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Also, about Austin, I think he is saying his "win condition" about bears is similar to what Vivax's was in Themed Game mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Jean-Luc Picard, Captain of the Federation Starship Enterprise. Your first order of duty is to select a first officer. Your first officer (unless he is mafia) will protect your life with his own, and will jump in front of any phaser fire aimed at you by hostile entities. Once per game, during a day cycle, you will be able to summon your first officer to your ready room. During that day cycle, the two of you will be able to talk in private, away from the ears of the rest of the crew. Should you somehow die before your first officer, he will become Captain of the Enterprise, and will carry out its mission.
Once you have selected your first officer, your mission is to explore new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations. In order to complete your mission, you may select a player to explore each night. The Enterprise will scan that player, allowing you to determine what sort of civilization that player supports, by revealing any night actions taken by that player the night before you scanned them. Be warned though, the universe is full of strange phenomena. There is a 25% chance each night that you encounter a temporal distortion during your scan, causing your scan to reveal the night actions taken by the player two nights prior.
To aid you in your mission, you will sometimes be called upon to explore a planet's surface with an away team. During any phase that requires selecting a party to take a specific action, your vote will be given 3x the weight of a normal vote, due to your expertise in selecting away teams.
BONUS WIN CONDITION: Hairless Victory. When you look around , you cannot help but notice that every member of Enterprise's crew, even the android, has a glorious head of hair...except yourself. THIS CANNOT STAND. Each night, you must remove the hair of one other player in the game. With the daypost, it will be announced that the player IS NOW BALD. If all players alive at the end of the game are bald, you will achieve a Hairless Victory. You may not reveal your bonus win condition."
You win with the Town!
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I WILL AVENGE YOU GERIPT!
I won't be turned to the host side of the force! NEVER! No matter how much you try!
I'll never join you!
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Wow Xfire, thanks for inventing the role mechanic that will lose us the game -_-
So...hmm.....fuck it I'm going to sleep.
So you mean that, imagine kita has the TARDIS, and hasn't done anything with it.
Now imagine BC day vigs kita.
You say that kita will be protected, or will bus himself with someone else, even when he did NOTHING with the TARDIS yet? Or what?
Can someone pass the TARDIS to someone even if they die that cycle (i.e to lynch)? Can you use the TARDIS even if you have no reason to use it (i.e can you activate the "vet" ability even if nobody shoots you, or activate the bus-drive ability even if it's never executed, etc)?
Hmm, I'll have to think about letting you keep the Rubber Duck. The only other alternative (unless you want shitty Mason Phone I don't even know why I put it there I was in a hurry lol) is you getting pardoner, and that doesn't really help us much (if you NEED to use pardoner so scum doesn't force a lynch on a townie....we already lost).
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On June 28 2013 13:13 gonzaw wrote:
Wow Xfire, thanks for inventing the role mechanic that will lose us the game -_-
So...hmm.....fuck it I'm going to sleep.
So you mean that, imagine kita has the TARDIS, and hasn't done anything with it.
Now imagine BC day vigs kita.
You say that kita will be protected, or will bus himself with someone else, even when he did NOTHING with the TARDIS yet? Or what?
Can someone pass the TARDIS to someone even if they die that cycle (i.e to lynch)? Can you use the TARDIS even if you have no reason to use it (i.e can you activate the "vet" ability even if nobody shoots you, or activate the bus-drive ability even if it's never executed, etc)?
Hmm, I'll have to think about letting you keep the Rubber Duck. The only other alternative (unless you want shitty Mason Phone I don't even know why I put it there I was in a hurry lol) is you getting pardoner, and that doesn't really help us much (if you NEED to use pardoner so scum doesn't force a lynch on a townie....we already lost).
Don't blame me. I wasn't the one who gave it to kita night 1...
Also, initially, I only intended the TARDIS to be used at night, but I wasn't explicit enough apparently, so the hosts said you can use it during the day. I mean in the example I gave them the person used it at night, but whatever.
