet?

Austin, who of Xfire and Xatalos is scum and why
now
Because the thread is full of a LOT of nonsense right now, not even that generated by MS paint.

If we are going to get SOMETHING from the ewok whistle, a vig shot, a check, a magical bunny rabbit, ANYTHING, then most of our speculation should hold off until after that point. We're clogging thread and SOME of it is useful, but some isn't, and it's impossible to get a clear picture of what's useful speculation and what's silliness right now.


Between the two of em? Gut read is xata. Crossfire clearly invented the TARDIS, was up front about that. He clearly has your role, and has apparently been up front about that. As far as I can tell, we DON'T know what xata is, and that's worrisome, because we have unexplained scummy actions - solstice kill, and unexplained RB on BC D1? (That's why I asked earlier whether it was possible Crossfire actually did nothing D/N1 like he said. If his role usage fits that, he's more likely town than Xata. If his role required him to do stuff though, and he could have done the unexplained stuff, he jumps ahead given that there's been a LOT of TARDIS confusion/something going around).

Also, xata fits the picture for...what I expect scum to do in this situation? Crossfire is letting you control his role, and seems to be answering questions asked of him, but not going much BEYOND answering questions and asking for directions about what to do.

Xata did little early, and is sort of starting to get more involved now. Scum has lost 2 people now to DT checks, and within a short span of time had to process/deal with: (1) DI coming back to life (if town); (2) geript getting surprise-checked. Moreover, they don't seem to be able to stop another check tonight, there's an invention floating around, etc. So I'd expect scum to change behavior, start trying to exert a little more will on the game. Xata has partially ramped up activity, has partially started to throw out accusations. If scum didn't expect geript to get checked and caught, they probably need to change game plans today. I see more of a changed game plan from xata than I do from crossfire.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#2345
On June 29 2013 04:31 kitaman27 wrote:
I can't believe I didn't think of this until now.

WoS must be a redwood.
BEST POST NA
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 19:54 GMT
#2353
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. All this planning is bad. What use is winning when there are still bears? Need to hold off a few days.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 20:01 GMT
#2358
On June 29 2013 04:56 gonzaw wrote:
austin, what exact roles can you use in that poll thing?
Can it work as an inventor where you can choose whatever role you want or maybe create one?

Or did you send those polls already?

I sent polls already. I made it so the list of roles is the same each day -
  • Vigi
  • Vet
  • Medic
  • Roleblocker
  • Bus passenger


And then whoever has the actual role gets to list 4 names to be chosen from. Today was... BC/gonzaw/austinmcc/Dandel Ion


I figured it would be OP if you could choose roles, so it's not set up like that. The only corner cases are where both rolepickers choose bus passenger, and then I'd either bus the two people that the peoplepickers pick, or would bus one guy that both peoplepickers picked and a target of my choice.

BC and DI got the role choices
You and crossfire got the people choices
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 20:17 GMT
#2371
I don't think we know who vigged solstice on D1. We don't have town confirmation of xat's role creator, nor of kita's. They are both unknown.

Moreover, IF the role that zephirdd created was the role that killed s0Lstice D1, it can fire again today, based on what he said -
On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote:
The wording of my role is
Show nested quote +
You can eat a person during day time anonymously, but you need a day to enjoy the meal.


I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it).

I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra.

also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D

dayvig, day to recharge
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 20:46 GMT
#2404
#yubjub
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#2407
On June 29 2013 05:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
why do I just think we lost the game -_-

eh? If you mean me, that's a supportive hashtag yubjub, for the whistle.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 28 2013 20:52 GMT
#2413
#uprootandafterthem ?
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