Kita will only have the option to bus himself or save himself if targeted by the dayvig. Basically, what it seems to be is that the only way that the TARDIS can affect a dayvig is if the person being shot has the TARDIS. So if BC say shoots geript, but kita has the TARDIS, kita cannot use the TARDIS to save geript because the dayvig is instant.
I imagine whoever has the TARDIS can activate it whenever they want for whatever reason they want, so that probably means scum will still have the TARDIS tonight, though if we do lynch whoever has the TARDIS, scum will not be able to pass it to another scum tonight and it will have to be random.
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Okay, I think I get it, so these are the options:
1)Player X has TARDIS, already activated bus and busses player X with player Z. Then WHENEVER player X is shot, player Z dies, and viceversa
2)Player X has TARDIS, already activated vet ability. Then WHENEVER he's shot he's protected
3)Player X has TARDIS, doesn't do anything. He is shot. He instantly is given the choice to either bus himself or use the vet ability. Once he chooses, that action takes place.
Am I correct?
If so .... it's kind of weirdly imbalanced. Like...if the guy CHOOSES to use it, then yes, if anything happens to him later it should protect him (options [1] and [2]). But if he doesn't use it, he shouldn't be given a walkthrough on how to survive that KP/whatever and stuff. If he didn't use the TARDIS yet then fuck him he should have used it before.
I kind of regret not saving Kurumi last night. Seemed so obvious in hindsight, he had the TARDIS and the ability to create inventors. Sadly the TARDIS was a huge WTF to me by that time.
Someone please tell me who made kita's role
Also, maybe we could double check the correctness of the claims, to see if Xata really could have made himself the role, etc. I think figuring out whom solstice made the role to could be important (to determine who may be lying about what, etc).
I just didn't want my invention to die 
Acro's "everybody claim who they made role to" idea he had back in D1 doesn't seem so bad now, does it? 
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Also...meh. Maybe you could have made it so it jumps hands randomly every time.
The "scum gets it, town gets it but it doesn't work, it's randomly given to scum, who then gives it to another scum, then randomly given to a townie but it doesn't work, then randomly given to scum, who then gives it to another scum, ...." cycle seems kind of imbalanced too
Maybe we just had bad luck (really? Out of 10 people only 3 had to get it to fuck us up and they did get it? Assuming 3 scum remaining)
Actually, in a very very very strange turn of events maybe Xata is town and HE got the TARDIS (remember how he hasn't shown up yet this D3 because of something something).
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Fill in the blanks:
Xfire -> Sk8
Sk8 -> gonzaw
gonzaw -> Xfire
austin -> austin
BC -> BC
Xatalos -> Xatalos
kitaman -> geript
geript -> WOS
WOS -> Dandel
Dandel -> Zepphird
Zephirdd -> ??
Kurumi -> ??
Meapak_Ziphh -> ??
strongandbig -> ??
s0lstice -> ??
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Another thing Xfire: What night actions exactly do you need to forfeit to use the Tardis?
Imagine austin gives me the medic/vig shit...can I use that ability plus the Tardis?
I mean, my night action is visiting people to "troll" them or some shit, thus that would be the night action I can't use right?
.....speaking of which....how about I visit BC, Dandel, etc with that ability?
I mean, we, as town will never "misslynch" them. However, if scum have equal numbers or so, CAN force a misslynch on them.
But if that's the case, then if the townie getting misslynched has the "if you get lynched random voter dies", then scum will die 100% (since they force the lynch on super townie).
No townie will ever vote them, but scum will, so we have nothing to lose, right?
Assuming no weird scum-Tardis bus driver obviously (maybe they drive BC with their 4th buddy, and I end up giving that ability to their buddy)
If there are no complaints then tonight I'll use my role for the first time in the game lol
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I don't have the TARDIS. I double-checked my inbox and nothing. I guess it's safe to say: bad luck and scum have it atm.
My scumreads are like this after fast forwarding through the last 10+ pages:
geript 100% (claimed scum)
Kitaman27 95% (clearly playing for scum)
austinmcc 70% (geript "accidentally" didn't hammer him at the end of D1)
Crossfire99 50% (hard to say, but at least appears to be furthering town agenda lately, so could be town)
I took the Blackmailer role idea from SC2 Mafia (custom game), although somewhat altered. It's originally a "Mafia role" only so... But now alignment-neutral.
Brb soonish.
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On June 28 2013 06:00 Crossfire99 wrote:
I roleblocked Xata.
This is a lie btw - unless you don't receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game for some reason. Wth Crossfire99?
Hosts: do you receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game?
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On June 28 2013 13:59 gonzaw wrote:
Another thing Xfire: What night actions exactly do you need to forfeit to use the Tardis?
Imagine austin gives me the medic/vig shit...can I use that ability plus the Tardis?
I mean, my night action is visiting people to "troll" them or some shit, thus that would be the night action I can't use right?
.....speaking of which....how about I visit BC, Dandel, etc with that ability?
I mean, we, as town will never "misslynch" them. However, if scum have equal numbers or so, CAN force a misslynch on them.
But if that's the case, then if the townie getting misslynched has the "if you get lynched random voter dies", then scum will die 100% (since they force the lynch on super townie).
No townie will ever vote them, but scum will, so we have nothing to lose, right?
Assuming no weird scum-Tardis bus driver obviously (maybe they drive BC with their 4th buddy, and I end up giving that ability to their buddy)
If there are no complaints then tonight I'll use my role for the first time in the game lol
Not worth the risk IMO. Scum will probably bus drive geript/Kitaman27 with you/BC/DI, making it reasonably likely (30-50%) that you'll just be protecting one of them. Worst of all, there's no way to know WHO exactly is protected, making it a huge gamble to lynch anyone. And there's no way we'd be lynching you/BC/DI in any case... Unless scum can already brute-force tomorrow and then it'd be over in any case (scum would just lose 1 scum per 2 town at best -> no chance).
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On June 28 2013 08:56 gonzaw wrote:
Actually BC still has a DT check for N3. Austin gives me medic again and I prot BC and we can know almost 99% the remaining scum by next cycle.
SO yes, maybe it's best for BC to just try to kill scum right now...
....although.
BC, you do know your gun can shoot at night as well, right? Please read the fine print. We could lynch one scum now, hope he had the TARDIS, hope the TARDIS gets to a townie, and have BC shoot the remaining one.
This might be the best option atm. If we get lucky we can finish both geript and kita by N3.
By the way, kita can't have the TARDIS since he already had it initially and he's scum
So the TARDIS is in either geript's or remaining scum's hands. We could only really hope geript has it so we lynch him and it's randomly given to someone
(if Kurumi dying made the TARDIS be randomly distributed, then so should geript dying do the same)
I guess this makes sense. If(?) he can shoot at night, we could possibly get a double-kill of geript+Kitaman27 around the D3 lynch deadline (if geript holds the TARDIS and it gets randomized to a townie). Then it'd be 4 vs 1 already, not a bad spot at all.
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If Kitaman27 actually is a Survivor, then I'm 99% certain that both austinmcc and Crossfire99 are scum. If he's just a scum though, only one of austinmcc/Crossfire99 is most likely scum.
Which one then.. Currently leaning more towards austinmcc. Here are some arguments speaking for austinmcc:
1) geript's filter is basically one big lie, since he's scum. With that in mind, there's no reason to believe that he was telling the truth about misreading the thread in a hurry and accidentally voting for sk8r instead of austinmcc. Now, one more vote would have been needed in addition to geript's to lynch austinmcc. BUT I can certainly see him, as the scum he was, making a panic decision and voting for sk8r, not willing to risk that some hero would show up during the last 10mins to get austinmcc lynched.
Normally a no-lynch would be very beneficial for scum, so it *could* also be just setting up a no-lynch to stall town. But if austinmcc was town, geript would also be scared of his potentially imba blue ability and somewhat likely want to kill him regardless. In addition, it would be much safer to just vote for austinmcc and avoid the suspicion raised by doing a stunt like he did there (if austinmcc was town, that is).
Conclusion: everything fits best if geript and austinmcc are scum together, but it's possible, although less likely, that geript merely wanted a no-lynch anyway (or he's telling the truth about his colossal failure, which I seriously doubt at this point).
2) austinmcc has played very differently compared to his townie playstyle. When I last played with him, he was a respected "leader" scumhunter, much like Gonzaw currently. This game he has mostly posted filler and setup speculation - very easy and non-draining topics for scum.
3) If geript and Kitaman27 are both scum, the scumteam would probably want one of them to remain as a "hidden scum". This fits with austinmcc being apparently very helpful, buddying and more active/townish lately.
4) Earlier cases and separate arguments by myself and others against austinmcc (see earlier posts).
5) I think I'm going to make a more exhaustive and "actual" case against austinmcc when I have more time and I get back to my computer.
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Xfire -> Sk8
Sk8 -> gonzaw
gonzaw -> Xfire
austin -> austin
BC -> BC
Xatalos -> Xatalos
kitaman -> geript
geript -> WOS
WOS -> Dandel
Dandel -> Zephirdd
Zephirdd -> Meapak_Ziphh
Kurumi -> strongandbig
Acrofales -> s0lstice
Meapak_Ziphh -> ??
strongandbig -> ??
s0lstice -> ??
We don't know what roles MZ, snb, and solstice created. We do not know who made kita, kurumi, or acro's role. So...assuming all claims of x making y's role are true, a dead dude made kita's role. 3 dead makers, 3 unknown roles.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I'm pretty sure deconduo had to have created my role because he is a cruel, cruel individual.
On June 22 2013 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 05:10 deconduo wrote:
We're balancing the roles right now, roles will go out and day will start once we're done. By which he means: We're busy randomly assigning a Batman and Joker role which can't possible be real to mess with you guys 
My role was based on the TARDIS, which nobody else could have possibly known about. The fact that kurumi received a message that I had drained the TARDIS once I reached part of my win condition essentially confirms that I'm third party, unless you think the town flip is lying or something.
On June 04 2013 06:37 deconduo wrote:
?????
You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition.
The OP even confirms that the third party role in this game is a survivor, but continue spewing your nonsense about me being mafia, even though Meapak, geript, and likely the remaining mafia members all were trying to get my lynched the first two cycles of the game.
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Votes:
kitaman27 (0) - Dandel Ion
geript (6) - Dandel Ion, Crossfire99, CloodyB0bbler, gonzaw, Xatalos, kitaman27
Bubbas not voting: gonzaw, austinmcc
geript is going to die!
Tell me if I missed anyone. Only votes in the voting thread count!
CUNTDOWN:
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On June 28 2013 22:25 kitaman27 wrote:I'm pretty sure deconduo had to have created my role because he is a cruel, cruel individual. Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:On June 22 2013 05:10 deconduo wrote:
We're balancing the roles right now, roles will go out and day will start once we're done. By which he means: We're busy randomly assigning a Batman and Joker role which can't possible be real to mess with you guys My role was based on the TARDIS, which nobody else could have possibly known about. The fact that kurumi received a message that I had drained the TARDIS once I reached part of my win condition essentially confirms that I'm third party, unless you think the town flip is lying or something. Show nested quote +On June 04 2013 06:37 deconduo wrote:
?????
You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition. The OP even confirms that the third party role in this game is a survivor, but continue spewing your nonsense about me being mafia, even though Meapak, geript, and likely the remaining mafia members all were trying to get my lynched the first two cycles of the game.
Well good thing you decided to play for scum after they allegedly tried to kill you.
makes sense.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
If only I hadn't left my cotton candy bubblegum at the scene of the crime. Allegedly.
I'm not playing for scum. Me getting lynched means scum wins and I lose. Suppose I had shot someone like austin. Then town has an extra lynch to spare and suddenly it's fine to kill off the survivor. As you said yourself, "gotta kill me before lylo". Well now killing me before lylo is no longer an option.
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